f**king brilliant and I love how the Liverpool media is out to make Klopp not seem arrogant but someone should pull out his transcript after they went out to Athletico this year in the champions league. 

Frank's quite right. For the "team of the century" to win the quadruple, triple, double, one title with record points is actually quite hilarious .... especially considering all the help they've had from VAR and the media ...

Edited July 24, 20205 yr by Sexyfootball

5 minutes ago, Sexyfootball said:

Frank's quite right. For the "team of the century" to win the quadruple, triple, double, one title with record points is actually quite hilarious .... especially considering all the help they've had from VAR and the media ...

Frank totally represented all Chelsea fans at that moment - we all could see it was a flop but the ref caved into the dirty red scousers pressure - I am sure we all shouted "Fuck off" ath that moment

Klopp coming out and saying Frank has a lot to learn only shows more arrogance from Jurgen.. he is not even close to what Frank has achieved in the football world.. Jurgen talking to Frank about mentality FFS. - to a player who has scored in champions league finals... FA Cup Finals..

No one pays a 100 Mil for managers.. and as a player frank is the greatest midfield player in the premier league's history..  So the clowns in F***Pool club do need to learn humility..

Just a thought..... 

The lampard bias here is absolutely appalling. No doubt he's a legend and the level of professionalism he brings with him is good to see but let's call a spade a spade.

All I hear is defence sh*t, let's blame it on Rudi, or Christensen or Zouma or no Kepa. It's Kepa, everything is Kepa. Not absolving Kepa from blame, for being a keeper that has delivered way below expectation and in all fairness probably needs reassignment.

But can we refer to the only other team Super Frank has managed, their defence wasn't particularly the best part of the team. The goals they conceded on the counter due to poor transition from attack to defence,  the set pieces concession,...... Let's just say the similarities abound with Chelsea.

Maybe he should look for help in improving that area of his coaching and in the meantime, we should just ease off on the love in as a legend and, analyse him as rationally as we would have other managers or even the last guy before him. 

48 minutes ago, abister1 said:

Just a thought..... 

The lampard bias here is absolutely appalling. No doubt he's a legend and the level of professionalism he brings with him is good to see but let's call a spade a spade.

All I hear is defence sh*t, let's blame it on Rudi, or Christensen or Zouma or no Kepa. It's Kepa, everything is Kepa. Not absolving Kepa from blame, for being a keeper that has delivered way below expectation and in all fairness probably needs reassignment.

But can we refer to the only other team Super Frank has managed, their defence wasn't particularly the best part of the team. The goals they conceded on the counter due to poor transition from attack to defence,  the set pieces concession,...... Let's just say the similarities abound with Chelsea.

Maybe he should look for help in improving that area of his coaching and in the meantime, we should just ease off on the love in as a legend and, analyse him as rationally as we would have other managers or even the last guy before him. 

Lampard gets a longer honeymoon period than other managers have, yes. But perhaps you should read more carefully. Regularly posters have pointed to last season's Derby, have questioned Lampard's defensive tactics and training methods, and have suggested getting in a specialised defensive coach. 

Edited July 25, 20205 yr by Valerie

I do agree that you don’t necessarily need the best players to have a good defence. You can coach and organise them well. Conte and Sarri proved that. 

1 hour ago, abister1 said:

Just a thought..... 

The lampard bias here is absolutely appalling. No doubt he's a legend and the level of professionalism he brings with him is good to see but let's call a spade a spade.

All I hear is defence sh*t, let's blame it on Rudi, or Christensen or Zouma or no Kepa. It's Kepa, everything is Kepa. Not absolving Kepa from blame, for being a keeper that has delivered way below expectation and in all fairness probably needs reassignment.

But can we refer to the only other team Super Frank has managed, their defence wasn't particularly the best part of the team. The goals they conceded on the counter due to poor transition from attack to defence,  the set pieces concession,...... Let's just say the similarities abound with Chelsea.

Maybe he should look for help in improving that area of his coaching and in the meantime, we should just ease off on the love in as a legend and, analyse him as rationally as we would have other managers or even the last guy before him. 

Ah Frank Lampard, the same Frank who took Derby to the championship play off in his first season as manager, the same Derby with Rooney in team who failed miserably to get into play offs this season, Frank with the same Chelsea team as last season minus the best player in the Premiership and no chance of buying any players, this season Frank's Chelsea with a influx of youth have most of the season been in top 4 and with final game on Sunday have it in their own hands to qualify for top 4, are in the FA Cup final and still (only just in the Champions league), and finally the Football, this time last season we were watching that bull sh*t football 'Sari Ball' the biggest load of bullsh*t football I've seen at Chelsea for years. Bias towards Frank? I for one just think things are bloody good at the moment, transfer window open Frank can add his own players. Happy days! 

Finally remember one thing, as Spurs, Arsenal and West Ham sit in there white elephant stadiums, with managers that are either dinosaurs or leave a lot to be desired, and boards they all despise, we aren't in bad place. 'Carefree'

Edited July 25, 20205 yr by chi blue

15 hours ago, robdog said:

Frank totally represented all Chelsea fans at that moment - we all could see it was a flop but the ref caved into the dirty red scousers pressure - I am sure we all shouted "Fuck off" ath that moment

Frank's one of us mate, he's Chelsea through and through and it hurts him as much as us when things don't go our way.

He's used the Mourinho text book perfectly this last week, firstly by rattling OGS and now by having the media talk about his "meltdown" at Anfield instead of the squad before such a crucial match. 

1 hour ago, Argo said:

He's used the Mourinho text book perfectly this last week, firstly by rattling OGS and now by having the media talk about his "meltdown" at Anfield instead of the squad before such a crucial match. 

I think the rant was a rant.... all managers do it blown out of all proportion 

but you’re right he is weighing in very nicely with the big boys,  saying all the right things he is an intelligent man 

7 hours ago, abister1 said:

Just a thought..... 

The lampard bias here is absolutely appalling. No doubt he's a legend and the level of professionalism he brings with him is good to see but let's call a spade a spade.

All I hear is defence sh*t, let's blame it on Rudi, or Christensen or Zouma or no Kepa. It's Kepa, everything is Kepa. Not absolving Kepa from blame, for being a keeper that has delivered way below expectation and in all fairness probably needs reassignment.

But can we refer to the only other team Super Frank has managed, their defence wasn't particularly the best part of the team. The goals they conceded on the counter due to poor transition from attack to defence,  the set pieces concession,...... Let's just say the similarities abound with Chelsea.

Maybe he should look for help in improving that area of his coaching and in the meantime, we should just ease off on the love in as a legend and, analyse him as rationally as we would have other managers or even the last guy before him. 

No shit Sherlock, Super Frank has taken Chelsea to it's glory days as a player & he is attempting to duplicate that feat as The Gaffer

7 hours ago, JM7 said:

I do agree that you don’t necessarily need the best players to have a good defence. You can coach and organise them well. Conte and Sarri proved that. 

The football that Frankie wants the team to play doesn't allow the bad defensive players to hide.

Conte protected them with the whole team and with his amazing tactics that nobody was ready for during his first season. Sarri protected them with much possession and low risk passes but even he didn't really coach them better, we were hammered from time to time.

Lampard is much more direct than Sarri and plays a much more open game than Conte, that comes with a price.

All our rivals bought multiple defenders and Pep for example still wants to buy more after Laporte got injured, we bought Rudiger and Emerson a few seasons back and that's it.

It's pretty fair to admit that we are still searching for a leader, all great teams have a leader in defense and since JT left we haven't filled those huge shoes...

1 hour ago, Gol15 said:

The football that Frankie wants the team to play doesn't allow the bad defensive players to hide.

Conte protected them with the whole team and with his amazing tactics that nobody was ready for during his first season. Sarri protected them with much possession and low risk passes but even he didn't really coach them better, we were hammered from time to time.

Lampard is much more direct than Sarri and plays a much more open game than Conte, that comes with a price.

All our rivals bought multiple defenders and Pep for example still wants to buy more after Laporte got injured, we bought Rudiger and Emerson a few seasons back and that's it.

It's pretty fair to admit that we are still searching for a leader, all great teams have a leader in defense and since JT left we haven't filled those huge shoes...

If you look at the recent past Pool were also very porous.. lets not forge that b4 we signed Kepa and Utd signed HM they held the world record fee for a defender and a GK... Before VVD, Matip and Loveren were equally calamitous as our current lot..  Their LB cost them the Europa cup .. Klopp was not a different coach then to now it took them 5 years to reach here and Klopp had 8-9 windows to do this...

Great Value Signings- Mane, Robertson, Firmino, Fabinho

High Risk Moves Paying off - Salah, VVD, Allison

Lucky breaks - TTA

For me, these two have been the stars of our season. 

I think Frank should not have said so much, if we fail to get CL the press will say this was evidence of the pressure getting to Frank.

I think we will get the CL and the narrative will probably switch to fired up Frank delivers.

As it happens through work I have known 3 German women who I liked and 3 German chaps that I was unsure as to whether they were arrogant or just naturally over confident. 

One thing's for sure Frank will certainly get a hostel reception next time we play at Anfield.

 

 

Our defending record certainly worries me abit, and Lampard seem to haven’t done much about it.

But I’m willing to give him time, once we have a better keeper and hopefully defenders then we’ll have a better idea.  I hope this summer Lampard realises that he needs help in sorting out defence and get a coach in.

No matter whatever happens today I think Frankie has had a good season . Cup final and a possible top 4 under the circumstances we have had this season is a lot more than most of us was expecting.

28 minutes ago, Cone said:

No matter whatever happens today I think Frankie has had a good season . Cup final and a possible top 4 under the circumstances we have had this season is a lot more than most of us was expecting.

Same here. At the start of the season I expected top 6. Fifth would be an improvement on that, but now we can even get 4th and CL. Might as well try, right 

1 hour ago, Valerie said:

Same here. At the start of the season I expected top 6. Fifth would be an improvement on that, but now we can even get 4th and CL. Might as well try, right 

We could get 3rd...

5 minutes ago, Munkworth said:

We could get 3rd...

I didn't realise  Oh alright, let's take 3rd spot then, let's go crazy.

 

 

We've jinxed it now, Munk 

 

Collymore has now come out in favour of Lampard, a little surprising for me yet still interesting on the point he makes

https://www.express.co.uk/sport/football/1314441/Frank-Lampard-Liverpool-Jurgen-Klopp-Chelsea-Premier-League

 

 

15 hours ago, Strider6003 said:

I think Frank should not have said so much, if we fail to get CL the press will say this was evidence of the pressure getting to Frank.

I think we will get the CL and the narrative will probably switch to fired up Frank delivers.

As it happens through work I have known 3 German women who I liked and 3 German chaps that I was unsure as to whether they were arrogant or just naturally over confident. 

One thing's for sure Frank will certainly get a hostel reception next time we play at Anfield.

 

 

High pitched voiced men frothing and dribbling at the mouth, waving their giro's in the air, claiming their innocence  and blaming every other f**ker, you gotta love the scousers!

People talking about Lampards limitations as a defensive coach need to watch Klopps Liverpool during the first couple of seasons, only took him £150m+ to sort that mess out. 

He might have still been in that mess had it not been for VVD choosing Liverpool over others. 

57 minutes ago, Valerie said:

I didn't realise  Oh alright, let's take 3rd spot then, let's go crazy.

 

 

We've jinxed it now, Munk 

 

We're alright, we're alright! My Spotify playlist of 500 or so songs on shuffle just played One Step Beyond. If that's not a sign, I don't know what is.

Phew, panic over. Prepare for another FLM, Frank Lampard Masterclass.