9 minutes ago, abister1 said:

Well when you go and find out what he's pocketed from the deal and what he stands to gain from the next big money move then maybe you won't call him a clown as much as you might his principal. 

He may well get a nice slice of this deal.

18 minutes ago, abister1 said:

Well when you go and find out what he's pocketed from the deal and what he stands to gain from the next big money move then maybe you won't call him a clown as much as you might his principal. 

So far it's around 1.75m in wages plus a sign on - maybe a couple of extra mill. 

 

We would have likely trebled his wages and given a hefty bonus for not signing a new contract with Brighton. So when you find out how much he's missed out on from not having this move then maybe you will call him a clown.

Out of topic but @RIP Mourinho had a point I initially disagreed with but am now having my mind changed. 

Just saw Caicedo's heat map against us, City, and Liverpool. Brighton were playing a progressive game and Caicedo's positioning was largely just above the defensive line, meaning he can be coached and be disciplined to stay back. 

He really is the perfect partner for Enzo. 

20 hours ago, Gordon Bennett said:

What alternatives do we have at this point?

Romeo Lavia

That overpriced Mexican bloke from A**x?

Reece James playing defensive mid?

Loan for Kalvin Phillips?

Wilfred Ndidi?

 

Somebody please come up with a better option.

Valverde, Camivinga or Tchouameni at Real.

Kimmich at Bayern.

Kessie at Barca 

1 minute ago, 19seventyone said:

Valverde, Camivinga or Tchouameni at Real.

Kimmich at Bayern.

Kessie at Barca 

Real Madrid are not going to be selling their most valuable young assets to fund Mbappe (who they know will be theirs in a year). Valverde already downplayed leaving and I'd expect Perez to have learned from the consequences of selling their only DM in favor of a shiny new attacker. 

Kimmich said he isn't leaving and it would've been a major red flag if Bayern were pushing for his sale. 

Kessie is a good player but only as a squad option. 

 

 

58 minutes ago, Sconnie Blue said:

Out of topic but @RIP Mourinho had a point I initially disagreed with but am now having my mind changed. 

Just saw Caicedo's heat map against us, City, and Liverpool. Brighton were playing a progressive game and Caicedo's positioning was largely just above the defensive line, meaning he can be coached and be disciplined to stay back. 

He really is the perfect partner for Enzo. 

You've seen the light my son, now to admit RLC is the best academy graduate we've produced since Terry.

5 hours ago, Sexyfootball said:

Fine if he had cost £40m, but for what we paid, personally I still think Fernandez has as much to prove as anyone else ! Probably alone in that perspective 🙂 

Not alone

2 hours ago, Gordon Bennett said:

So far it's around 1.75m in wages plus a sign on - maybe a couple of extra mill. 

 

We would have likely trebled his wages and given a hefty bonus for not signing a new contract with Brighton. So when you find out how much he's missed out on from not having this move then maybe you will call him a clown.

You get me wrong. I was talking about his agent. 

2 minutes ago, abister1 said:

You get me wrong. I was talking about his agent. 

Ah, fair enough, my apologies.

I also think it's bloody lazy and inept of our scouting, analytical and development teams that they cannot identify a player of a similar profile for less money and have as a second or third back up option. 

When Caicedo feels he is our only choice the incentive to push Brighton for the move isn't there just as it is same for Brighton who feel our desperation is carte blanche for them to do as they please. 

8 minutes ago, abister1 said:

I also think it's bloody lazy and inept of our scouting, analytical and development teams that they cannot identify a player of a similar profile for less money and have as a second or third back up option. 

When Caicedo feels he is our only choice the incentive to push Brighton for the move isn't there just as it is same for Brighton who feel our desperation is carte blanche for them to do as they please. 

Possibly. But none of know The List, if there is any.

14 minutes ago, abister1 said:

I also think it's bloody lazy and inept of our scouting, analytical and development teams that they cannot identify a player of a similar profile for less money and have as a second or third back up option. 

When Caicedo feels he is our only choice the incentive to push Brighton for the move isn't there just as it is same for Brighton who feel our desperation is carte blanche for them to do as they please. 

I thought we'd nicked half of Brighton's back room staff - surely they know who is next on Brighton's replacement list - so just go straight for them and cut out the middle man.

As the kids say, it's pure cope if people think Caicedo is worth the amount being asked for but we've backed ourselves into a corner by letting other targets slip out of our hands (Rice and Urgate). 

8 hours ago, RIP Mourinho said:

Only wants a move to La Liga doesn't he?

Doubt if he will come here. Ziyech will tell him alll he needs to know about Chelsea and why he wants out

29 minutes ago, Edjmendy said:

Doubt if he will come here. Ziyech will tell him alll he needs to know about Chelsea and why he wants out

And if he listens to him he's not worth bringing in 

 

 

Thanks for reminding me of the existence of Ziyech at Chelsea though. Can't wait for the door to hit his arse on the way out. 

37 days of this tiresome saga to go unless Bully & Clearlake give Mr. Bloom what he's asking for which now I believe I'm correct in saying involves Levi Colwill backing up the Brinks truck to unload all that dosh and then not coming back to Cobham ever again but staying at the seaside instead with his pals Lamptey & Gilmour.

9 minutes ago, General said:

37 days of this tiresome saga to go unless Bully & Clearlake give Mr. Bloom what he's asking for which now I believe I'm correct in saying involves Levi Colwill backing up the Brinks truck to unload all that dosh and then not coming back to Cobham ever again but staying at the seaside instead with his pals Lamptey & Gilmour.

Hope not, think this week will see the end of it. Either we stump up or more on. Really hope it’s move on. 

58 minutes ago, Edjmendy said:

Doubt if he will come here. Ziyech will tell him alll he needs to know about Chelsea and why he wants out

If word of mouth was that big a thing Silva would never have come here.

24 minutes ago, General said:

37 days of this tiresome saga to go unless Bully & Clearlake give Mr. Bloom what he's asking for which now I believe I'm correct in saying involves Levi Colwill backing up the Brinks truck to unload all that dosh and then not coming back to Cobham ever again but staying at the seaside instead with his pals Lamptey & Gilmour.

Only 37 days? Feels like way more.

1 hour ago, Gordon Bennett said:

I thought we'd nicked half of Brighton's back room staff - surely they know who is next on Brighton's replacement list - so just go straight for them and cut out the middle man.

We did that and signed Santos/Casadei/Chukwuemeka but most people think they need a loan.

1 hour ago, BordeauxBlue said:

And if he listens to him he's not worth bringing in 

 

 

Thanks for reminding me of the existence of Ziyech at Chelsea though. Can't wait for the door to hit his arse on the way out. 

He'd probbaly take a photo of his ar$ehole to prove it didn't injure him.

Romano quoting De Zerbi:

”

De Zerbi on Caicedo deal: “There's no deadline [for resolving things]”. 🔵🇪🇨

“I'm happy if Moisés stays but we'll play without him as well. We have to be ready to find another midfielder if he leaves”.

“He will play vs Brentford in 2nd half”.

1 hour ago, ozboy said:

Romano quoting De Zerbi:

”

De Zerbi on Caicedo deal: “There's no deadline [for resolving things]”. 🔵🇪🇨

“I'm happy if Moisés stays but we'll play without him as well. We have to be ready to find another midfielder if he leaves”.

“He will play vs Brentford in 2nd half”.

Deadline day, who cracks first.

80 mil for him is already well above what we should be paying for him, we can't fold for over the top prices like we did last summer. Time to walk away and look for a cheaper option

We must get Caicedo, he is miles ahead of D rice who gost over 106M. 80M is a steal.  Sell Connor for 50M, use that money towards the purchase for Moises. Win, win situation for Chelsea