Bring back Phil Jones?

 

 

😊

Edited October 25, 20214 yr by Phillip

7 hours ago, BordeauxBlue said:

Give it to Giggseh till end o season. 

He’ll have to have the team sheet smuggled out of Strangeways.

Bailly could work in a 3, so could Lindelof. Tuanzebe is quality but out on loan as is Williams. 

They have the players to get by until January, especially in a 3 at the back system, which would hide some of the deficiencies in their current setup. 

The main issue is the midfield and its porous nature. The front line doesn't help out enough and they end up outnumbered and overrun. That is a tougher fix, because I'm not sure the personnel is there to completely remedy that aspect. 

42 minutes ago, Phillip said:

Bring back Phil Jones?

 

 

😊

He’s busy filming Nutflix Specials…

 

3 hours ago, ForeverCarefree said:

I just don't see Conte taking over a side mid season. 

There's too much work there for him to do and he's too meticulous to want to walk into a side that looks as disjointed as that United side. 

Conte is apparently open for the job so you never know he might just go for it and sign a deal that would get him a nice compesation if he's sacked too fast.

But I think that his style at this point in time wouldn't suit Man United, Conte would need a signing to help him out just like Mourinho brought Zlatan to help his case in the dressing room but once he was gone, the divas turned against Jose so I can see those players not wanting Conte to come at all. I hope that if Conte does come back to the PL that the club he goes to is something sketchy like Newcastle, just for fun.

The good thing is that Zidane isn't looking to take over any team, he wants to manage France after the 2022 WC, he's maybe the ideal manager for Man United that they won't be able to get.

Conte was ready to take the Spurs job had they granted all his wishes, of course he is going to listen to United's offer and I can see him in the dugout in a couple of rounds. He is a great manager, but a good fit for United? I don't think so, but they are too desperate at the moment and need to please their fans by sacking OGS.

Conte will bring some stability, but they will need time to adjust to his style and to be fair they do not have the midfield to play the "Conte way". I mean Pogba and Fernandes are their best midfielders, but do they really work in a three man midfield with Fred/McT as the 3rd one? To me it looks so imbalanced that would even make Conte wonder how the hell is he going to field a decent enough midfield that would also track back too and bring some steel also in the most important area of the pitch.

From Vidal, Marchisio, Pirlo, to Kante, Matic to Brozovic, Barella, Vidal to Fred, Pogba, Fernandes. His midfield was always full of two soldiers plus a creative, but at the same time a workhorse, too, one. No he is left with two donkeys in Fred and McT, an ageing Matic that is no better than the current Obi Mikel that plays in Kuweit and two primadonnas that can't tackle, nor track back to save their lifes. Plus Ronaldo up front who is the worst at pressing and tracking back. Add to that there is no room for Sancho and Greenwood in Conte's setup.

He is a good manager, but he will have a lot of work to do to impose his own style in that incredibly imbalanced squad. I forgot about Wan Bissaka - just the thought of Conte watching his abject crossing and passing and his general attacking play makes me think his hair transplant is going to suffer from the very first training session haha.q

19 minutes ago, petre ispirescu said:

Conte was ready to take the Spurs job had they granted all his wishes, of course he is going to listen to United's offer and I can see him in the dugout in a couple of rounds. He is a great manager, but a good fit for United? I don't think so, but they are too desperate at the moment and need to please their fans by sacking OGS.

Conte will bring some stability, but they will need time to adjust to his style and to be fair they do not have the midfield to play the "Conte way". I mean Pogba and Fernandes are their best midfielders, but do they really work in a three man midfield with Fred/McT as the 3rd one? To me it looks so imbalanced that would even make Conte wonder how the hell is he going to field a decent enough midfield that would also track back too and bring some steel also in the most important area of the pitch.

From Vidal, Marchisio, Pirlo, to Kante, Matic to Brozovic, Barella, Vidal to Fred, Pogba, Fernandes. His midfield was always full of two soldiers plus a creative, but at the same time a workhorse, too, one. No he is left with two donkeys in Fred and McT, an ageing Matic that is no better than the current Obi Mikel that plays in Kuweit and two primadonnas that can't tackle, nor track back to save their lifes. Plus Ronaldo up front who is the worst at pressing and tracking back. Add to that there is no room for Sancho and Greenwood in Conte's setup.

He is a good manager, but he will have a lot of work to do to impose his own style in that incredibly imbalanced squad. I forgot about Wan Bissaka - just the thought of Conte watching his abject crossing and passing and his general attacking play makes me think his hair transplant is going to suffer from the very first training session haha.q

he has already ringed up good old victor moses. Maybe he can play lindelöf in midfield. I reckon it will take him a couple of weeks before he demotes Greenwood to the reserves for behavioural reasons. 
 

Imagine going from that little clown ole to Conte. Must be night and day. 
 

btw he should demand that the whole coaching staff has to go. What do you need carrick for ffs. Bring 12 Italians preferably ones who don’t speak English to intimidate the players 

Edited October 25, 20214 yr by azpi28

3 hours ago, Phillip said:

Bring back Phil Jones?

 

 

😊

That would be something if he would turn jones into a valuable player. At least he seems to have the right personality for Conte 

1 hour ago, Gol15 said:

Conte is apparently open for the job so you never know he might just go for it and sign a deal that would get him a nice compesation if he's sacked too fast.

But I think that his style at this point in time wouldn't suit Man United, Conte would need a signing to help him out just like Mourinho brought Zlatan to help his case in the dressing room but once he was gone, the divas turned against Jose so I can see those players not wanting Conte to come at all. I hope that if Conte does come back to the PL that the club he goes to is something sketchy like Newcastle, just for fun.

The good thing is that Zidane isn't looking to take over any team, he wants to manage France after the 2022 WC, he's maybe the ideal manager for Man United that they won't be able to get.

I don't doubt that he might be open to taking the job but it's so out of character for Conte to take on a job once the season has already started. 

Half of his impact is instilling a regime and mindset during pre-season such as dietary requirements for players and, lots of running to get them at full fitness. 

Looking at United right now I have no idea how Conte has an impact there at the moment. 

Maybe he wouldn't play a back 3, like he attempt to with Chelsea, but they need shoring up at the back and that would seem to be the easiest way to do it. 

4 hours ago, ForeverCarefree said:

I don't doubt that he might be open to taking the job but it's so out of character for Conte to take on a job once the season has already started. 

Half of his impact is instilling a regime and mindset during pre-season such as dietary requirements for players and, lots of running to get them at full fitness. 

Looking at United right now I have no idea how Conte has an impact there at the moment. 

Maybe he wouldn't play a back 3, like he attempt to with Chelsea, but they need shoring up at the back and that would seem to be the easiest way to do it. 

Because he's an actual football manager, not a bloke that claps a lot and tells his players "Come on lads" a lot, hoping for some miracle bit of skill or a mistake to bail him out. 

I can't remember a single example of Ole beating a team tactically with setups or subs, other than simple counter attacking on overextended teams, which hardly requires nous, just fast players and transitions.

Theyve benefitted massively from other teams mistakes and refereeing "decisions". 

3 years down the line and he still has no recognizable style or cohesion. It's actually shocking, considering the wages and transfer spends. 

He should have been sacked on the spot after the Europa league final in any case, it was his test - he failed. 

Well obviously as a fan of a direct rival, I hope Solskjaer stays at Man Utd for as long as possible. From what I can see he is the main thing holding back what could be a scary squad (although the midfield is a mess and Ronaldo was a baffling signing).

2 hours ago, PloKoon13 said:

Well obviously as a fan of a direct rival, I hope Solskjaer stays at Man Utd for as long as possible. From what I can see he is the main thing holding back what could be a scary squad (although the midfield is a mess and Ronaldo was a baffling signing).

Ole may not be the best manager in the world but for the last 2 years they were fine. What happen to ole is similar to what happen with Lamp last season. Both tried to cram too many attackers who can't play defense. Cavani will press, do all the cf duty, Ronaldo give you nothing except goals. Same with Lampard, he replaced Willian who will defend and provide ball retention up top with werner/Ziyech who can't defend and everything fell apart. 

Ole let the whole "United way" got into his head, tried to play like an elite team and paid for it. He had good success against top 6 teams by playing counter ( main reasons he looked like a decent manager without winning a trophy), once he decided to press high it's  just suicide. If he's still around this Saturday, he will play a deep compact 433, and will get a result against Spurs.

The good news is that it looks like United will stick by Ole. We should be very thankful to Roman and the board who seems to have a good sense of when to sack a manager and also who to replace them with. Under Roman, they have rarely got it wrong. 

15 hours ago, ForeverCarefree said:

I don't doubt that he might be open to taking the job but it's so out of character for Conte to take on a job once the season has already started. 

Half of his impact is instilling a regime and mindset during pre-season such as dietary requirements for players and, lots of running to get them at full fitness. 

Looking at United right now I have no idea how Conte has an impact there at the moment. 

Maybe he wouldn't play a back 3, like he attempt to with Chelsea, but they need shoring up at the back and that would seem to be the easiest way to do it. 

I think Conte is a lot more suited to that squad than people think. Just like us last year that team are being underestimated because they're being undercoached it really is that simple.

De Gea

 

Lindelof

Varane 

Shaw

 

Dalot 

Matic

Pogba/VDB

Telles

 

Rashford/Sancho

Cavani

Ronaldo

They will probably need a new RWB and replacement for Matic to be a proper title challenging side but make no mistake that line-up is competitive in no time.

1 hour ago, JM7 said:

The good news is that it looks like United will stick by Ole. We should be very thankful to Roman and the board who seems to have a good sense of when to sack a manager and also who to replace them with. Under Roman, they have rarely got it wrong. 

We'd be even more ruthless if I was owner. My tiping point with Jose 2.0, Carlo, Scolari and Lampard all came 1/2 months before they actually left 🤣

My only mistake was AVB, admittedly a huge one but still.

Man City really love the league cup. Real strong side out tonight at West ham.

On 26/10/2021 at 15:29, Argo said:

I think Conte is a lot more suited to that squad than people think. Just like us last year that team are being underestimated because they're being undercoached it really is that simple.

De Gea

 

Lindelof

Varane 

Shaw

 

Dalot 

Matic

Pogba/VDB

Telles

 

Rashford/Sancho

Cavani

Ronaldo

They will probably need a new RWB and replacement for Matic to be a proper title challenging side but make no mistake that line-up is competitive in no time.

On paper that would be a good line up, but that defensive line bar Varane is quite average and the midfield is not very solid. Matic is not the footballer we had back then and Pogba is a hit and miss that is not fully committed to the team. The front line is good, but those players do not press as required by Conte. So I still think that Conte can’t work his magic there. Most importantly, there are too many egos on that team, with Ronaldo, Pogba, Cavani, Maguire… I’m not sure whether he would not clash with them too.

 

Well City finally lose in the league cup. Shame Spurs and Pool are through.

the Man City cup will find a new home this season - hoping it's Stamford Bridge

Unless Liverpool start rolling out their first team we are strong favourites for this now.

1 minute ago, axman2526 said:

Well City finally lose in the league cup. Shame Spurs and Pool are through.

True.

6 minutes ago, RMH said:

On paper that would be a good line up, but that defensive line bar Varane is quite average and the midfield is not very solid. Matic is not the footballer we had back then and Pogba is a hit and miss that is not fully committed to the team. The front line is good, but those players do not press as required by Conte. So I still think that Conte can’t work his magic there. Most importantly, there are too many egos on that team, with Ronaldo, Pogba, Cavani, Maguire… I’m not sure whether he would not clash with them too.

I think Maguire is too thick and too sh*t to have an ego.