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David Luiz back at Chelsea

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If we end up playing 3 at the back, I can see him being given a bit more license to go forward into the midfield and support Kante when we attack.

Very clever signing from Conte, the way i see it, Conte has a player who can be involved in his plans, maybe not his plan A, but he will be involved, unlike a few other signings we have purchased recently, nothing worse than buying a player who never plays.

Luiz will offer something Conte is craving for, a deep ball player, whether that be in midfield or at the back I don't know, but either way Conte gets the ball player.

His defending can be erratic, and I'm sure Conte knows this, Conte's no mug. He knows what Luiz can give us, and he thinks we need it, so I'm going with him on this one.

 

Conte spoke about the ridiculous money being demanded for medium players. Taking back Luiz (although returns to Chelsea haven't often proven that great) is a sensible and pragmatic move. He comes with a certain reputation but he is a fine footballer at his best and comes with a great personality. I'm cautiously optimistic.

Don't know where i really stand on this signing tbh lots of good views and opinions for and against so iam just gonna be a true blue and welcome the geezer back and wish him all the best....KTBFFH ::ChELSeAFaN::

I'm actually surprisingly happy about this signing, when I heard the rumour first I sort of facepalmed, but the more I think about it the more I think it could actually prove to be an inspired signing. Luiz adds a dimension to our central defence that we have been lacking since he left (no not a fluffy mop of hair). He's a football player first and foremost, a defender second, but he adds that extra element of danger from a deep position since his technique is amazing and he can pick out long passes or dribble out from defence. Now, before, we would lament when he'd go on his mazy runs from the back, fearing that he would lose the ball and be caught out of position. But that was before we had a real ball-winner in midfield to cover for him, something that Kante provides now, and with Zouma and his abundance of pace coming back soon, Luiz may be allowed more freedom to do what he does best, which is play with the ball. 

There is also now the second option of playing with a back 3, since with Luiz and Zouma in there, we have the pace and power to actually pull it off. Plus, in a back 3, as we have seen with Conte's previous teams, there needs to be a ball-playing defender. Bonucci provided that, and now we have a player with similar (I might even say superior) ball skills to provide that outlet from defence. Conte is no mug, he's got serious managerial acumen, so he's obviously seen something in Luiz that he likes and feels the pros of his game outweigh the cons.

Or else i'm stupid, Luiz is a donkey, and the board just panic bought a central defender and left Conte holding his dick in his hand. But I like to think that the other explanation is more likely

4 minutes ago, RMCM said:

There is also now the second option of playing with a back 3, since with Luiz and Zouma in there, we have the pace and power to actually pull it off.

 If we do end up playing a back three I imagine it will look like this:

-----------Ivanovic----------Luiz----------Terry

 

Don't ask me who would play in front of them though, I have no idea (other than Kanté).

2 minutes ago, PloKoon13 said:

 If we do end up playing a back three I imagine it will look like this:

-----------Ivanovic----------Luiz----------Terry

 

Don't ask me who would play in front of them though, I have no idea (other than Kanté).

Call me a heretic, traitor, ungrateful (choice of any expletive), but I would drop terry from there and have it look like this

Zouma --------- Ivanovic -------- Luiz

Luiz is a left sided centre back isn't he? I think I remember that's where he played for us, but I'm a little hazy on that, and I was drinking until 4am and am currently sitting sh*tfaced at my desk in work, so ignore me if I'm talking sh*te :laugh2:

For me the best part of it is we have the players to use in several systems that we didn't before, my fear was always this: we have a bad day get slaughtered and the players think "here we go again" and their heads drop, with a new manager, new faces and a new system it freshens thing up all round and it will be easier to bounce back from a bump in the road if they are buying into a new philosophy, easier to get their heads down and back to work, this is all just more tools for Conte on and off the pitch. Also people saying  things like "oh personality la-di-da, not going to help Luiz defend' etc etc. Don't underestimate what a big personality does in the changing room at half time on a tough day or before a big match, I still believe having Drog in the dressing room contributed greatly to us winning the title 14-15. Football is as much psychology as it is kicking a ball. 

Edited by DonAntonio

4 minutes ago, Xfaxtor said:

I unliked this post just so I could like it again. 

Lol when you give it large and get hit back with a witty smart arse comment and an epic GIF there isn't much coming back from that. 

15 minutes ago, RMCM said:

Call me a heretic, traitor, ungrateful (choice of any expletive), but I would drop terry from there and have it look like this

Zouma --------- Ivanovic -------- Luiz

Luiz is a left sided centre back isn't he? I think I remember that's where he played for us, but I'm a little hazy on that, and I was drinking until 4am and am currently sitting sh*tfaced at my desk in work, so ignore me if I'm talking sh*te :laugh2:

He can play either side - he certainly played on the right when partnered with Terry during his previous stint with us. At PSG he tended to play on the left of Thiago Silva.

I don't think Zouma is a particularly natural fit in a back three; he's still by far the weakest on the ball out of the five senior centre backs currently on our books. I think I am right about the personnel Conte would choose in a back three, and I am certain Ivanovic would be the right-sided of the three, however thinking about it you may well be right about Luiz playing on the left. I think he would be more naturally inclined than Terry to spread wide when in possession.

Good call on the drinking, I was tempted to have a breakfast beer this morning but I gave it to my mate who seemed like he might need it more.

3 hours ago, Blueblur said:

The question is, where will he play? As an actual CB instead of Cahill? Or will he be DM alongside Kante? 

And where the hell does Alonso fit into this? 

Hopefully he is just a back-up meanwhile, Alonso goes on the left with azpi moving back to the right.

I'm not very sure how we can play with 3 at the back using Luiz. Some compare Luiz to Bonucci in their ball play, but certainly Bonucci is twice (or thrice) the defender than Luiz. This would leave us playing with 2 at the back white a few times while Luiz is running god-knows-where out of position. We have Kante to cover ??, but it should be the other way around, the CB should cover for any possible ball going past Kante. I'd be more confortable with 4 as @didierforever has suggested:

Azpi - Zouma/Ivanovic - Terry - Alonso

But I may be wrong in my appreciation of a defence of 3, and I would like to hear how it would work in your opinion. In any case, maybe Conte will use him alongside Kante instead of Matic (?).

12 hours ago, barak81 said:

You don't have to go that far with regards to shocks in football Leicester I mean) we won a champions league in Munich against Munich with Luiz at center back with a half a hamstring 

 

He was very disciplined that match.

 

Maybe he needs to play with half a hamstring all the time.

26 minutes ago, RMH said:

I'm not very sure how we can play with 3 at the back using Luiz. Some compare Luiz to Bonucci in their ball play, but certainly Bonucci is twice (or thrice) the defender than Luiz. 

Luiz is twice the ball player Bonucci is.

11 hours ago, just said:

He might give him an Orange at half time, but I can't see Conte pulling him off.

But if it can actually make Luiz learn how to defend it might be worth a try. With Vaseline or without?

 

Hey just, it's good to know you still love your old jokes.

8 minutes ago, Davey Baby said:

Maybe he needs to play with half a hamstring all the time.

Or on a yellow card

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