Our transfer window out of 10. (Poll)

[HazardousChoice]

Now the dust has settled on our window what does everyone think?

[Sexyfootball]

Got to be 8/10. 

Todd's only been at the club 3 months, and managed to oversee bringing in 12 players, send 22 out on loan, and move 21 out. 55 transactions in one window must be some sort of record (outside of Nottingham anyway 🙂 ) 

First team squad seems better balanced (3 goalkeepers, 8 defenders, 8 midfielders and 6 forwards), with most of the replacements of similar or arguably better quality, and enabling Tuchel to use different formations, e.g. 4 at the back.

Obviously it's only good on paper though until proven on the pitch !

Good start. 2 more windows and I think we'll be sorted.

[dkw]

7 for incoming, 5 outgoing. Big risk in midfield, bringing in a young player on the back of a major injury, letting Gilmour go for a frankly ridiculous fee, keeping Jorginho.

[Sexyfootball]

9 minutes ago, dkw said:

7 for incoming, 5 outgoing. Big risk in midfield, bringing in a young player on the back of a major injury, letting Gilmour go for a frankly ridiculous fee, keeping Jorginho.

So you're marking him down heavily for outgoing off the back of selling Gilmour and keeping Jorginho ? That's a bit myopic don't you think when 21 players have been moved out including several way below standard that we'd been unable or unwilling to shift for years, plus another 22 sent out on loan ... ?

He's got to get 5 out of 10 just for binning off Lukaku LOL, let alone all the other good work ... 

[drjonesy1994]

I'll go for a 7, a midfielder should've been a priority and leaving it until the last minute meant we ended up with Plan B or C. If we had acted much earlier we could've secured a top target here.

We shifted a load of 'deadwood', more than we have ever done in one window with the likes of:
-Barkley
-Drinkwater
-Emerson
-Kenedy
-Musonda
-Bakayoko
-Hopefully Batshuayi to follow

Whilst recognising it was the right time to move players on like Werner, and Alonso.  

If someone had said in May we would sign Koulibaly, Fofana, Sterling, Cucurella I would've bitten your hand off and taken it. Auba I am cautiously optimistic about and think he will do an ok/ decent job for us.

Add to that all of the younger players we have signed as well, with the right development plans and loans they could become key members of the squad within the next 2 years, which in turn could help save us a few bob down the line. 

I also would've liked us to move on one of Ziyech or Pulisic because I don't see either of them featuring that much, and don't think they offer enough consistently to warrant starting. 

All in all a decent window, but the scrambling to get a midfielder and not moving on 1 or 2 players who are on big wages brings the score to a 7 for me. 

[strider6004]

We did well to get in defensive replacements and refresh attacking options.

We still have gaps, no natural RB/RWB cover.

Midfield still reliant on an injury prone Kante, injury prone Kovacic and the limited Jorginho.

Thinking top 4 a realistic aim though not higher this season.

[ozboy]

I could mark the window down for not getting say De Jong or equivalent but otherwise I think it was great 8/10. Only a couple months back we were worried about whether any money would be spent. Far better balance in the squad now. And just because the overall standard is higher than last season and better balanced still doesn't mean it will succeed on the pitch. Team will be crap unless those midfield pivots really do the job and that's still where the risk is along with the finishing. 

Hazardouschoice must be disappointed, he thinks the window was one of the worst ever.

[ozboy]

43 minutes ago, Sexyfootball said:

Got to be 8/10. 

Todd's only been at the club 3 months, and managed to oversee bringing in 12 players, send 22 out on loan, and move 21 out. 55 transactions in one window must be some sort of record (outside of Nottingham anyway 🙂 ) 

First team squad seems better balanced (3 goalkeepers, 8 defenders, 8 midfielders and 6 forwards), with most of the replacements of similar or arguably better quality, and enabling Tuchel to use different formations, e.g. 4 at the back.

Obviously it's only good on paper though until proven on the pitch !

Good start. 2 more windows and I think we'll be sorted.

That is a great table. 

[RMH]

Good players signed, though I'm not sure that Aubameyang is going to hit it on at this stage of his career, but I hope he proves me wrong. However, and this has been the elephant in the room since the opening of the transfer window, midfield has not been appropriately dealt with. We are still reliant on Jorginho, Kovacic and Kante, and the last two were injured before kicking a ball in a competitive game. Everybody knew this and Tuchel only realised last week!? We have two prospects in Chukwemeka and Gallagher back, and a panic loan in Zakaria. So I give it a 6/10.

[dkw]

32 minutes ago, Sexyfootball said:

So you're marking him down heavily for outgoing off the back of selling Gilmour and keeping Jorginho ? That's a bit myopic don't you think when 21 players have been moved out including several way below standard that we'd been unable or unwilling to shift for years, plus another 22 sent out on loan ... ?

He's got to get 5 out of 10 just for binning off Lukaku LOL, let alone all the other good work ... 

Erm, yes, I am marking it down for those reason.

We still have no creativity from midfield, we have left it to the last minute to bring in a defensive midfielder and the one we have signed is a massive gamble.

Basically what RMH has said better than I did.

Edited September 2, 2022 by dkw

[azpi28]

In between 7 and 8

- i am sad that gilmour is leaving 

- in hindsight I wished we wouldn’t have wasted so much time going after De Jong. We should have gone to Ajax with 50 million euros and sign Alvarez when they still had a chance to replace him.

- Zaha would have been a good addition in my opinion

- I’m a bit worried about Pulisic being unhappy and staying 

- In hindsight Jesus would have been perfect for us 

but for his first ever window Todd Boehly really did an amazing job. And he has probably made a lot of connections and set things in motion already for the next window (Gvardiol for example)

if Aubameyang and Zakaria turn out to be great additions it has to be a 8.5 

Edited September 2, 2022 by azpi28

[EdinburghBlue]

Went back and forth between 5 & 6, eventually went with 5 probably shoulda went 6. 
 

The outgoings while good to get a lot of deadwood out the door we done it by either giving them away for free or terminating their contracts (which will likely have meant paying them up) so from a business standpoint not that great. I also thinking letting Colwill & Gilmour go were both mistakes.

 

On incomings, Sterling is a quality addition, as is Fofana.

- Koulibaly at 31 and Auba at 33 for a combined £55m plus Alonso - I’m not so convinced is good use of money. 
- Cucurella while a good player was not that critical to be £60m+ - he’s not a better player than a fully fit Chilwell, there’s a reason City with all their money walked away.
- The fact we didn’t think a striker or central midfielder were a priority until deadline day other than chasing De Jong who by all accounts was never looking to leave Barca.

 

[strider6004]

Found this and it puts us top of the spending charts though if you look at net spending we are less than £1m more than Utd.

Interestingly WHU our next opponents were the third top spender.

https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/premier-league/einnahmenausgaben/wettbewerb/GB1

[charierre]

7 as there isn't a 6.5. It was always going to be a difficult window with a new owner not fully upto speed on football. He has though to his credit backed TT fully with cash and given him the authority in the window. That said we came into the window knowing we needed two CBs , the business was a little slow and we are now on catch up in trying get a coherent defensive unit. Fofana would appear to be  very good business, Sterling likewise. Cucurella we vastly overpaid , something I think we will regret in the future though he is a solid player. I have to say I have  doubts about Koulibaly. Auba should do us a job short term but as I've said elsewhere I think not upgrading our uncreative midfield  may return to bite us. The young players brought in may or may not be good acquisitions, time will tell though I doubt we will lose much on them

[Brigadeiro Mk II]

Gave it a 7, could be a 6 or 8 due to circumstances.

It really felt that Todd had learned about "Deadline Day" and thought it was a major event he had to take part and "win it" so he went all out on bids for lots of players that maybe should've been snatched before the season started. I do like the drama of deadline day though, so I will leave it at that. 

Glad to see all those deadwood being finally shipped out, hoping Billy has a buy back clause and slightly concerned that we should've kept Dujon as a cover for RWB so we don't have to see Azpi playing there anymore considering Reece and RLC injury history. Slightly annoyed that we let Spuds get Bissouma on the cheap if in the end we're going for someone in that mould anyway while trying to spend 50m. 

If getting 33 year old Auba means Havertz/Mount/Ziyech can start producing more upfront, it will be money well spent. Plus it allow us next season to get someone with upside like Jonathan David or evaluate Broja as a starter. 

Keep it up, Todd!

[coco]

Let you know in May.

[Zeta]

IN

Transfers

- Cucurella - 8/10 - Good player, will add some quality depth to our left hand side. Massively overpaid though.
- Koulibaly - 7/10 - Supposedly a quality CB, but had a dodgy start and looks a little slow and cumbersome for this league. Looking a downgrade on Rudiger so far. Time will tell if he adjusts and improves.
- Fofana - 7.5/10 - I honestly know nothing about this guy. Apparently he's highly rated so I've given it 7.5, because we were short in defence, but I have no idea if he's actually any good or not, or if we've been had.
- Zakaria - 7.5/10 - Low risk signing on loan. Adds depth to midfield. If he's sh*t, he can go back to juventus.
- Chukwuemeka - 5/10 - Could potentially be good in the future, but 20m for someone with very little experience and 1 year left on his deal is crazy. Likely going to turn out to be a poor one.
- Aubameyang - 6.5/10 - Not overly expensive, but hes 33 already and I just can't see him making much of a difference when we have such a poor overall attack throughout the whole squad. Who is going to provide him with chances, besides Sterling? I'll be surprised if he gets 10 PL goals.
- Sterling - 8.5/10 - Didn't really want him if I'm honest, but he's done well so far. He can't do it alone though.
- Slonina - No idea. Never heard of him.
- Casadei - Same as above. A lot of money for these 2 though, based on very little.

Returning
- Gallagher - 7/10 - Gives us a bit of depth, but he's not suited to CM really. He can't pass, loses the ball under pressure. He's more of an attacking midfielder, and I just don't see where he fits in, with this current squad.
- Broja - 7/10 - Hard to see him getting much game time now we've signed Aubameyang, plus Tuchel's insistence on using Havertz up there. But hopefully he will get a few games, a few goals, and push on from there.
 

OUT

- Rudiger - 0/10 - Terrible by the outgoing board to not sort out his contract situation sooner. Lost a quality player for nothing. 
- Alonso - 10/10 - Was the right time to leave. Infuriating player, but important for a few seasons at LWB, and came up with some important goals and moments.
- Christensen - 5/10 - Again, poor to let his contract run out, but by the sounds of it, he wanted to go anyway. Was never anything special. Showed up occasionally. 
- Barkley - 10/10 - Should have left years ago
- Werner - 6/10 - Right decision to get rid of him, but awful price. Massive loss taken on this one.
- Kenedy - 10/10 - Finally.
- Miazga - 10/10
- Emerson - 10/10
- Gilmour - 6/10 - Bit of a shame he didn't get many chances under Tuchel, but can't see him going too much further at this level. The main issue here is the horrendous price we got for him.
- Drinkwater - 10/10 - Halleluiah. What an awful signing.
- Musonda - 10/10 - I give it about a month before he falls out with his new club and starts posting weird sh*t on instagram.
- Batshayui - 10/10 - Thank god.

Loans
- Lukaku - 10/10 - 10 for getting rid of him. 0 for whoever was in charge of this transfer. We've literally given Inter 100m for free.
- Colwill - 10/10 - Gets some much needed PL experience (hopefully, if Brighton play him), and we keep him on the books for next season.
- Sarr - 5/10 - Why couldn't we just sell him? He's garbage.
- Baba - 0/10 - For the love of god, just sell or release him. Why waste everyone's time with yet another loan?
- Ampadu - 6/10 - Never going to make it at the top level, so I don't really care either way.
- Vale - 7/10 - Be interesting to see how he does in the Championship. I think he'll struggle. He's overhyped.
- Hudson-Odoi - 7/10 - A loan about 3 years too late, but maybe he'll get a run of games and improve. Who knows.
 

[Valerie]

14 minutes ago, Zeta said:

IN

Transfers

- Cucurella - 8/10 - Good player, will add some quality depth to our left hand side. Massively overpaid though.
- Koulibaly - 7/10 - Supposedly a quality CB, but had a dodgy start and looks a little slow and cumbersome for this league. Looking a downgrade on Rudiger so far. Time will tell if he adjusts and improves.
- Fofana - 7.5/10 - I honestly know nothing about this guy. Apparently he's highly rated so I've given it 7.5, because we were short in defence, but I have no idea if he's actually any good or not, or if we've been had.
- Zakaria - 7.5/10 - Low risk signing on loan. Adds depth to midfield. If he's sh*t, he can go back to juventus.
- Chukwuemeka - 5/10 - Could potentially be good in the future, but 20m for someone with very little experience and 1 year left on his deal is crazy. Likely going to turn out to be a poor one.
- Aubameyang - 6.5/10 - Not overly expensive, but hes 33 already and I just can't see him making much of a difference when we have such a poor overall attack throughout the whole squad. Who is going to provide him with chances, besides Sterling? I'll be surprised if he gets 10 PL goals.
- Sterling - 8.5/10 - Didn't really want him if I'm honest, but he's done well so far. He can't do it alone though.
- Slonina - No idea. Never heard of him.
- Casadei - Same as above. A lot of money for these 2 though, based on very little.

Returning
- Gallagher - 7/10 - Gives us a bit of depth, but he's not suited to CM really. He can't pass, loses the ball under pressure. He's more of an attacking midfielder, and I just don't see where he fits in, with this current squad.
- Broja - 7/10 - Hard to see him getting much game time now we've signed Aubameyang, plus Tuchel's insistence on using Havertz up there. But hopefully he will get a few games, a few goals, and push on from there.
 

OUT

- Rudiger - 0/10 - Terrible by the outgoing board to not sort out his contract situation sooner. Lost a quality player for nothing. 
- Alonso - 10/10 - Was the right time to leave. Infuriating player, but important for a few seasons at LWB, and came up with some important goals and moments.
- Christensen - 5/10 - Again, poor to let his contract run out, but by the sounds of it, he wanted to go anyway. Was never anything special. Showed up occasionally. 
- Barkley - 10/10 - Should have left years ago
- Werner - 6/10 - Right decision to get rid of him, but awful price. Massive loss taken on this one.
- Kenedy - 10/10 - Finally.
- Miazga - 10/10
- Emerson - 10/10
- Gilmour - 6/10 - Bit of a shame he didn't get many chances under Tuchel, but can't see him going too much further at this level. The main issue here is the horrendous price we got for him.
- Drinkwater - 10/10 - Halleluiah. What an awful signing.
- Musonda - 10/10 - I give it about a month before he falls out with his new club and starts posting weird sh*t on instagram.
- Batshayui - 10/10 - Thank god.

Loans
- Lukaku - 10/10 - 10 for getting rid of him. 0 for whoever was in charge of this transfer. We've literally given Inter 100m for free.
- Colwill - 10/10 - Gets some much needed PL experience (hopefully, if Brighton play him), and we keep him on the books for next season.
- Sarr - 5/10 - Why couldn't we just sell him? He's garbage.
- Baba - 0/10 - For the love of god, just sell or release him. Why waste everyone's time with yet another loan?
- Ampadu - 6/10 - Never going to make it at the top level, so I don't really care either way.
- Vale - 7/10 - Be interesting to see how he does in the Championship. I think he'll struggle. He's overhyped.
- Hudson-Odoi - 7/10 - A loan about 3 years too late, but maybe he'll get a run of games and improve. Who knows.
 

Bats hasn't gone (yet), has he?

[Zeta]

He's going to Fenerbache I believe. Finalising today.,

[Spiller86]

4 hours ago, dkw said:

7 for incoming, 5 outgoing. Big risk in midfield, bringing in a young player on the back of a major injury, letting Gilmour go for a frankly ridiculous fee, keeping Jorginho.

Gilmour's fee was negotiated down because of his limited pointing ability. 

More seriously, I'd give it an 8. Covered the loss of Rudiger and Christensen, likely improved our goal scoring stocks with Sterling and PEA joining and Lukaku and Werner leaving.

Midfield probably still a concern but Zakaria some nice starch in that area,  noting the real targets Bellingham and Rice weren't gettable. No idea of the point of spunking 60m on Cucurella, but I'll give the new team one mistake in debut.

Gilmour, I'm not as worried about as you dkw. I like him, but as I've said for 2 or 3 years, physically he just isn't going to be a long term option for us. He is tidy but too small and with a lack of pace that almost makes Jorginho look like an athlete. With that physique you've got to have Cesc like passing and football brain and while good, he's not at that level. Fee is too low though agreed.

Edited September 2, 2022 by Spiller86

[dkw]

3 minutes ago, Spiller86 said:

Gilmour's fee was negotiated down because of his limited pointing ability.

He should have stayed a season to learn from the 3rd best player in europe, we could have got £50m for him then.....

[Nick05]

4 hours ago, Sexyfootball said:

Got to be 8/10. 

Todd's only been at the club 3 months, and managed to oversee bringing in 12 players, send 22 out on loan, and move 21 out. 55 transactions in one window must be some sort of record (outside of Nottingham anyway 🙂 ) 

First team squad seems better balanced (3 goalkeepers, 8 defenders, 8 midfielders and 6 forwards), with most of the replacements of similar or arguably better quality, and enabling Tuchel to use different formations, e.g. 4 at the back.

Obviously it's only good on paper though until proven on the pitch !

Good start. 2 more windows and I think we'll be sorted.

Agreed. Would've been a solid 9 had we signed a good midfielder. But it was always an uphill task after Real signed Tchouameni and we desperately needed to fix our central defense first.

Todd would've learned a lot especially about negotiations and how to wrap things up in a decent amount of time. Too much time was wasted on the likes of Kounde and Fofana. We have a very decent squad but our league position will largely depend on the fitness and availability of Kovacic and Kante. 

[Sconnie Blue]

Boehly I'd give a 10/10.

Crazy ambition from his end and has won certainly me over. 

Tuchel 7.5/10. 

Some of his targets were questionable and seemed to only resolve a crucial area on deadline day. 

 

Average: 9/10

[Gol15]

It would have been 10/10 had we managed to sign De Jong or Alvarez. Zakaria is just a slightly less of a first choice for his team so I give it a 9/10.

[axman2526]

Hard to judge properly when we have seen only a few games of a few of the players and nothing of the young signings nor Auba, Zakaria or Fofana.

I feel having TT play pseudo director of football has been a disadvantage both in terms of him not liking being involved in transfers and it distracting him from his job as coach. It has already set us at a disadvantage in the league we need to turn around quickly.