2 hours ago, Drogba1 said:

Honestly a bit crazy to remember how much outrage there was over Lampard being sacked in 2021, in hindsight Roman absolutely made the correct decision

That much was clear as soon as Tuchel took over, we skyrocketed up and won the CL. It's amazing that the new owners gave this huge contract to potter, only to go for Lampard and not for another manager that is in a similar situation Tuchel was prior to becoming our manager when PSG sacked him.

6 minutes ago, Term_X said:

This is why Rio and many others stayed away from coaching and stuck to TV and media jobs, you’ve either got it.. or like Tuchel (who spent 7 years as a youth coach) you have to work at it in the shadows. Eddie Howe took time out to reflect and change his ways, in the dark ages you could retire and slip right into management if you had the personality for it, the game evolved and we’ll continue to see the likes of Gerrard, Frank, Vieira and Henry talk about “heart”, “passion” “play for shirt” “fight” etc etc.

 

Whilst I agree with most of your comment, I have to call out the terrible tweet aimed at Lampard. He’s been here 9 days, that’s 3 games, 3 recovery days and maximum 3 days training. Is he or anyone going to get a tactical master plan across to 30+ players in that amount of time? The answer is no. Lampards trying to impact what he can at this time which is the mental side, the effort, relying on the skills that world class players should have.

In the real world if you’re hired to a new role as a manager you lean on the team and their current skills and slowly make improvements, why is that any different in football? And why do twitter people think that takes 3 sessions 
 

Good to see Mudryk start to improve wonder if that is just down to time or Lampard who was good with the youngsters last time out?

I think some are being too harsh on Frank. Yes he’s not perfect but when a lot of the players know they will either be sold or want to leave, you’re not going to get the commitment. Plus, the league is done. Nothing to play for. Frank doesn’t have too much to work with. 
 

We just need to get to the end of the season, clear the deadwood and hope that the club make the right appointment that can sort this lot out. 

A couple points less and Frank could have been the first manager to get two teams relegated in the same season

Lampard still in football management is mental. It’s like a surgeon who’s lost 90% of his patients on the operating table being asked to perform surgery on the king or me suddenly offering to fly a 747 full of passengers across the Atlantic.

Potter obviously had problems, but he’ll always have a good record at Brighton. Lampard as a manager has absolutely nothing. 

I don’t believe, given the unique circumstances and time of the season that many managers would get a tune out of this squad. 
 

The team are done. They want their summer holIdays and to get away. They’re not interested. Lampard said it himself - they didn’t work hard enough, put the tackles in. 
 

On the beach. 

I was actually trying to find some form of optimism in Frank coming in and maybe just going, f**k it, let's attack and get some goals. But nevermind, only Frank could make this even worse. 

The Villa game that sealed Potter’s fate starting to look like a golden age of sexy football .

53 minutes ago, JM7 said:

I don’t believe, given the unique circumstances and time of the season that many managers would get a tune out of this squad. 
 

The team are done. They want their summer holIdays and to get away. They’re not interested. Lampard said it himself - they didn’t work hard enough, put the tackles in. 
 

On the beach. 

Ffs Bruno Salter on his only game coaching us got the team to batter Liverpool tactically and in play, they only were saved from a thrashing by our dreadful finishing.

1 minute ago, RMH said:

Ffs Bruno Salter on his only game coaching us got the team to batter Liverpool tactically and in play, they only were saved from a thrashing by our dreadful finishing.

My guess would be that Bruno used Potters tactical preparation file which would have been prepared the week before.

1 hour ago, Snedger said:

Lampard still in football management is mental. It’s like a surgeon who’s lost 90% of his patients on the operating table being asked to perform surgery on the king or me suddenly offering to fly a 747 full of passengers across the Atlantic.

Potter obviously had problems, but he’ll always have a good record at Brighton. Lampard as a manager has absolutely nothing. 

I don't agree with this last part.

I don't think Lampard is a top coach, maybe not even good enough for the Premier League yet, but to say he has nothing as a coach is just unfair. I have seen so many coaches over the years get sacked from one job only to end up at another and I never see people say "He's not cut out to be a manager". Lampard's win rate isn't much different than countless other coaches that have managed in football. He almost got Derby promoted to the Premier League, almost won the FA cup with us and got us a top 4 spot in a season where everybody had us finishing mid table. He has some achievements to his name that most won't achieve in their whole career. He saved Everton from relegation last season in a season where veteran coach Rafa Benitez would have almost certainly got them relegated had he stayed. I don't see anybody saying Benitez shouldn't have been a coach. I didn't even see Steve Bruce get this kind of treatment and he has had an abysmal career as a coach.

One thing I do think is fair to say is that he has had too many big jobs too soon.

Edited April 15, 20233 yr by Scott Harris

I think the Board brought in Lampard as an interim because they like him, he’s a club legend, it would appease the fans, and no one else would do the job. The fact that he can’t manage his way out of a paper bag never occurred to them. 

It’s just one cock up after another. Potter should’ve gone months ago. A decent manager would’ve turned this lot around by now. Utter shambles. 

 

6 hours ago, Snedger said:

Lampard still in football management is mental. It’s like a surgeon who’s lost 90% of his patients on the operating table being asked to perform surgery on the king or me suddenly offering to fly a 747 full of passengers across the Atlantic.

Potter obviously had problems, but he’ll always have a good record at Brighton. Lampard as a manager has absolutely nothing. 

Lampard finished higher than Potter ever has in the league. Achieved top 4 whilst blooding the youth.

So don't agree with the absolutely nothing bit

6 hours ago, Dean said:

The Villa game that sealed Potter’s fate starting to look like a golden age of sexy football .

We played well against villa. Of course mistakes led to goals,  but the overall way we played and created chances was decent. A genuine positive step.

Short term charlie's however only see the result and not the context or bigger picture.

I am quite confused what do people expect lamp to do.Only Madrid game is important, brighton game was a nothing game. 

Some people said we should just continue with 343. If we want to win now, 343 is the way to go, we did play 343/352 against Madrid. But for the future? Nope. 

We have signed player to play 4231/433, there is no point of going back to 343 and waste all of these players.

 

 

 

10 hours ago, Term_X said:

This is why Rio and many others stayed away from coaching and stuck to TV and media jobs, you’ve either got it.. or like Tuchel (who spent 7 years as a youth coach) you have to work at it in the shadows. Eddie Howe took time out to reflect and change his ways, in the dark ages you could retire and slip right into management if you had the personality for it, the game evolved and we’ll continue to see the likes of Gerrard, Frank, Vieira and Henry talk about “heart”, “passion” “play for shirt” “fight” etc etc.

 

Yes coaching is a huge element otherwise you would just pick your best 11 and say go out and put the ball in the net, like Sunday league pub teams.

But just like those Sunday league teams, if you don’t have everyone trying you’re on the back foot.

Too many players walking allowing Brighton to waltz through from their defenders to our final third.

I’m not for one second suggesting Lampard is an elite coach and is the answer to our problems, but he can’t do too much with regard to players effort on the pitch.

I’ve read someone else say the players don’t give a toss anymore until the new manager comes in, clean slate and all that…..it’s horrible to say but some of them clearly don’t give a f**k about the club, Lampard or the fans.

With that mentality and application the team is going nowhere particularly when the going gets tough and you need players to do the basics, run and fight.

@Scott Harris and @nonotnowjim, fair reaction. It was a bit hard on Frank to say he’s got nothing. He had a decent season with us and he’s certainly on a par with dozens of other managers that ride the merry-go-round.

I am just very frustrated with everything Chelsea now and can’t see any good in any of it.

5 hours ago, nonotnowjim said:

We played well against villa. Of course mistakes led to goals,  but the overall way we played and created chances was decent. A genuine positive step.

Short term charlie's however only see the result and not the context or bigger picture.

Hahaha laughable .. potter had more points than goal and almost more matches than points .. he was dreadful here his decision making is still costing us.. the big picture is Potter was as awful as lamps and absolutely deserved to be sacked.

5 hours ago, nonotnowjim said:

Lampard finished higher than Potter ever has in the league. Achieved top 4 whilst blooding the youth.

So don't agree with the absolutely nothing bit

Meant to put this in this thread, but I don't get the people saying Lampard is a sh*t coach. I'm genuinely curious why, because people act like he's got zero idea. Jody Morris was his assistant most of the time and Jody led the youth team to a lot of success at Chelsea. That must be that Jody is a terrible coach/tactician too then. 

13 hours ago, Blueboys said:

Whilst I agree with most of your comment, I have to call out the terrible tweet aimed at Lampard. He’s been here 9 days, that’s 3 games, 3 recovery days and maximum 3 days training. Is he or anyone going to get a tactical master plan across to 30+ players in that amount of time? The answer is no. Lampards trying to impact what he can at this time which is the mental side, the effort, relying on the skills that world class players should have.

In the real world if you’re hired to a new role as a manager you lean on the team and their current skills and slowly make improvements, why is that any different in football? And why do twitter people think that takes 3 sessions 
 

Lets not put facts in the way, too much emotion and zero logic from people. Not sure what they expect with barely any time in charge ffs. I didn't agree with Potter being sacked as things were starting to improve a little, but the fans are too impatient as usual. The same with Tuchel, people were calling for him to go as things weren't going well. 

1 win in 4 for Bayern Munich since Tuchel took over there. Where is WWWW? Surely Tuchel's magic wand should have been in action immediately after joining Bayern.

13 hours ago, JM7 said:

I don’t believe, given the unique circumstances and time of the season that many managers would get a tune out of this squad. 
 

The team are done. They want their summer holIdays and to get away. They’re not interested. Lampard said it himself - they didn’t work hard enough, put the tackles in. 
 

On the beach. 

I was at the Bridge when we played Dortmund. Weren't too bad that night.

52 minutes ago, Jangz said:

Hahaha laughable .. potter had more points than goal and almost more matches than points .. he was dreadful here his decision making is still costing us.. the big picture is Potter was as awful as lamps and absolutely deserved to be sacked.

Exactly the type of short-term, instant results thinking I am talking about.

If you couldn't see the foundations being laid, and the incremental improvements then that is a "you" problem.

1 hour ago, nonotnowjim said:

Exactly the type of short-term, instant results thinking I am talking about.

If you couldn't see the foundations being laid, and the incremental improvements then that is a "you" problem.

What foundations are you talking about?? We aren’t the first team to undergo a “transition”.. I can’t remember any other team being closed to relegation as they do it.. Pool sacked Woy, United sacked Moyes.. ArsenaL sacked emery.. they all took the right decision just like we did..

potter was inept in all departments. He made some lame tactical decisions, horrendous subs.. the squad needed a striker and he couldn’t convince the board for a striking option.. so clearly he had little to no boardroom influence either..

this narrative that some like you are trying to peddle is devoid of any logic. We had games where we created a lot of chances under Tuchel too.. so I don’t understand this improvement.
1. He had no tactical consistency.. playing odd formations every two matches 

2. 7 months into the job couldn’t decide a best first 11.

3. Had no influence on the board to actually use the transfer market to address squad deficiencies 

4. made horrendous subs and had no mentality. Didn’t win a single match against teams above us in the table and we were fckin 8th

5. Not a single player improved or showed any confidence 

i am glad that very few people for some strange still think potter shouldn’t have been sacked so this is not my problem since majority actually understand this and so did the board.

the fact that you would rather hold on to a belief which no facts can prove is a “you” problem.