jose will f**k chelsea again and again and again until the pathetic owner get down on his knees and say i quit

Is that the pathetic owner who has injected millions of his own money into your club?

Fancy swapping with our leaches of owners?

Is that the pathetic owner who has injected millions of his own money into your club?

Fancy swapping with our leaches of owners?

As part of interview on sky, not only has Jose said he's staying in England, in other words, going to Utd, he talks about what he thinks let chelsea down this season...can't disagree, despite it not being only problem:

"If you are in a club that wins, if you want to win again, you have to create instability in the winners," said the 53-year-old when asked about facing new challenges in his career.

"To do this, you have to make them doubt, you have to buy new players, you have to take them outside their comfort zone because if you win, there is a normal tendency to go to a comfort zone."

Unfortunately Jose's way of creating insecurity turned the players against him. He needs to learn to do it which doesn't alienate them.

The attack attack attack chant is going to fall on deaf ears

 

I hate that chant so much, its so stupid and annoying

Edited February 7, 201610 yr by jack_super_class

Unfortunately Jose's way of creating insecurity turned the players against him. He needs to learn to do it which doesn't alienate them.

Jose means you keep improving the squad even when you win the league, you always improve. That clearly didn't happen in the summer. Man Utd use to do always do it.

Unfortunately Jose's way of creating insecurity turned the players against him. He needs to learn to do it which doesn't alienate them.

Had we backed him with new signings he wanted it wouldnt have mattered if he alienated players because hed have someone to replace them.

Jose going to United is going both end badly for us on the field and make the club look like buffoons for how they have treated him

José was too quick to get rid of players we should have kept. Those players have gone on to strengthen rivals. The decision to let those players go is unforgivable. Luiz, mata, lukaku and de bruyne could have still been here now.

Maybe if we had of kept them we would have won the league in first season instead of struggling and claiming we were the "little horse" in the title race. Then we go into the following season and bring in a couple more players. We had a strike force that was useless but decide to let a very talented young striker in lukaku go to everton. You can't be blaming lack of strikers if you let the best ones leave the club.

Unfortunately there was a scarcity of top players available to us the summer gone so upgrading too much was going to be difficult. It's still a lame excuse to place blame on players and bringing more players in when we damn well shouldn't be languishing in relegation zone with that squad. José done f**ked up this season.

Edited February 7, 201610 yr by enigma

Since we are making assumptions about the future, can I say Pep going to City is also going to end badly for Utd?.

José was too quick to get rid of players we should have kept. Those players have gone on to strengthen rivals. The decision to let those players go is unforgivable. Luiz, mata, lukaku and de bruyne could have still been here now.

Maybe if we had of kept them we would have won the league in first season instead of struggling and claiming we were the "little horse" in the title race. Then we go into the following season and bring in a couple more players. We had a strike force that was useless but decide to let a very talented young striker in lukaku go to everton. You can't be blaming lack of strikers if you let the best ones leave the club.

Unfortunately there was a scarcity of top players available to us the summer gone so upgrading too much was going to be difficult. It's still a lame excuse to place blame on players and bringing more players in when we damn well shouldn't be languishing in relegation zone with that squad. José done f**ked up this season.

 

I agree, except Luiz. David Luiz demonstrated many times he was a terrible defender.

Enigma and JM7 you're posts are spot on, I couldn't agree more.

50m for Luiz was mint tho.

I fully expect Jose to oust Mata and any other utd creative talent. If I see Jose play mata and utd play a good brand of winning football, he will be dead to me.

You can say Jose didn't get backed and that the players betrayed him but ultimately this all falls on Jose's head. He was a failure this season.

we were playing luiz in midfield and he seemed content to do so. we really could have kept him and played him as centre mid to give us that extra steel in midfield. we are now talking about none of our centre mids being good enough, so makes you wonder what the point of getting rid of was.

Luiz didn't want to play in centre mid and without his sale we wouldn't have got the players in who helped win us the league last season...I rate Mata, certainly over Oscar, but he's hardly pulled up any trees at Utd...de bruyne has talent for sure, but like Mata, disappears when games are going awry...only player I really regret losing is lukaku, but once we signed Costa, he wasn't going to start many and asked to leave...

You can't just skip past winning two trophies last season and now moan with hindsight over players we let go...the biggest mistake out of the two was not buying last summer from a position of strength

Jose's legacy with us is dying... It's so damn sad. Two of my buddies (fellow CFC fans) are already saying that they hate him. They think he wanted to get fired on purpose so he could oust Van Gaal at United. It's total BS but I can't convince them otherwise. They can't believe that a world class manager like Mourinho would allow us to fall into a relegation battle, they think it had to be deliberate. What they don't seem to realise is that we're still playing poor (in my opinion) even without Jose as our manager. I'm not saying that Mourinho wasn't partially to blame, but I think the players must stand up and take responsibility for this mess first and foremost.

 

To me, he'll always be one of us, no matter what.

who would we have bought in though to strengthen? we already had most areas covered. jose seems to be implying if we had bought we would have done better, but the truth is we still had a strong enough squad to have been in a better position than we are. going by this season both spurs and leicester have spent nowhere near us and they're higher up the league, and so are arsenal and utd. the people we had been linked with in  the summer were unattainable/happy at their clubs. we started losing our form at the beginning of last year and it never recovered for whatever reason and truth is jose should have had us near the top four with that team we have. 

Edited February 7, 201610 yr by enigma

jose will f**k chelsea again and again and again until the pathetic owner get down on his knees and say i quit

 

Without that "pathetic owner", Jose Mourinho would never have been our manager in the fast place, remember that next time you have a hissy fit.

With the assumption that Jose ends up at Utd and with Pep at City, the war chest of each will be phenomenal and on an unprecedented scale of which we have never seen in the Premier League; all of which has come at the wrong time for Roman who is about to heavily invest in a stadium leaving the team with the crumbs, left overs and the pocket change to challenge for the title, at least the next 5 years.  It would not surprise me if we are languishing in or around places 4-8 in the foreseeable future with Utd and City sweeping up the major trophies along the way.

As for Mourinho managing United, I think most of us called it the second he parted company from Chelsea.

 

On the most part it seems to fit both parties.

Regardless of how decorated Jose is, when you actually sit and think about it, there are very few clubs that would both want him  and that he would actually be willing to manage. The likes of Bayern, PSG, City have not come knocking and have chosen gone down different paths. Real Madrid have opted not to give it a second try. Who does that actually leave that Jose would be willing to manage? I think it's safe to say that after the way he left Chelsea, he is going to be looking to win, and win fast, and to do that he will want an elite club with big resources. 

 

Enter Manchester United. 

 

The funny thing is that according to most United fans, United "turned him down" when Ferguson left. We can all remember why they apparently  turned him down as well- negative, boring football, no class, awful PR, didn't suit the "united way", was a master of the dark arts, no longevity in any of is previous roles, wouldn't last, generally a nasty piece of work who would bring shame to United. 

 

So, "what has changed??" I hear you cry??

 

Quite simply, a few years of not being very good, that's what. 

 

I know a few United fans and the ones I know are desperate for Jose Mourinho,  just to get back to the top. Moyes was needless to say a catastrophic failure and LVG really hasn't been much better if we are being honest. They have had huge investment and won nothing whilst playing arguably the most boring football of any team in the league- that's the reality of the situation for United fans. All the while City are looking like the new force to be reckoned with as they appoint the much sought after Pep Guardiola.

 

United are desperate, desperate for success, and I believe the club will be willing to "sell its soul" for a return of short term success. And history tells us that's exactly what it will be- short term. 

 

I love Mourinho, always have, and didn't want him to be sacked. Let me just say that now. 

That doesn't, however, change the fact that despite delivering trophies in the process, he failed, very badly, at his attempt to build a long lasting dynasty at Chelsea in his second stint here. Was it all his fault? No, but he still takes his share of the blame and when you look at the antics off the pitch, the terrible PR, the apparent dressing room collapse and the overall league position he left us in, he has to take a large slice of it. Just like he takes his large slice when it all goes right. 

 

Roman Abramovich clearly didn't want to sack Mourinho this time. He game him a lot more time than he has ever given any manager previously despite our situation being twice as bad, farcically bad, let's be honest. I didn't want him sacked, but I understood why he was- we were in complete free fall and Jose looked like he had no answer. Homes losses to teams like Bournemouth were not even that shocking by the end. It was depressing to see what Jose had become given he didn't lose a home league game in over 3 seasons in his first stint. It was like watching a 'past his best' Mike Tyson get knocked about by a young, opportunist but inferior boxer who wouldn't have lasted 1 round against Tyson in his prime. 

The point is I believe the fans and the owner wanted him to make this work, but it didn't.... not in the long term. 

 

Will it hurt seeing Jose inevitably lift the Premiership trophy with United? Yes, yes it will. 

 

Will be be there for more than 3 years and build a dynasty at United? No, no he won't. 

Great posts CFCCAN and Mclovin83. I only vaguely know two ManU supporters and they are beyond excited at the thought of Jose.

How can you turn 50m down for that clown, CB or CM

As for Mourinho managing United, I think most of us called it the second he parted company from Chelsea.

 

On the most part it seems to fit both parties.

Regardless of how decorated Jose is, when you actually sit and think about it, there are very few clubs that would both want him  and that he would actually be willing to manage. The likes of Bayern, PSG, City have not come knocking and have chosen gone down different paths. Real Madrid have opted not to give it a second try. Who does that actually leave that Jose would be willing to manage? I think it's safe to say that after the way he left Chelsea, he is going to be looking to win, and win fast, and to do that he will want an elite club with big resources. 

 

Enter Manchester United. 

 

The funny thing is that according to most United fans, United "turned him down" when Ferguson left. We can all remember why they apparently  turned him down as well- negative, boring football, no class, awful PR, didn't suit the "united way", was a master of the dark arts, no longevity in any of is previous roles, wouldn't last, generally a nasty piece of work who would bring shame to United. 

 

So, "what has changed??" I hear you cry??

 

Quite simply, a few years of not being very good, that's what. 

 

I know a few United fans and the ones I know are desperate for Jose Mourinho,  just to get back to the top. Moyes was needless to say a catastrophic failure and LVG really hasn't been much better if we are being honest. They have had huge investment and won nothing whilst playing arguably the most boring football of any team in the league- that's the reality of the situation for United fans. All the while City are looking like the new force to be reckoned with as they appoint the much sought after Pep Guardiola.

 

United are desperate, desperate for success, and I believe the club will be willing to "sell its soul" for a return of short term success. And history tells us that's exactly what it will be- short term. 

 

I love Mourinho, always have, and didn't want him to be sacked. Let me just say that now. 

That doesn't, however, change the fact that despite delivering trophies in the process, he failed, very badly, at his attempt to build a long lasting dynasty at Chelsea in his second stint here. Was it all his fault? No, but he still takes his share of the blame and when you look at the antics off the pitch, the terrible PR, the apparent dressing room collapse and the overall league position he left us in, he has to take a large slice of it. Just like he takes his large slice when it all goes right. 

 

Roman Abramovich clearly didn't want to sack Mourinho this time. He game him a lot more time than he has ever given any manager previously despite our situation being twice as bad, farcically bad, let's be honest. I didn't want him sacked, but I understood why he was- we were in complete free fall and Jose looked like he had no answer. Homes losses to teams like Bournemouth were not even that shocking by the end. It was depressing to see what Jose had become given he didn't lose a home league game in over 3 seasons in his first stint. It was like watching a 'past his best' Mike Tyson get knocked about by a young, opportunist but inferior boxer who wouldn't have lasted 1 round against Tyson in his prime. 

The point is I believe the fans and the owner wanted him to make this work, but it didn't.... not in the long term. 

 

Will it hurt seeing Jose inevitably lift the Premiership trophy with United? Yes, yes it will. 

 

Will be be there for more than 3 years and build a dynasty at United? No, no he won't.

Talking about dynasty's is pointless, specially in today's football. Not many footballs clubs let a manager build a dynasty. The last one in the premier league is Wenger and look at his record in the last 10 years. Would I rather have Chelsea's trophy haul or Arsenals for the last 10 years with Chelsea's track record of bad appointments and sackings.

Pep doesn't build dynasty's, 3 years of success then his off, it's like Hiddink, people say he doesn't play the youngsters but all Hiddink cares about is a trophy and a good prem record for his CV.

Look at how quick Chelsea changed, Mourinho had lost the dressing room and once that happens the club ain't going to sell all the players and keep the manager, the manager has to go. Why he lost the dressing room no one knows but one day it will come out. But we all know Chelsea didn't play well at the end of last season and pre season. No new major signings and the embarrassment of the Eva argument didn't help.

Man Utd will get 3 yrs of trophies and that's a lot better than what they have been getting plus the bragging rights.

Folk are talking about Mourinho going to Man Utd and then it will be a given that he will immediately start winning trophies. Of course that could happen, that has been the pattern of things before but it is No Way a given.

 

The PL is now a lot more competitive and the pressures to win will be as huge as ever and we know Jose won't be able to change his ways when things don't go his way and he'll throw his toys out of the pram which won't go down well with the Utd hierarchy. Sure Jose & Utd will have the ability to attract some big name signings and maybe this current period out of the game will have given him chance to reflect on where he went so badly wrong, but I honestly don't see him being able to win things at Utd at a canter as he has in the past.

 

Time will tell and as much have I have happy and fond memories of the Jose years, I will enjoy beating Utd all the more should he be their Manager.

If he does go to Man U, I wonder how long it will take him to get rid of Juan Mata?  Let's have him back at Chelsea!

The PL is now a lot more competitive and the pressures to win will be as huge as ever and we know Jose won't be able to change his ways when things don't go his way and he'll throw his toys out of the pram which won't go down well with the Utd hierarchy. Sure Jose & Utd will have the ability to attract some big name signings and maybe this current period out of the game will have given him chance to reflect on where he went so badly wrong, but I honestly don't see him being able to win things at Utd at a canter as he has in the past.

How often are things not going to go his way? If theyre willing to spend 100m for Moyes, when is Jose not going to get his way?

How often are things not going to go his way? If theyre willing to spend 100m for Moyes, when is Jose not going to get his way?

In the league, with the fans, with the board forcing Ryan Giggs on him, with Ed Woodward f**king up every piece of transfer business.

There are a lot of things that can not go his way, especially as this is a very weak squad he could potentially inherit yes it is expensive but it is full of a lot of average at best players.

Edited February 7, 201610 yr by PedroMendez