We’re going for McKenna!

19 minutes ago, dansubrosa said:

 

We’re going for McKenna!

For f**ks sake

8 hours ago, nonotnowjim said:

Almost zero chance of that. The club have a vision with these players, and the managers role is to get a tune out of them, and build a system that suits them.

It is far cheaper to change a manager than it is a squad full of players.  So the manager adjusts.

Then it is difficult to do any identity. We saw it with TT. He inherit chaotic squad under Lamp, he just say F this squad and played 343.

You talked about pep or Klopp establish identity. Klopp and pep or even Arteta got into a team, change pretty much every single player (except pep with aguero, kdb, silva, sterling)

 

Edited May 22, 20242 yr by Bob stark

1 hour ago, dansubrosa said:

At least we can rule out Thomas Frank now. Thankfully…

Thomas Frank is very good. 

I rather have Frank than manager like kompany

Edited May 22, 20242 yr by Bob stark

1 hour ago, just said:

I'm so excited Eddie Howe is going to be our next manager. Young but with bags of experience. A calm personality never seems flustered. Communicates brilliantly. The media love him. Mixes it up tactically. Good at working wid da yoofs. Knows what is like to work with a nightmare injury list and can still keep a greatly reduced squad together and competing. Made Joelinton look like a footballer. Has brought on Antony Gordon in leaps and bounds.

OK he hasn't won a major trophy yet but it's only a matter of time. He's gonna be brilliant. Welcome Eddie.

Not sure going to Chelsea from Newcastle is an upgrade 

f**k knows anymore.

I am curious how the players feel at the moment because when you sign for this club there's a history of winning and playing under top managers. Not to say Mckenna can't do well for us but the more this ownership take risks the higher chance they upset the squad more.

Some of the players we bought probably could have had their pick of clubs under top managers and sometimes I feel they have been conned into a project. Also when Todd talks about them he sees them as investments more than players. Surely reading that can't be healthy for a player and it also goes to show you that when that investment pays off (Palmer) he maybe happy to sell.

 

1 hour ago, dansubrosa said:

 

We’re going for McKenna!

Well so says that Jurno. Who's to say he was not paid to spread that rumour ?

I wonder if there is someone on the forum ready to hit the enter button on changing their user name to

 

Times Up McKenna/RDZ/Maresca/Zeta etc

 

;)

2 hours ago, Bob stark said:

Then it is difficult to do any identity. We saw it with TT. He inherit chaotic squad under Lamp, he just say F this squad and played 343.

You talked about pep or Klopp establish identity. Klopp and pep or even Arteta got into a team, change pretty much every single player (except pep with aguero, kdb, silva, sterling)

 

It's the opposite.

There is more than 1 way to skin a cat.

The team can have an identity - and the managers job is to come in an implement it, with a  few tweaks here and there. 

This gets us away from the need to overhaul every time the manager changes.

McKenna is just Potter v2 a disaster waiting to happen wtf is wrong with this mob

2 hours ago, axman2526 said:

Well so says that Jurno. Who's to say he was not paid to spread that rumour ?

Journos at reputable newspapers have standards. Thats one reason why people pay for subs, it's quality control although I guess a bit less in football journalism. I personally pay quite material subs for the telegraph, economist, new york times and others. People  who put out youtube videos have zero quality control and are incentivised to exaggerate, it's how the echo chamber works. Personally I think it results in a lot of BS been taken as fact. However there are no doubt some good sources out there and some bad journos as well.

52 minutes ago, nonotnowjim said:

It's the opposite.

There is more than 1 way to skin a cat.

The team can have an identity - and the managers job is to come in an implement it, with a  few tweaks here and there. 

This gets us away from the need to overhaul every time the manager changes.

Not sure Bob has any concept of a manager who has his own ideas but also that those ideas are compatible with owners. Equally that owners have their own ideas and philosophy but end up trusting the manager. Ultimately Poch and the owners didn't see eye to eye. That happens, no drama no loss of face by anyone. Time for a new relationship.

8 hours ago, dan_cfc said:

How has it come to some of the sh*te we’ve been linked to, we should be linked to the best In the world not f**king championship managers.

Championship managers are the new fetish. Everyone wants them including Bayern and Utd. Even Pool signed someone from the Dutch league. 

I'm honestly in disbelife, I go back 20 years (feck 20 years) and we are parting ways with Claudio, the bookies had us linked with Lipi, Cappelo. Dechamp who had just taken Monoco to a CL final and spanked us on the way, and we ended up getting the best manager in the world bar non at that time. 

 

Now its a toss up between championship managers, and a brighton blow out... Scott Parker has a few promotions under his belt, why don't we just grab him. Dean Richards got villa promoted.. 

absalout shock... the thing about Klopp when he came in is he was an undoubted success at every club he'd been at. It wasn't just about a young manager for the sake of a young manager. 

10 hours ago, Nick05 said:

So we've gone from Europe's elite to championship level. Won't be surprised if egghead and co. go knocking on the doors of league one managers next season.

Hoping for a German Manager. Hopefully a new cult hero like Klopp, Tuchel. 

Hoeneß would be my favo pick. 

As a Belgian guy, seeing how horrible his spell was at Anderlecht. I do not hope Kompany. 

He still needs time to get better. 

I don't watch the Championship, so I can't judge those managers, but when I saw the budget of Ipswich (which was ones of the lowest in the competition -15th.) and then the one from Leicester (PSG budget in the championship). Then Ipswich was pretty impressive and Leicester more to be expected. 

I don't understand any votes for TT coming back. Yes we won the CL under him, but I was never a fan of his style and his behaviour at times.

Being a local Ipswich resident, McKenna may be a risk but he has everything needed to be successful. He is a true modern manager with great emotional intelligence, and he has a fantastic relationship with the players, which to me is far important to our current youthful squad than someone who has won trophies.

Our squad is nearly there, we have so much potential and I believe McKenna could unlock that.

Edited May 23, 20242 yr by Malcolm9

McKenna is looking likely based on reports. Interesting candidate especially since Potter didn't work the last time they did this.

7 hours ago, axman2526 said:

I wonder if there is someone on the forum ready to hit the enter button on changing their user name to

 

Times Up McKenna/RDZ/Maresca/Zeta etc

 

😉

I see what you did there

I’ve read about McKenna and his style is different. For example Southampton hit the top charts for short passing, bottom for long passing. Same with Watford with long passing and short.

McKenna’s Ipswich are middle of the table for everything - Short passing, long passing, take ons etc. So Ipswich have a great flexibility when they attack, they can build up slowly or play direct.

Here is the video 

 

5 hours ago, ozboy said:

Not sure Bob has any concept of a manager who has his own ideas but also that those ideas are compatible with owners. Equally that owners have their own ideas and philosophy but end up trusting the manager. Ultimately Poch and the owners didn't see eye to eye. That happens, no drama no loss of face by anyone. Time for a new relationship.

I agree with you, the board want to go different way than the manager so they have a divorce, I have no problem with that. 

This is not what discussion all about. @nonotnowjim want a manager to establish an identity . 

It doesn't matter what identity or style. It is difficult to find style that fit player who require different system and characteristic to perform. Enzo is probably better at more possesion based style whereas Mudyrk is better of at direct style.

The manager can also think 343 is the best way. Can the manager bin all the wingers? 

If the answer is no and the SD want the players that rhy bought to play then establishing identity is impossible. 

 

 

Edited May 23, 20242 yr by Bob stark

The club seem to want to do management by committee. That never works well. 
 

Also, they seem to think that they can simply get a young manager in and support/nurture them to become elite level manager. When has that ever been done before? History has shown that managers are either elite or they’re not. In the elite end of sport or any business, it is about talent. You either have it or you don’t. You simply can’t “coach” someone to be elite. It’s a strange approach. 

Is it time for McKenna?

 

1 minute ago, Gordon Bennett said:

Is it time for McKenna?

 

Spent 10+ years at Tottenham, and is a Manchester United fan.

Perfect for us LOL !

If it is RDZ i don't understand why we wouldn't have announced it yet. We're not in any competition and he's left Brighton. 

Makes more sense that he's going Utd and they're keeping it under wraps until after the FA cup final.