November 30, 20232 yr 37 minutes ago, RIP Mourinho said: Absolutely no bias. Southampton, West Ham, Real Madrid, Newcastle, Everton and AC Milan all been linked with Broja in 2022. You've missed the point completely. Had we signed Gordon and was still sat mid table, while Arsenal had signed Mudryk and were sat top, fans would have been moaning. Or moaning regardless.
December 3, 20232 yr Fan support can make a big difference in a player's performance, hope Mudryk continues to improve
December 3, 20232 yr When he gets on the ball, he looks like he will always create something, we need to see more of him on the ball. He had a quiet game overall but when he was involved, he made stuff happen (good cross, dribble/shot and winning the pen). There’s a player in there. Keep going
December 4, 20232 yr 5 hours ago, JM7 said: When he gets on the ball, he looks like he will always create something, we need to see more of him on the ball. He had a quiet game overall but when he was involved, he made stuff happen (good cross, dribble/shot and winning the pen). There’s a player in there. Keep going And this is exactly why Mudryk situation is very complicated. This is the kind of stuff that you write for an 18 year old academy grad making their debut in the first team. Not a 23 years old 100 m winger. Usually top team don't bother doung this because why bother developing player when you can get a doku for 50m Edited December 4, 20232 yr by Bob stark
December 4, 20232 yr 40 minutes ago, Bob stark said: And this is exactly why Mudryk situation is very complicated. This is the kind of stuff that you write for an 18 year old academy grad making their debut in the first team. Not a 23 years old 100 m winger. Usually top team don't bother doung this because why bother developing player when you can get a doku for 50m Perhaps Mudryk is a late bloomer? Either way we made our bed, best use him as best we can and get him a football education.
December 4, 20232 yr 4 minutes ago, axman2526 said: Perhaps Mudryk is a late bloomer? Either way we made our bed, best use him as best we can and get him a football education. The potential is clearly there but I just don't think he should be here. Salah is imo a very good example and the best case scenario. Salah went to fiorentina, to Roma and then to pool. This is imo what Mudryk need to do.
December 4, 20232 yr 1 minute ago, Bob stark said: The potential is clearly there but I just don't think he should be here. Salah is imo a very good example and the best case scenario. Salah went to fiorentina, to Roma and then to pool. This is imo what Mudryk need to do. Maybe. Be lovely for him to go along the Salah path and give Pool another FU to us....
December 4, 20232 yr 38 minutes ago, Bob stark said: The potential is clearly there but I just don't think he should be here. Salah is imo a very good example and the best case scenario. Salah went to fiorentina, to Roma and then to pool. This is imo what Mudryk need to do. Issue is you can’t loan out a €70m winger. The Santos Nottingham loan situation is a cautionary tale on player development, no club is obligated to develop a player for the parent club.
December 4, 20232 yr 30 minutes ago, ducavis said: Issue is you can’t loan out a €70m winger. The Santos Nottingham loan situation is a cautionary tale on player development, no club is obligated to develop a player for the parent club. Agree. 1 or 2 season loan will be good for Mudyrk but as you said his fee is simply too high.
December 4, 20232 yr 2 hours ago, ducavis said: Issue is you can’t loan out a €70m winger. The Santos Nottingham loan situation is a cautionary tale on player development, no club is obligated to develop a player for the parent club. Why not? We loan out a 100m striker.
December 4, 20232 yr 20 minutes ago, SimonH said: Why not? We loan out a 100m striker. C’mon we have actively put Lukaku on the market, and if the papers are to be believed there is a £37m transfer fee agreed for next summer. A parallel would be the Pepe to Arsenal for £72m who they loaned out to Nice after 2 indifferent reasons, and ended up releasing on a free to Tranzbonspor. I can’t see Murdyk ever coming back from a loan.
December 4, 20232 yr From what I saw yesterday Mudryk look decent not sure about the penalty though given the ones we have not got awarded at other times I'm not complaining.
December 4, 20232 yr Thought he looked very dangerous in flashes yesterday. Hopefully he can be more consistent throughout the game but overall a fairly good performance from him.
December 6, 20232 yr 1 hour ago, Snedger said: After 15 minutes tonight, the answer is still a resounding NO. I'm convinced there's a severe amount of substance abuse in the area or people here are openly lying when they say there's potential there or they can see the talent in Mudryk. When people say he's talented or has potential they mean "he's fast" and they hope he can actually develop a football IQ or be the first person in human history to go from being unable to control a football to having elite technical ability in their 20s. Edited December 6, 20232 yr by Whats_The_Mata?
December 6, 20232 yr 6 minutes ago, Whats_The_Mata? said: I'm convinced there's a severe amount of substance abuse in the area or people here are openly lying when they say there's potential there or they can see the talent in Mudryk. When people say he's talented or has potential they mean "he's fast" and they hope he can actually develop a football IQ or be the first person in human history to go from being unable to control a football to having elite technical ability in their 20s. The way I see it is that we've paid a shedload on a young winger. So far he's looked sh*te I can't even deny it, I've got a glimmer of hope he could become good but it fades after every game I watch him. Given the situation the team is in, all we can do is play him and hope something clicks. But it's looking likely the Mudryk investment is not going to work out and it will indeed be another laughable Chelsea flop added to our long list of Chelsea flops. At this point what can we really do? I doubt anyone will buy him.
December 6, 20232 yr 1 hour ago, Wearyourblue said: yeah that assist was rubbish Oh well. That pass to a teammate who then still had a lot of work to do means he’s a nailed on Balon D’Or winner. All his countless mistakes tonight are completely nullified by one pass that found his man. Pele, Messi, Puskas, Cryuff, Mudryk. I’ll be telling my grandchildren about the time I saw Mudryk pass the ball to Palmer at Old Trafford. And then Poch lost the plot and substituted him when we were a goal down. What was he thinking? Edited December 6, 20232 yr by Snedger
December 6, 20232 yr 15 minutes ago, Victor90 said: The way I see it is that we've paid a shedload on a young winger. So far he's looked sh*te I can't even deny it, I've got a glimmer of hope he could become good but it fades after every game I watch him. Given the situation the team is in, all we can do is play him and hope something clicks. But it's looking likely the Mudryk investment is not going to work out and it will indeed be another laughable Chelsea flop added to our long list of Chelsea flops. At this point what can we really do? I doubt anyone will buy him. He'll never be as good as the likes of Pulisic, Havertz, CHO or Ziyech but because he's on another level pace wise and pace can't be taught people want to pretend he's talented and the actual basics of being a footballer can be magically aquired. No serious club can give a squad spot to someone as technically bad as Mudryk you can't give a number to a player that controls the ball once every 5 times its passed to him because he's so quick he can threaten anyone with pace the few times he gets it under control. Don't think this lad would be a professional footballer if he was slightly slower he's as bad at every other area of the game as we've seen a PL player be and I don't think any club can achieve anything with a player that has absolutely no ability but pace. The worst part of it is he struggles against high lines like against Spurs and City because he's absolutely pants at controlling the ball when played in behind and can't finish his dinner when he does. Take the loss. Get rid in January. Edited December 6, 20232 yr by Whats_The_Mata?
December 6, 20232 yr Just now, Whats_The_Mata? said: He'll never be as good as the likes of Pulisic, Havertz, CHO or Ziyech but because he's on another level pace wise and pace can't be taught people want to pretend he's talented and the actual basics of being a footballer can be magically aquired. No serious club can give a squad spot to someone as technically bad as Mudryk you can't give a number to a player that controls the ball once every 5 times its passed to him because he's so quick he can threaten anyone with pace the few times he gets it under control. Don't think this lad would be a professional footballer if he was slightly slower he's as bad at every other area of the game as we've seen a PL player be and I don't think any club can achieve anything with a player that has absolutely no ability but pace. Take the loss. Get rid in January. Possibly, but you say that like it's easy, we won't get rid of Mudryk anytime soon, definitely not in January.
December 6, 20232 yr To be perfectly honest, he was better than our other attackers today and on another day he hits the right side of the post and its in. Faint praise considering everyone was rubbish, even Palmer despite the magic goal. Edited December 6, 20232 yr by Remodez
December 6, 20232 yr Been patient with Mudryk, but he is not a top level football player, he should be in the championship. Really low football IQ.
December 7, 20232 yr That leaked conversation between Redknapp and Lamps that Frank believes Mudryk simply does not have it upstairs to make it left me concerned. Frank knows what it takes to make it at the top, and you cannot teach football IQ.
December 7, 20232 yr 1 minute ago, axman2526 said: That leaked conversation between Redknapp and Lamps that Frank believes Mudryk simply does not have it upstairs to make it left me concerned. Frank knows what it takes to make it at the top, and you cannot teach football IQ. I've stated it before. He reminds me a lot of Gronkjaer. Plenty of pace, but very little football brain. When he gets himself into a decent position using his pace, there is just as much chance he will sky an awful cross out for a goal kick, as he will test the defense with a ball into the box. He is young so there is some hope but I honestly don't know who decided he was worth the big transfer fee. Seems like a crazy decision in hindsight.
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