4 hours ago, Whats_The_Mata? said:

There's 15 or so players in the squad we need to move on this summer before Gallagher.

But clubs won't touch our dross they'll be like vultures picking away at the few useful players we have.  I expect at least 2 of Connor/Reece/Nkunku/Enzo/ Palmer to go because clubs will take advantage of our FFP issues.

The deadwood won't be as easily shifted.

It will be academy players to go first because of the profit margin there. Connor is one of the top names that crops up for that reason, and also because he has yet to agree a new deal. I've also seen Colwill linked with a move to Liverpool again. Don't rule that one out if the FFP issues are worse than thought.

Asking for 150k a week but missed a 1v1 against a reserve keeper.

Can't wait for that pure profit in the summer, time to get rid of mediocrity. 

You are quite obviously flaming for a rise from people!

What are you going to do with all that 'pure profit that you can't wait for' in your bank account?

Bad day for Gallagher. If you’re going to play that attacking midfielder role ahead of Caicedo and Enzo who are not the most prolific, then you have to be scoring goals and be more composed in the box. You could argue today was an off day, but I got a feeling that if he was a more regular goalscorer, there wouldn’t be such an issue with a new deal for him.

POTS my f**king ball sack, he's never been close to Mason Mounts level as much as many on here don't want to admit it. 

As others said on the thread, he's an average player who's being played as a key player and is it any wonder we're midtable. 

4 hours ago, Sconnie Blue said:

If he wasn’t certain to be sold then, he certainly is now. 
 

Those missed chances won’t help him make his case. 

Was his Mount moments. Last memories to take from the club before he is sold. Sadly he does not have the CL winners medal for his time with us that Mount does.

Best player on the pitch for us yesterday but missed when it mattered. 

We need a goalscorer so we're not just relying on our midfielders to rescue games. 

When Gallagher plays as our number 10, then nothing to add more. 

I very appreciate his work rate on the pitch, he's there to press and cover other players. 

But a player on his level cannot be a crucial player for us if we aiming to become a top team. 

Backup player for a box to box midfielder would be great. 

Perhaps the fact he has to cover two positions plus his own might have a lot to do with it. 

I called it first few weeks of the season when I said we look better without enzo in the side, I think we have another case of Crespo and Veron at the club. Great player but just not cut out for the premiership.  We also look better with Silva out the side too. 

Enzo isn't a team player and refused to pass twice to players in better positions in front of an open goal.

Move him on in the summer, it isn't working and he isn't at the speed of the premiership yet after new

But sure, blame poch...

 

I am big backer of him but you can’t miss those chances in the final just can’t. 
I said before that he’s good squad player but no where near a starter in a team who wants to win championships.

Maddison, KDB, Odegaard are the levels of a true number 10 or an attacking midfielder.

Conor shouldn't be sold but is just is a squad player for me.

If we are hanging our hat on him to be our main creative player then booking a stadium tour though the official club website is the closest we'll get to seeing a major trophy anytime soon.

Edited February 26, 20242 yr by 2211

I think most would agree he is a good squad player rather than a starter, but the question is can we afford to have a good squad player worth potentially £45m-£50m of 'pure profit'?

17 minutes ago, timetowaste said:

I think most would agree he is a good squad player rather than a starter, but the question is can we afford to have a good squad player worth potentially £45m-£50m of 'pure profit'?

That's the best argument for selling him. Basically having to sacrifice him due to us being poorly managed from a financial perspective. 

If it wasn't for that I'd be looking to sell a lot of players before him including Caciedo, Sterling, Jackson, Mudryk, and Cucurella.

35 minutes ago, timetowaste said:

I think most would agree he is a good squad player rather than a starter, but the question is can we afford to have a good squad player worth potentially £45m-£50m of 'pure profit'?

No we can't.

But the question is do you think this ownership would improve the squad after selling Gallagher for £50m? Or will they just throw it away on another Mudryk?

39 minutes ago, timetowaste said:

I think most would agree he is a good squad player rather than a starter, but the question is can we afford to have a good squad player worth potentially £45m-£50m of 'pure profit'?

 

19 minutes ago, loz said:

That's the best argument for selling him. Basically having to sacrifice him due to us being poorly managed from a financial perspective. 

If it wasn't for that I'd be looking to sell a lot of players before him including Caciedo, Sterling, Jackson, Mudryk, and Cucurella.

I think there might be another issue as well. Would he agree to squad player wages when he's playing pretty much every minute of every game? Ideally I would hope for a one year extension to see how he does next season before offering another long contract, but neither side would agree to that. His stock is high and he'd want the big wages now, and his value is high so the board would want to capitalize. Unfortunate timing for the contract to be running out.

1 minute ago, yaz said:

 

I think there might be another issue as well. Would he agree to squad player wages when he's playing pretty much every minute of every game? Ideally I would hope for a one year extension to see how he does next season before offering another long contract, but neither side would agree to that. His stock is high and he'd want the big wages now, and his value is high so the board would want to capitalize. Unfortunate timing for the contract to be running out.

And whilst I don't have a full list of every player's salary I think we can safely assume he is getting paid less than a number of players he is out performing. 

Sell is the logical solution if he's refusing to sign another contract, what concerns me is what we will do with the profits we made? Judging my the last 18 months, a couple of 20 year old nobody heard of before. Football wise, if Nkunku is the number 10 people been raving about, replacing Gallagher would be easy. Someone has to pick up the slack doing the chasing around, otherwise we'd be looking at another 100M player to help out Enzo and Caicedo.

17 hours ago, olderschoolcfc said:

Perhaps the fact he has to cover two positions plus his own might have a lot to do with it. 

I called it first few weeks of the season when I said we look better without enzo in the side, I think we have another case of Crespo and Veron at the club. Great player but just not cut out for the premiership.  We also look better with Silva out the side too. 

Enzo isn't a team player and refused to pass twice to players in better positions in front of an open goal.

Move him on in the summer, it isn't working and he isn't at the speed of the premiership yet after new

But sure, blame poch...

 

You think Crespo wasn't a good player for us? 

Blimey! If only we had a centre forward as good as him now! It would solve 95% of our on pitch problems in a heartbeat.

9 hours ago, timetowaste said:

I think most would agree he is a good squad player rather than a starter, but the question is can we afford to have a good squad player worth potentially £45m-£50m of 'pure profit'?

No we can't   but we are in a position where we don't have a say in it. This summer he has one year left then moves for free. With Poch playing him, and why not if he is the only one doing the hard yards, then he's going nowhere regardless of what the club think they can get for him.

5 hours ago, just said:

You think Crespo wasn't a good player for us? 

Blimey! If only we had a centre forward as good as him now! It would solve 95% of our on pitch problems in a heartbeat.

Yep, if we had a good striker banging in goals what a different atmosphere there would be at the club, literally from top to bottom. Especially for the players.

Without some 'pure' profit how will we fund some more 'pure' mediocrity?

6 hours ago, just said:

You think Crespo wasn't a good player for us? 

Blimey! If only we had a centre forward as good as him now! It would solve 95% of our on pitch problems in a heartbeat.

Crespo was a next level player. Sadly, his wife or family didnt settle in UK and we were robbed of his talent. That was the wider point I was making about Argentinians in the Premier League. 

Think we just have to be patient with Jackson. He has some really good attributes and will improve and be better next season. He needs confidence... probably better understanding with the midfielders who dont really supply him. 

If I were Poch, I'd drop Gallagher into the engine room ahead of Enzo, try Nkunku in his position. Willing to give Nkunku benefit of the doubt given his injuries but if we have another S**t show with him next year movie him on in January. Personally think It may help Gallaghers goal scoring if he is arriving into the the box late wouldn't mind seeing it. 

Anyhow, next game coming up shortly. Let's all get behind the players and manager and make the bridge rock on home games. Im sure the players will respond positively. remember the away fans at palace and Disasi? we need more scenes like that. end of. 

 

 

On 26/02/2024 at 01:14, Dr. Socrates said:

Bad day for Gallagher. If you’re going to play that attacking midfielder role ahead of Caicedo and Enzo who are not the most prolific, then you have to be scoring goals and be more composed in the box. You could argue today was an off day, but I got a feeling that if he was a more regular goalscorer, there wouldn’t be such an issue with a new deal for him.

He covers the ground like Kante yet gets the ball in Lampard type shooting positions, unfortunately he is not clinical.

29 minutes ago, olderschoolcfc said:

If I were Poch, I'd drop Gallagher into the engine room ahead of Enzo, try Nkunku in his position. Willing to give Nkunku benefit of the doubt given his injuries but if we have another S**t show with him next year movie him on in January. Personally think It may help Gallaghers goal scoring if he is arriving into the the box late wouldn't mind seeing it.

Totally agree - Conor cannot be starting as our number 10, he just isn't good enough at finishing. Keep him as a centre mid and let him compete with Enzo and Caicedo.

If we do decide to sell Conor in the summer to bring in some funds for FFP, then who takes his place in the team (assuming we don't have the funds to bring in a replacement)? I ask because the obvious options seem to be constantly injured?