Lamps saying the tie is not over. Guess technically he is right. We still have to lose at home.

Ancelotti is the real deal. Carlo and Lampard.  that would be perfect

10 hours ago, TheCeleryKing said:

Ancelotti is the real deal. Carlo and Lampard.  that would be perfect

Carlo just stated he is staying at Real assuming the board lets him stay. No team Brazil for him then.

I never rated Frank as a gaffer, not even when he was here and the fanbase was incredibly divided over his sacking. 

But to be fair, he had one training session for Wolves, and Real Madrid is Real Madrid. I'll see how we are against Brighton to assess if this is going to be a disastrous interim appointment just yet. 

3 minutes ago, Victor90 said:

I never rated Frank as a gaffer, not even when he was here and the fanbase was incredibly divided over his sacking. 

But to be fair, he had one training session for Wolves, and Real Madrid is Real Madrid. I'll see how we are against Brighton to assess if this is going to be a disastrous interim appointment just yet. 

Exactly, he shouldn't have had the time to dismantle the few things that were still good but he's somehow managed it.

12 minutes ago, Argo said:

Exactly, he shouldn't have had the time to dismantle the few things that were still good but he's somehow managed it.

What was good though Argo? I understand that the result didn't match the performance against Villa, but people forget how we survived games like Leicester and Leeds and could have easily bottled them. 

All in all, as much as some people don't want to believe it, we still weren't getting on the right track under Potter. 

But don't get me wrong, not saying it'll be better under Lampard. I thought this was a weird appointment, I'm happy we sacked Potter eventually, but I think Lampard was the last name on everyone's mind. I think we all expected someone with some good degree of experience to whip the players in some shape or form for the rest of the season. Or even someone to takeover now and onto the next season.  

2 minutes ago, Victor90 said:

What was good though Argo? I understand that the result didn't match the performance against Villa, but people forget how we survived games like Leicester and Leeds and could have easily bottled them. 

All in all, as much as some people don't want to believe it, we still weren't getting on the right track under Potter. 

But don't get me wrong, not saying it'll be better under Lampard. I thought this was a weird appointment, I'm happy we sacked Potter eventually, but I think Lampard was the last name on everyone's mind. I think we all expected someone with some good degree of experience to whip the players in some shape or form for the rest of the season. Or even someone to takeover now and onto the next season.  

We were defending pretty well for the most part and had the third (?) best defense in the league. Since the Fulham away game onwards I felt we were starting to control games a lot better (and the underlying metrics were looking good again) and the build up play in the first 2/3rds was starting to look very good I felt. Maybe Enzo played a bigger part in that than Potter but Lampard has Enzo avaliable to him aswell.

I get no one really wants to hear it when the results are what they were but that was the reason I was semi defending him at the end. I was getting pockets of hope/enjoyment from most games to pick out, can't really think of anything from Lampard's two games I can look at and say "I see something here". Even under Bruno we outplayed a team who then went on to outplay the league leaders (admittedly at home), even that feels a million miles away now.

2 minutes ago, Argo said:

We were defending pretty well for the most part and had the third (?) best defense in the league. Since the Fulham away game onwards I felt we were starting to control games a lot better (and the underlying metrics were looking good again) and the build up play in the first 2/3rds was starting to look very good I felt. Maybe Enzo played a bigger part in that than Potter but Lampard has Enzo avaliable to him aswell.

I get no one really wants to hear it when the results are what they were but that was the reason I was semi defending him at the end. I was getting pockets of hope/enjoyment from most games to pick out, can't really think of anything from Lampard's two games I can look at and say "I see something here". Even under Bruno we outplayed a team who then went on to outplay the league leaders (admittedly at home), even that feels a million miles away now.

I think you are massively exaggerating it if I'm being honest. Like I said I'm not just looking at results, if you watch the two games we won in Leicester and Leeds, you could argue we got lucky in both of them towards the end. They had their chances, Leicester especially and we could've easily bottled it. Mostly thanks to Potters mental subs. I thought both Dortmund games we were good though and should've won both based on performance.

We probably are going to look even worse under Lampard throughout the rest of the season. But I don't think that means we should've kept Potter, I think the owners should've sacked him earlier and we probably could've got someone decent in to see the rest of the season out. 

3 hours ago, Argo said:

We were defending pretty well for the most part and had the third (?) best defense in the league. Since the Fulham away game onwards I felt we were starting to control games a lot better (and the underlying metrics were looking good again) and the build up play in the first 2/3rds was starting to look very good I felt. Maybe Enzo played a bigger part in that than Potter but Lampard has Enzo avaliable to him aswell.

I get no one really wants to hear it when the results are what they were but that was the reason I was semi defending him at the end. I was getting pockets of hope/enjoyment from most games to pick out, can't really think of anything from Lampard's two games I can look at and say "I see something here". Even under Bruno we outplayed a team who then went on to outplay the league leaders (admittedly at home), even that feels a million miles away now.

I agree with you. And both games against Dortmund were very good games, we did deserve to go through and never deserved to lose away. I feel that had Potter been kept, the match at Madrid would have been very different, but it is useless to dwell on what can’t be undone. Looking forward (maybe not) to going tomorrow again to the Bridge.

32 minutes ago, RMH said:

I agree with you. And both games against Dortmund were very good games, we did deserve to go through and never deserved to lose away. I feel that had Potter been kept, the match at Madrid would have been very different, but it is useless to dwell on what can’t be undone. Looking forward (maybe not) to going tomorrow again to the Bridge.

We’d have lost 2-0 with dignity? 

Real is a level or 2 above Dortmound, I doubt Potter's presence would have made much difference based on his last CL outings. His last 2 games conceded 4 goals, so hardly rock solid defence, although we'd never know how he go against Real, don't think he will get a chance to do that anytime soon either. Lampard is in a no-win situation right now, unless he does something miraculous, even that he's still out at the end of the season.

Can we sack an interim? 😂

2 minutes ago, Zeta said:

Can we sack an interim? 😂

Lol looks likely at this rate.. absolutely clueless SFL today. Forgot to coach the team.

Pathetic, that’s my summation, he can’t even coach them to pass to each other…..

Blimey. 

Reading through the first page of this thread. 😞

Should never have been hired as interim!!!

I don't think we should wait till summer, even if we have to pay Nagelsmann extra we should get him in now

I love Frank, but a few things have to be said.

It was an appointment designed to pacify a disgruntled fanbase angry with how the season has transpired.

The appointment made no sense. He was literally sacked from Everton 2-3 months earlier. In what way apart from a ‘feel good’ factor was it palatable to bring him in.

The club would have been better off sticking with Potter until the end of the season and then making the decision to part ways if we couldn’t secure someone like Nagelsmann or Enrique immediately.

Just now, Jezz said:

I love Frank, but a few things have to be said.

It was an appointment designed to pacify a disgruntled fanbase angry with how the season has transpired.

The appointment made no sense. He was literally sacked from Everton 2-3 months earlier. In what way apart from a ‘feel good’ factor was it palatable to bring him in.

The club would have been better off sticking with Potter until the end of the season and then making the decision to part ways if we couldn’t secure someone like Nagelsmann or Enrique immediately.

Good post. 

But important to emphasise he's only doing as well as his abilities as a coach allow him to. 

This is on the collaborating galaxy brains running the club. 

Exactly what I most feared would happen, is happening. I hate that Frank is proving what a sh*t manager he is. 

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Hoping that next season we give him a job at the academy or something to save him from his inevitable dog sh*t managerial career. He is absolutely tactically inept.

I feel a bit sorry for Frank, he obviously thought he has nothing to lose by this appointment and he tried something different today that really backfired 

I fear it will do his managerial credentials no good at all now whatever happens 

I happen to think he did a reasonable job for us first time round 

Looking at your early threads this season, everything was Tuchels fault.
Later, everything was Potters fault.
Now, everything is Lampards fault.

Maybe at some point you'll have to start thinking about maybe the managers isn't the issue.

4 minutes ago, SwedishEntity said:

Looking at your early threads this season, everything was Tuchels fault.
Later, everything was Potters fault.
Now, everything is Lampards fault.

Maybe at some point you'll have to start thinking about maybe the managers isn't the issue.

Tuchel is the only elite coach out of the three you mentioned 

1 minute ago, Drogba1 said:

Tuchel is the only elite coach out of the three you mentioned 

That is obviously one opinion you could have.