4 minutes ago, bisright1 said:

Well let's see. I can't see how a new manager, especially the ones touted, take this team into the top 4 next year. I can see how we would go backwards. 

We already have an owner who doesn't show up and a ground falling apart. No reason we should be a big club when we can't keep a world class manager. 

What? The fans turned on him extremely quickly, it's clear we needed time and there was no indication we would give him that. 

Why do fans need their bellys rubbed by the manager. Grow up. 

He has left because the fans don't want him here and because the owners have reacted by not backing him. He should have been offered a big contract pay rise the day we got into the top 4 by beating Watford. 

Pay rise after a year for hobbling to top 4? Thats a crazy suggestions.

And he doesn't need to rub any bellies but he would have been wise to realize the fans pay his salary and like to be involved and get a relationship with the manager.

5 minutes ago, EdinburghBlue said:

Alright Mystic Meg. No one knows what will happen next season, that’s just a very doom and gloom view to take on how we will do next season. We were 10th under one of the best managers in the world? Things don’t always work out how they should on paper. For any of us know, Lampard for example could win us the league in his first season.

 

The bold;

talk about melodramatic, the ground is not falling apart, Jesus. 

Abramovich reasons for absence have been well documented on this site and many news sources. He was at the final and looked over the moon as always and as invested in chelsea as he has been in the past.

Lampard won't win the league with us. 

The ground is sh*te. It's tired. Roman isn't investing, because it's not the right time. 

Let's see what happens. But I think our fans take for granted that we win trophies. And when we suddenly stop doing that, they'll blame anything but this moment. And this will be the moment.

5 minutes ago, EdinburghBlue said:

Alright Mystic Meg. No one knows what will happen next season, that’s just a very doom and gloom view to take on how we will do next season. We were 10th under one of the best managers in the world? Things don’t always work out how they should on paper. For any of us know, Lampard for example could win us the league in his first season.

 

The bold;

talk about melodramatic, the ground is not falling apart, Jesus. 

Abramovich reasons for absence have been well documented on this site and many news sources. He was at the final and looked over the moon as always and as invested in chelsea as he has been in the past.

Lampard won't win the league with us. 

The ground is sh*te. It's tired. Roman isn't investing, because it's not the right time. 

Let's see what happens. But I think our fans take for granted that we win trophies. And when we suddenly stop doing that, they'll blame anything but this moment. And this will be the moment.

I'm going to be pretty disappointed if he leaves. We have awful management, a team that he didn't get to build, and he still have us the EL, a final, and third place in a tough league. Not much more one can do, particularly given the circumstance (i.e. short preseason, not his players). I was hoping he would be our long-term manager until Lampard was ready, but I guess I shouldn't hope for such things as a Chelsea fan. 

Good luck to him if he leaves, he will have a long lasting effect at Juve, building his squad, implementing his style, and he'll be there for a while.

2 hours ago, Sindre said:

I don't know anyone that hates him. I wish him all the best at Juventus if he does go there. Although i am not convinced he'll do great there.

But assuming this is true, the man is clearly leaving on his own accord after less than a year at the club. In that case you could ask questions about his commitment in the first place and to be completely honest i think he relatively quickly found out that he likes thing better in Italy and that he's a better manager there.

And much of his downfall was that he never lifted as much as a finger to endear and build himself a relationship with the fans. And that started from long part of the fanbase turned on him and it lasted to the end. Whatever one think there is one think there is no doubt about and that is that we like managers that get involved with the fans, celebrate with them, acknowledge them and make them feel part of everything (Like Conte, Mourinho, Ancelotti etc)
 

Your profile picture is literally Warnock giving Sarri the finger. You’ve hated him for months and we’ve all watched you slate his every move. He’s been booed at the bridge and had to listen to “f**k sarriball” when the team hasn’t even been playing it. Absolutely laughable from a large section of our fans and the club. 

13 minutes ago, bisright1 said:

The worst most destructive thing to happen to Chelsea since Roman took over and it will be the fans fault. 

Mark my words, losing Sarri at this time will mean we are sacrificing our status as a big club.

Enjoy the champions League next year. We are going to fade over the next 5 years and won't experience it again for a while. 

f**king stupid idiots still thinking we are going to get Allegri in, or sarris football wasnt good enough for Chelsea. 

Not sure how I can face next season. 

I disagree

Define big club. Yes we are successful in winning trophies, but a big club, on teh european stage,  i'm not so sure anymore.

I have said all the way along that i thought he wanted a route out, that he has been frustrated throughout the season simply because during the hard slog of a PL campaign his brand of football with the players we have cannot be implemented, and i think deep down he has known that this is a step too far. We haven't seen Sarriball. The football we have endured for most of the season has been turgid and we have stumbled our way through to a level of success, by grinding out results. Don't get me wrong I'm as happy as anyone else with where we ended up, but this journey has been as ugly as hell for me, and personally, i want to enjoy the journey. The style, the football is more inportant to me than the trophies. There are so few trophies for so many clubs, the entertainment aspect has to surely play a major factor. If its just about winning then lets just flip a coin.

That saisd, i don't want him to leave. I want him to deliver or show the devloping signs of delivering the brand of football he has been renowned for. If he can't do that then i personally have no problem for him to leave if we can get somebody to deliver this style of football. Its teh high intensity, high tempo, short sharp passing football i want us to be known for.

If he is to be replaced I certainly don't belive that it is Allegri. Much as i love all things Italian i don't get the clubs recent obsession when the italian league and its players are not physically fast enough or powerful enough to match much of our league. There just isn't that same level of intensity, which is why the sarriball of Napoli looks so effective in a more spacious, slower paced league.

Conversely i am fearful about us appointing Frank now as he is surely not ready yet for this level and i would hate for his reputation to get tarnished. To me it looks like more fan appesement which again displays weakness form our board. Since the Jose decline i have felt that the club have spent too long gauging the mood of the fanbase and then making appointments to pander to the fickle fans needs. RA may have been acussed of being trigger happy but at least he is ballsy enough to make his decisions and stick by them, even if we end up being saddled with the likes of Sheva!

I long for the club being run from RA's yacht again and for truly ground breaking news stories coming out about us rather than this current penchant of the media to find every bit of sensationalist bollox to report in order to undermine us.

Roman, please stand up and grab your club by the horns again. We need you back and we need you visible.

2 hours ago, Spiller86 said:

Plenty of good managers who we wouldn't need to break contract for. Allegri top of that list.

If we wanted to continue our current approach Ten Hag would be the person to steal. Frank needs some more time. He'll manage us eventually but I'd hate to see him take the job too soon and become Solskjaer.

For sure there are some good ones available.  What I meant was the negotiations for Sarri’s buyout could drag out, that’s assuming we don’t let him go for free.

My Italian sources (bloke next door) says Sarri is staying forever. 

4 minutes ago, rtwelch said:

Your profile picture is literally Warnock giving Sarri the finger. You’ve hated him for months and we’ve all watched you slate his every move. He’s been booed at the bridge and had to listen to “f**k sarriball” when the team hasn’t even been playing it. Absolutely laughable from a large section of our fans and the club. 

It's a funny picture of a grumpy old man losing it. Even though he's not giving Sarri the finger.

And in terms of Sarri i have made myself clear and still do. And in the end he is leaving the club on his own accord after less then a year so he wasn't much of a man to build us something for the long-term was he? 

3 hours ago, Sindre said:

And much of his downfall was that he never lifted as much as a finger to endear and build himself a relationship with the fans. And that started from long part of the fanbase turned on him and it lasted to the end. Whatever one think there is one think there is no doubt about and that is that we like managers that get involved with the fans, celebrate with them, acknowledge them and make them feel part of everything (Like Conte, Mourinho, Ancelotti etc)

 

That may have washed If they didn't turn on Jorginho in a similar way, a man who tried so hard to connect with the fans that he put his mum in the crowd with us.

I don't have a problem with anyone wanting him out, it's the way some went about it that irks me and I suspect Sarri himself aswell.

3 better teams in the league. All of them with a long term manager who didn't set the world on fire when they joined. 

We hire one of those managers. He starts okay, has a dip in the middle and finishes great. 

What do we do? 

Force ours out the door and replace him with someone who got derby to 6th in the championship. 

20 minutes ago, bisright1 said:

Well let's see. I can't see how a new manager, especially the ones touted, take this team into the top 4 next year. I can see how we would go backwards. 

We don’t even know who, if anyone, the new manager would be. So you can’t claim to know that their capabilities.

22 minutes ago, bisright1 said:

We already have an owner who doesn't show up 

Could have sworn he was at the cup final celebrating our victory.

23 minutes ago, bisright1 said:

a ground falling apart. 

LOL

24 minutes ago, bisright1 said:

No reason we should be a big club 

Nah, I mean it’s not like we’ve been the most successful club in England in the last two decades or anything. Three trophies in the last three season too.

26 minutes ago, bisright1 said:

we can't keep a world class manager. 

One trophy won does not a “world class” manager make.

Also, if we didn’t want him to leave, he wouldn’t. If he’s going it’s because the club don’t care if he does.

2 hours ago, big blue said:

Would allegri want this job though? 

Best player about to be sold.

Transfer ban.

Unforgiving fanbase and owner. 

Ten Hag could possibly be an option since his ajax team will probably be ripped apart. 

Lampard would definitely take it, as would any championship or lower premier league manager. 

We've been linked with Vieira today which seems extremely unlikely.

I can see us ending up with Blanc who seems pretty desperate to get back into work.

Blanc would be okay. He integrates youth and did better than he gets credit for at PSG. 

He also speaks English and plays decent football. Having a French speaker doesn't hurt either given  how many good young players are coming out of there at the moment.

2 hours ago, Spiller86 said:

Italian media seem to be going hard on the story.

He's done well but in some ways his style isn't the best fit for our squad or England. I'm happy for him to stay but wish him well if he chose to return to Italian football.

Bullsh*t. Klopp and Guardiola made it work who are similar to Sarri.

2 hours ago, big blue said:

Would allegri want this job though? 

Best player about to be sold.

Transfer ban.

Unforgiving fanbase and owner. 

Ten Hag could possibly be an option since his ajax team will probably be ripped apart. 

Lampard would definitely take it, as would any championship or lower premier league manager. 

We've been linked with Vieira today which seems extremely unlikely.

I can see us ending up with Blanc who seems pretty desperate to get back into work.

Blanc would be okay. He integrates youth and did better than he gets credit for at PSG. 

He also speaks English and plays decent football. Having a French speaker doesn't hurt either given  how many good young players are coming out of there at the moment.

27 minutes ago, bisright1 said:

Well let's see. I can't see how a new manager, especially the ones touted, take this team into the top 4 next year. I can see how we would go backwards. 

We already have an owner who doesn't show up and a ground falling apart. No reason we should be a big club when we can't keep a world class manager. 

What? The fans turned on him extremely quickly, it's clear we needed time and there was no indication we would give him that. 

Why do fans need their bellys rubbed by the manager. Grow up. 

He has left because the fans don't want him here and because the owners have reacted by not backing him. He should have been offered a big contract pay rise the day we got into the top 4 by beating Watford. 

Sorry for disagreeing with you again but i don't get this post.

You are right that the fans don't need their bellys rubbed but conversely stating that the manager wants to leave because a few hairy arsed fans have called out unflattering chants is also a bit melodramatic. If he leaves it will have nothing to do with fans at all. Anybody that knows anybody in the professional game will tell you that all professionals know that the fans are ar$eholes. None of us can be trusted unless you end up a legend like JT or Frank Lampard, becuase we're all two faced. Do we truly believe that Fernando Torres loves the Chelsea fans.

Also define the owners backing him. If its transfer funds there isn't a lot they can do. We no longer have the financial clout of the big boys, we don't have the income streams to compete within FFP regulations, we are looking at a two window transfer embargo, and finally there is no guarantee that the best players will be available and want to join us anyway.

Finally, and i know i'm an old f@rt but ground falling apart...please. For those of us that were kicking our heels in a crumbling Shed or sat on the frozen benches looking out across the open frozen tundra of the un-roofed open banking of the away end. Falling apart? SB is a palace.

If I was a manager now looking to be successful and build a career Chelsea would be the last club of the big club's I would be looking to go to.

If I was a manager looking for a big payday after a year in the job Chelsea would be the first club on the list.

There is a reason why certain managers will never touch us now.

9 minutes ago, Brutos said:

If I was a manager now looking to be successful and build a career Chelsea would be the last club of the big club's I would be looking to go to.
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If I was a manager looking for a big payday after a year in the job Chelsea would be the first club on the list.

There is a reason why certain managers will never touch us now.

People have said this since Raineri and Jose first time around.

Yet we have had the likes of Ancelotti, Jose again, Conte, Sarri...We play in the best league in the world, we have a wealthy owner and are always in the hunt to win trophies. We are attractive to all kinds of managers and history has proven this despite the rate we go through them.

If a manager wasn’t to win some silverware we are a safe bet or have been more so than just about every other team in the league in the past decade. 

Sarri has said it a number of times now that he loves the league and he wants to stay. I’ve heard it with my own ears from the horses mouth and so must all of you lot.

Instead of believing the above, you’d rather believe what you hear from a bunch of 3rd party 2-bob journalists who’s main business is to sell papers or increase traffic to their websites.

I can believe that Juve are interested in Sarri, why wouldn’t they be he’s had a great few years. This is where the rumours have come from. 

If our board show Sarri a bit of love, congratulate him on the season and tell him that they want him to stay, there is no way that Sarri will be leaving this summer. 

Di Marzio and Skysports haven’t got a clue. Pure guesswork.

https://weaintgotnohistory.sbnation.com/chelsea-fc-transfer-rumours-news/2019/5/31/18647968/sarri-prefers-juventus-over-chelsea-wants-italy-return-for-family-reasons-too-report

8 minutes ago, axman2526 said:

https://weaintgotnohistory.sbnation.com/chelsea-fc-transfer-rumours-news/2019/5/31/18647968/sarri-prefers-juventus-over-chelsea-wants-italy-return-for-family-reasons-too-report

There's conflicting articles, I saw one saying Sarri is begging to stay. His last quote is that he believes he deserves to stay at Chelsea so it sounds like he does want to be here next season.

If he does go though I wonder if we'll get a transfer fee? Juve seem very keen on him.

Who's up for Jose part 3? lol

Looking at this thread, Sarri is to good for Chelsea, we don't deserve him. 

 

If he leaves I will be heartbroken because, I have supported the man from day one and continue to support him, but sadly certain elements of the fanbase are so fickle. I seriously can't believe that people actually want Sarri out and replaced with Lampard. The only managerial experience Frank has is one year in the Championship, with quite average results. 

 

There is also the rumor of Allegri. Fans bitched and moaned for years about negative football, well last time I checked Allegri's style is hardly progressive. Also, he has won titles, but Juventus are so dominate, any decent manager could win the Italian League. 

Edited June 1, 20197 yr by kiwi1691

Would prefer Blanc if Sarri is to leave from the names mentioned.

Lamps needs more time and experience.

He probably feels he is on a hiding to nothing next year with the transfer ban and a squad without Eden, the Juve job has opened up and he’s looking for an easy out whilst he can.

Thanks for CL football and the thumping of Arsenal Wednesday night.

I don’t think it’s time for Frank though.

6 hours ago, Lampsy said:

I'm going to be pretty disappointed if he leaves. We have awful management, a team that he didn't get to build, and he still have us the EL, a final, and third place in a tough league. Not much more one can do, particularly given the circumstance (i.e. short preseason, not his players). I was hoping he would be our long-term manager until Lampard was ready, but I guess I shouldn't hope for such things as a Chelsea fan. 

Good luck to him if he leaves, he will have a long lasting effect at Juve, building his squad, implementing his style, and he'll be there for a while.

He won’t be at Juve for a while though.. and Juve are not interested in building a squad/implementing a style. They are desperate to win the CL.