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Torres - The "Groundhog Day" Thread

Torres: stay or go? 226 members have voted

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Not being funny, but Drogba was a terrible diver, and I'm surprised anyone can argue with that. Greatest Chelsea striker since Dixon, but he would fall over at a gust of wind, and it was even more noticeable considering how much power he has.

 

Yes but we weren't complaining against Barca, in the 1st leg.

 

All the time he was on the floor we were getting a breather, and he must have been on the floor for about 20 minutes.

 

Legend.

 

So in an 8 year Chelsea career you've found 3 clips one of which is him playing in a pre-season friendly for Galatasaray? 

 

Edit:

 

And the other two clips, one was against Barca who are known for their play acting and dissent to referees and Drogba was a master of winding up the opposition and was doing this to time waste for us and to rile them up.

Edited by ForeverCarefree

Of course people weren't happy and waiting for him to have another sh*t game, what a stupid statement to make (whoever made it earlier). But it's just the same thing over and over and over again. A few decent performances where he runs around like a bat out of hell, maybe scores a goal or 2. Then he goes right back to awful movement, abysmal finishing that would embarrass a non-league player, and just general pouting and arm flailing.

We have given him SO MUCH TIME. It's been f**king 3 years of this and he's still getting paid in excess of 150k per week and playing loads of games. It's insane. He will never be the player he was, I just wish the club would give up and get rid of him and sign someone who will score us goals.

Yes, Torres runs around chasing the ball.. so what? I could do that. You could do that. We could sign bloody Grant Holt to do that. The whole point of the striker is to score goals, and he is not, has not ever, and most likely will not ever, do that for us.

Sums up my feelings perfectly.

So in an 8 year Chelsea career you've found 3 clips one of which is him playing in a pre-season friendly for Galatasaray? 

 

Nope, more like in the 2 and a half minutes I could be arsed to look, I very easily found 3 clips of him diving.

 

The point wasn't however that I was trying to run down the Drog, the lad was an absolute legend and I think we'll be lucky to find anyone to fill his enormous boots. I just don't see the point in claiming he didn't dive, when he dived on a regular basis to the extent where it was even irritating to me as a Chelsea fan.

 

Yes but we weren't complaining against Barca, in the 1st leg.

 

All the time he was on the floor we were getting a breather, and he must have been on the floor for about 20 minutes.

 

Legend.

 

Yep, no complaints from me that day. :biggrin:

Edited by Kentonio

Drogba got kicked in the leg against barca, over acting it isn't diving.

 

There is pretty much always contact and drogba over acts it. That isn't diving. You get ignored by refs if you don't play it up. Else you get kicked in the chest and get a yellow card for it.

 

He aint a diver.

Even Jose admitted it.

 

“I am no longer Chelsea coach, and I do not have to defend them any more, but I think it is correct if I say Drogba is a diver,” said Mourinho. “Drogba, Ronaldo, Torres and Van Persie are the divers. Who dives more? Who has won more penalties in recent years? But English football is the one that criticises the divers the most.

First and foremost, I absolutely f**king love Didier Drogba. The man was and is a hero in every possible way, on and off the field.

He was a bit of a diver, however, its indisputable really. Not that he was much different to 95% of other footballers of today....he made an absolute meal out of any contact in the back, the slightest clip and he would throw himself to the ground and roll about and then get a bit of 'treatment', before limping about for a few seconds then sprinting away. Just like Ronaldo etc did. Those guys get highlighted the most because they are big strong men who in real life wouldn't be knocked over that easily if they weren't playing football.

I even remember Terry having a go at him to get up. It was a bit embarrassing at times.

I don't really give a sh*t though, he will always be a hero of mine.

Above all he capitalised on the slightest bit contact to win free kicks. Some don't call it diving or cheating because he didn't go down without ANY contact, but its all the same to me really.

I don't ever recall him ever doing an Ashley Young, Phil Neville, Petterson type dive though...

Anyone who says Drogba wasn't a diver doesn't want to admit it. Legend, but he was hardly a saint on the pitch.

 

Definition thing. Diving no. Feigning injury to make contact look worse then yes, unarguable.

Have to disagree with Drogba not being a diver. Top top player but he was a diver. But anyways not sure why this is being discussed. 

 

 

Spot on Zola. By that measure we may as well have Ramires as striker.

 

 

this. lol. Willian would do as well. 

Edited by MANoWAR

Some of you people love arguing so much that you would even go out of your way to post video f**king evidence of one of our legends diving just to make YOUR POINT. Shame on you, go support Arsenal you judas.

To be fair, he was asked to provide evidence, and he did... Then people have a go at him for providing evidence...

I always thought Drogba's diving was somewhat redeemed by the fact that he was so horrendously bad at it. He couldn't just slump onto the floor like a normal person, there was always a mid-air flourish and a pain-stricken face along with it which made it really obvious he was diving. That said, I always considered it an extremely small blemish on the profile of an otherwise magnificent player and man.

Edited by PloKoon13

I always thought Drogba's diving was somewhat redeemed by the fact that he was so horrendously bad at it. He couldn't just slump onto the floor like a normal person, there was always a mid-air flourish and a pain-stricken face along with it which made it really obvious he was diving.

 

You're missing the point, PloKoon. He wasn't bad at it at all, he was just after a comedy award. Drogba was greatly influenced by the slapstick comedians of yore and he didn't get the credit he deserved. Watch the third clip Kentonio posted and tell me it doesn't make you guffaw. Comedy gold.

 

 

It would be so refreshing to actually buy a striker who can be prolific here, instead of paying out 10's of millions on a striker that can't do jack in front of goal.

Fair enough, but why would one want to dog off one of our own anyways? I just find it a strange way to support a team.

 

I think we must have very different definitions of 'dog off' then.

 

Shame on you, go support Arsenal you judas.

 

Nah, I stayed true blue through a relegation, a promotion, a Fat Spanish Waiter and even the '95 away kit, so I think I'll stick with them for a while yet. ;)

Is Eto'o even fit? Cos if he isn't, I have no doubt Torres will start against Stoke on Saturday, because Jose seems to rate him ahead of Ba at any rate. I can't understand why, I think Ba has actually impressed the few minutes he's played. He's certainly scored more than Torres has recently and has looked the more likely to when he's been on the pitch. That having been said, the game last night was by far the poorest performance Torres has put in this season so far, because everything that had gone before was decent to outstanding, especially the games against Spurs and City.

 

I have to agree about Lukaku though. He must have wondered where he was going wrong to be sent out on loan in favour of three strikers who weren't scoring anything like as regularly as he was. I actually do still believe he would have stayed had he scored that penalty to win us the Super Cup.

 

Anything he says about us now while at Everton might reek of bitterness but I don't exactly blame him, really. He probably can't figure out what he needs to do to be given a chance with us.

I have to agree about Lukaku though. He must have wondered where he was going wrong to be sent out on loan in favour of three strikers who weren't scoring anything like as regularly as he was. I actually do still believe he would have stayed had he scored that penalty to win us the Super Cup.

 

Anything he says about us now while at Everton might reek of bitterness but I don't exactly blame him, really. He probably can't figure out what he needs to do to be given a chance with us.

 

Didnt he ask for a loan move?

To be fair, he was asked to provide evidence, and he did... Then people have a go at him for providing evidence...

 

Also, to be fair, the "evidence" provided isn't worth a w**k.  Just because some muppet puts up a youtube and titles it "Drogba's outrageous Dive" or some d**khead scouse "pundit" claims it was a dive, doesn't make it so, Mr Sulu.  None of those three showed the absolute dive that we see so regularly from Young and Suarez, where there is no contact whatsoever, and they even go out of their way to make it look like there was.  Drogba was the master at exaggerating minimal contact, but there was contact in all three videos posted.

 

I still say, there is no "evidence" of Drogba going over without any contact whatsoever,

 

Now, if the original Judas, as he has been called, wanted to make the point about Robben in his days here, or even Essien the other day, I would have struggled to argue, but buying into the opposition fans/media mindset is just wrong, in my opinion.

Oi, you can stick that 'Judas' crap right up your arse. I wouldn't go on RAWK or Red Cafe and start talking about how Drogba was a diver, and I probably wouldn't even have mentioned it here except that someone stated categorically that 'Drogba wasn't a diver'.

 

I've bled blue for the last 33 years, but that doesn't mean I can't see and accept negatives in our own players games, and if we can't even mention/discuss them between ourselves then that just seems insane to me.

 

Absolutely mindblowing that despite calling him the 'Greatest Chelsea striker since Dixon' in the very same post, I'm getting called a judas. ::clap2::

Not sure what Suarez has to do with anything. Torres resembled a Conference player tonight, and that's being kind to him. Sadly, it's what we've become used to, prior to Jose. Everyone goes nuts when he puts in a half-decent performance, but let's be honest, even when he's good, there are strikers putting in far better performances week-in week-out, and one of them belongs to us.

 

Yes his finishing and touch were bad tonight, and he lost possession countless times, but the thing that really gets me is his abject movement. I hope someone posts a video of Hazard's touches against Sunderland, because it will allow me to illustrate. I've seen five year olds with better movement, and I'm not kidding.

 

We were playing without a centre-forward, and I'm afraid, over the course of a season, performances like that from our striker will cost us the title. Lampard had a great game tonight, as did Ramires, Willian was tidy and Mata linked the play superbly, and Hazard was just sublime.

 

Torres was up against the likes of Wes Brown and John O'Shea. Put a decent striker up top and it will make all the difference.

 

Eto'o is by the superior striker IMO, he's been coming into his own and he's looking good, as he gets to grips with the Prem. His scoring record isn't bad, considering his starts. He gives you touch, movement, hold-up play, link-up play and he puts in a shift, and he gives you the odd bit of class. Sure, Torres has the odd good day, but you'll never see Eto'o play half as badly as he did tonight.

 

I'm not saying Eto'o is the second coming, I'm just putting things in perspective.

 

Edit: Simply unacceptable from my point of view, and I hope Jose makes him watch the video. He did almost everything wrong.

 

Not to add fuel to the fire and all that but I think this is what you were looking for.

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=63GP2fBknV0

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