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Chelsea v Ajax (CL) Tue 5th Nov 20:00 GMT

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Crazy game - love Frank's interviews - always feels like he's about to burst out laughing, certainly puts a smile on your face. 

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2 minutes ago, Gol15 said:

Their both players got their second yellow cards, after their whole defense just brutally wanted to stop our attack where they commited 3 hard fouls, and a handball. The 2 second yellow cards in that very situation is not harsh at all, their players blew the advantage they had.

A draw is a fair result, from 1:4 we scored 3 goals and an extra one that was taken away after a handball, that's a fair result, as much as we made our luck they made theirs with our 2 own goals.

Fair comment. Maybe i am bit dissapointed we didn't capitalize on the 2 men advantage, other teams would have smashed us in 20 min if we played 9 men

People that hate us will probably be saying how we bought the ref...I sense it already. Fact is Ajax players made several hard fouls during that attack and had a handboy as well, given the situation the ref reacted very well.

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2 minutes ago, loz said:
6 minutes ago, andy said:
Thought Tammy wasn’t great tonight, he missed a number of chances and his heading was very poor. Great player against the lesser teams but he needs to be putting more of these chances away.  Thought the youngsters in general just needed to be more ruthless. Great game though, decisions both ways I thought, Ajax defiantly came to do a job on us and they got it tactically right in terms of whipping in fast balls into are area we just can’t handle that. But they paid the price for quite a few cynical challenges.  

About right. Abraham was very poor and I thought CHO was awful. Must admit I'm still to get on the CHO bandwagon. I'm not convinced he has the potential others think he does. The flip side is that James once again showed he is ready for the step up.

Harsh on CHO. 

People saying we can't win this tournament and they'd rather we drop into the Europa League. What are you on? We most definitely can win this tournament. We can't win the league but we can win the CL. We've played Liverpool twice this season and both times we were the better team. We just need a little bit of luck. If it's your year it's your year. Ruben Loftus-Cheek will score the winner in the final. I've got money on it.

Just now, BadBlue said:

Fair comment. Maybe i am bit dissapointed we didn't capitalize on the 2 men advantage, other teams would have smashed us in 20 min if we played 9 men

True. Because we would have sat in our box protecting ourselves from the smashes. Fair play to Ten Hag. Goes down to 9 men and then atatcks us. Gets a corner and floods our box leaving 1 on 1 at the back against CHO.

Would we have had the stones to have done this in the same circumstances. I doubt it.

But i'm taking it for what it is, cos against a counter attacking 9 men i reckon Man Utd and Arsenal would have gone on and lost that game tomight.

2 minutes ago, Amputechture said:

I thought the second player to get a second yellow was for dissent, not the handball.

 

Uefa have confirmed it was for handball. Ridiculous booking in my opinion. Criminal in fact. There's nothing he could do. He was literally trying to pull his hand away, but there was no time. If the rules say it was a booking, why wasn't Abraham booked as well, when our goal was disallowed?

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Just now, Davey Baby said:

 

Uefa have confirmed it was for handball. Ridiculous booking in my opinion. Criminal in fact. There's nothing he could do. He was literally trying to pull his hand away, but there was no time. If the rules say it was a booking, why wasn't Abraham booked as well, when our goal was disallowed?

Defending handballs are different to offending handballs.

Just now, Davey Baby said:

 

Uefa have confirmed it was for handball. Ridiculous booking in my opinion. Criminal in fact. There's nothing he could do. He was literally trying to pull his hand away, but there was no time. If the rules say it was a booking, why wasn't Abraham booked as well, when our goal was disallowed?

Isn't it a yellow because he denied a goalscoring chance?

Tammy's handball wasn't given a yellow because he's on our team. If I have that right because it's such a grey area

 
Uefa have confirmed it was for handball. Ridiculous booking in my opinion. Criminal in fact. There's nothing he could do. He was literally trying to pull his hand away, but there was no time. If the rules say it was a booking, why wasn't Abraham booked as well, when our goal was disallowed?
Exactly. It was a farcical decision. We got off the hook big time tonight. Even against 9 men we looked capable of losing it. The youngsters, possibly understandably, had no idea how to take advantage of the tow man advantage and the more experienced players didn't seem able to influence them in the way you might expect.
1 minute ago, Deino said:

Isn't it a yellow because he denied a goalscoring chance?

 

You might be right, I don't know the rules, but I maintain the game's gone mad. That's never a booking in a million years.

4 minutes ago, Davey Baby said:

 

Uefa have confirmed it was for handball. Ridiculous booking in my opinion. Criminal in fact. There's nothing he could do. He was literally trying to pull his hand away, but there was no time. If the rules say it was a booking, why wasn't Abraham booked as well, when our goal was disallowed?

It was a clear handball. The shot was 100% on target, he stopped it with his hand. I don't know what else can be said there...Tammy didn't see the ball, Veltman was fully aware of what he was doing.

Just now, loz said:
5 minutes ago, Davey Baby said:
 
Uefa have confirmed it was for handball. Ridiculous booking in my opinion. Criminal in fact. There's nothing he could do. He was literally trying to pull his hand away, but there was no time. If the rules say it was a booking, why wasn't Abraham booked as well, when our goal was disallowed?

Exactly. It was a farcical decision. We got off the hook big time tonight. Even against 9 men we looked capable of losing it. The youngsters, possibly understandably, had no idea how to take advantage of the tow man advantage and the more experienced players didn't seem able to influence them in the way you might expect.

 

I think that's where Lampard showed his inexperience. Having said that, we had more than enough chances to win it, although they had one or two of their own.

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