Effort was there, but just not playing well. The number of times he lost possession in good area or ran straight into defenders are just ridiculous. In this type of open game, as soon as you lose possession, you are on the back foot of being countered and potentially a goal against you. Mudryk has very little composure or skill  with the ball, maybe he's a good fit for a counter attacking team, but just not good enough for us right now.

3 hours ago, icecoolguy22 said:

Effort was there, but just not playing well. The number of times he lost possession in good area or ran straight into defenders are just ridiculous. In this type of open game, as soon as you lose possession, you are on the back foot of being countered and potentially a goal against you. Mudryk has very little composure or skill  with the ball, maybe he's a good fit for a counter attacking team, but just not good enough for us right now.

Good for him if others step up.

Sometimes we are too quick to write a player off. He needs lots of time and work. Hopefully he lives up to his potential. 

"Mudryk has very little composure or skill with the ball, maybe he's a good fit for a counter attacking team, but just not good enough for us right now."

I thought he did fantastic on Jackson's goal, occupied 3 defenders (maybe even a fourth), and slipped a nice ball across. Showed both skill and composure, what he needs is consistency. Gallagher's shot worked there, but the better option probably is finding Sterling.

10 minutes ago, Wearyourblue said:

"Mudryk has very little composure or skill with the ball, maybe he's a good fit for a counter attacking team, but just not good enough for us right now."

I thought he did fantastic on Jackson's goal, occupied 3 defenders (maybe even a fourth), and slipped a nice ball across. Showed both skill and composure, what he needs is consistency. Gallagher's shot worked there, but the better option probably is finding Sterling.

Yes Mudryk made the space for Caicedo and found him with the right pass. Key part of that goal 

5 hours ago, icecoolguy22 said:

Effort was there, but just not playing well. The number of times he lost possession in good area or ran straight into defenders are just ridiculous. In this type of open game, as soon as you lose possession, you are on the back foot of being countered and potentially a goal against you. Mudryk has very little composure or skill  with the ball, maybe he's a good fit for a counter attacking team, but just not good enough for us right now.

I thought that pass to Jackson was very good. 

The problem with Mudryk imo is not his composure or skill. He is more than good enough to play. Heck, he is probably the fastest player in PL right now.

 

As usual, his passing/vision/whatever you want to call it is very good. Just needs to keep his dribbling very simple and to a minimal. 

It frustrates me how he can’t really beat a man with dribbling. As soon as he tries to take a player on you just know he’s going to lose the ball.

Personally I don’t think he’s good enough and it’s embarrassing we spent so much on him.

11 minutes ago, dansubrosa said:

It frustrates me how he can’t really beat a man with dribbling. As soon as he tries to take a player on you just know he’s going to lose the ball.

Personally I don’t think he’s good enough and it’s embarrassing we spent so much on him.

The problem is he think he can take on anybody at anytime. 

He'll be fine. The squad now has a settled starting XI, the confidence is rising and he'll be able to express himself further.

Let's not be too hasty.

Took Martinelli 3 seasons in England before he produced anything of note for Arsenal. Similar levels of experience for each player before they came to the Prem. We've got Sterling/Palmer performing and Nkunku to come back. No need to try to force things with Mudryk yet, patience will be key to reaping the rewards with him. 

On 13/11/2023 at 18:05, RIP Mourinho said:

Took Martinelli 3 seasons in England before he produced anything of note for Arsenal. Similar levels of experience for each player before they came to the Prem. We've got Sterling/Palmer performing and Nkunku to come back. No need to try to force things with Mudryk yet, patience will be key to reaping the rewards with him. 

Why wait for another 3 years? 

Mudryk is ready now. All he need to is stop trying to be cr7/Neymar and just play football. 

 

 

 

My 2 pennies... he doesn't get given the ball or played in as often as he should... he's there and ready and I think he could probably do more damage if he was given the ball earlier... etc.

14 minutes ago, Bebe1980 said:

My 2 pennies... he doesn't get given the ball or played in as often as he should... he's there and ready and I think he could probably do more damage if he was given the ball earlier... etc.

i would say players have to earn the ball time.. right now our first priority has to be sterling and palmer.. so Mudryk needs to do more when he gets the ball. Right now its either full pace run at the defence or pass backwards.. he needs to try to link up, take a few touches and let the game develop etc.. 

5 hours ago, Bob stark said:

Why wait for another 3 years? 

Mudryk is ready now. All he need to is stop trying to be cr7/Neymar and just play football. 

 

 

 

He's clearly not ready now though, we see it every game. Flashes of brilliance with 80 minutes of losing the ball. It will get better with time and training, however there's no way he should be starting any important games over Palmer, Sterling or Nkunku out wide.

Have patience, its not going to change overnight.

6 hours ago, RIP Mourinho said:

He's clearly not ready now though, we see it every game. Flashes of brilliance with 80 minutes of losing the ball. It will get better with time and training, however there's no way he should be starting any important games over Palmer, Sterling or Nkunku out wide.

Have patience, its not going to change overnight.

It's a massive stretch to say we see flashes of brilliance every game from Mudryk.

I'm not sure we see much brilliance or talent from him at all 

People everywhere myself included panned Anthony Gordon when we were linked with him but he looks a much better prospect than Mudryk and you can see him developing as one.

Mudryk has 0 chance of ever being good enough to be a squad player at this level without improving his close control

14 hours ago, Whats_The_Mata? said:

It's a massive stretch to say we see flashes of brilliance every game from Mudryk.

I'm not sure we see much brilliance or talent from him at all 

People everywhere myself included panned Anthony Gordon when we were linked with him but he looks a much better prospect than Mudryk and you can see him developing as one.

Mudryk has 0 chance of ever being good enough to be a squad player at this level without improving his close control

Gordon is substantially better under Eddie Howe, now an ongoing threat instead of an undisciplined ratbag albeit it with potential. He was frequently a bench player at Everton. Put it down to game time, experience and, most of all, coaching. Give Mudryk the same and we'll see.

Denied a pretty obvious penalty last night v Italy. A night of bizarre penalties and non-penalties across the board.

4 hours ago, dermott said:

Denied a pretty obvious penalty last night v Italy. A night of bizarre penalties and non-penalties across the board.

5mins on the video:

 

8 hours ago, Backbiter said:

5mins on the video:

 

Corrupt UEFA. Can't have Italy missing out on another tournament. 

It's not just football clubs that need to be investigated, it's these people too.

Edited November 22, 20232 yr by Scott Harris

5 hours ago, Scott Harris said:

Corrupt UEFA. Can't have Italy missing out on another tournament. 

It's not just football clubs that need to be investigated, it's these people too.

If I am being entirely honest, Mudryk looked like he dived there and that was a theatrical fall. I understand why VAR did not overturn that.

2 hours ago, STATS said:

If I am being entirely honest, Mudryk looked like he dived there and that was a theatrical fall. I understand why VAR did not overturn that.

So just ignore the slow mo that shows 100% contact. easily enough to bring him down?

2 hours ago, STATS said:

If I am being entirely honest, Mudryk looked like he dived there and that was a theatrical fall. I understand why VAR did not overturn that.

It's the most clear pen I've seen in a while. 

That's a shocking decision.

Hard to argue that there aren't external influences at play when you see stuff like this going on ... 

2 hours ago, Sexyfootball said:

That's a shocking decision.

Hard to argue that there aren't external influences at play when you see stuff like this going on ... 

No more absurd than the penalty decisions in the England game where nothing was at stake. It's incompetence spreading like Covid.

16 hours ago, dkw said:

So just ignore the slow mo that shows 100% contact. easily enough to bring him down?

Clearly we are going to need to work on Mudryk about his diving too, get him to watch so 2000s Barca...lol

 

Ah you have been so mellow of late @dkw... I don't like it, something comforting about you giving someone both barrels...