3 minutes ago, EdinburghBlue said:

That’s subjective though isn’t it? Personally I think CHO is better than Pedro. I also think Christensen is a better defender that Luiz. I think Barkley/RLC offed more going forward than Kovacic. Also, Kante should IMO be playing more like he did last season.

 

My point is it’s subjective what’s our strongest team is. In Sarri’s opinion our squad is hard to motivate, well - simply stop playing them then. If he recalled players like James, Abraham, Mount and started playing them alongside the ones that are motivated I.e. Kepa, Azpi, Kante for example. I don’t think there would be too many grumbles from fans. The club should back the manager in that scenario. There’s been far too long a history of Chelsea having players who aren’t motivated. The two follow up seasons to our title wins are proof of that.

Christensen hasn't performed this season when given a chance and is the reason we went out to Barca last year. There's a reason he hasn't got into the first team.

CHO played 90 on the weekend. 

I think ampadu needs to play more in the jorginho role. No one talks about that. Everyone suggests kante (who would be dreadful in that position) 

10 hours ago, charierre said:

I don't think anyone wants him sacking

 

11 hours ago, Sindre said:

That should be arrivederci.

He is clearly out of his depth.

 

10 hours ago, Andy2461 said:

Goodbye

 

10 hours ago, Zeta said:

Whatever he is trying to do is not working and if he can't see that or is unable/unwilling to change it, then he is not the right man to take us forward. 

 

10 hours ago, axman2526 said:

If you cannot sort the team out so they at least fight for the shirt please quit Mr. Sarri. 

 

@yorkleyblue I daren't tell you the way I was feeling yesterday after that result, I didn't even bother coming on the forum because I know I'd only regret it. 

I'd advise others to do the same, it's hard to take a loss like that and keep a calm head. However, if you think Sarri should be sacked after that even now I think the issue is with people like you, the fans need to back the gaffer, it doesn't help when we've got a trigger happy board as it is, it definitely doesn't help when the fanbase want a manager sacking in his first season after one terrible defeat. 

2 hours ago, DiegoCostaLegend said:

He dropped Alonso for Emerson and played Higuain and Pedro.

That‘s our best line-up. Hardly Sarri‘s fault. However, if he goes on about not being able to motivate the players, he has to be sacked immediately.

Why? We are 5th in the league and he is saying it as it is. In 2015 Mourinho said similar things and many (myself included) wanted him to stay despite us teetering around relegation in December.

And if you somehow get your wish and the next one comes in and the same happens? "Sack immediately!!!!"

18 minutes ago, EdinburghBlue said:

If he recalled players like James, Abraham, Mount and started playing them alongside the ones that are motivated I.e. Kepa, Azpi, Kante for example. I don’t think there would be too many grumbles from fans.

I quite like your posts normally, mate, but that bit is just being silly.  Do that, lose 2 or 3 in a row and the same bitch-whining would start up from the usual suspects, you know it would.

8 minutes ago, Slojo said:

@yorkleyblue I daren't tell you the way I was feeling yesterday after that result, I didn't even bother coming on the forum because I know I'd only regret it. 

I'd advise others to do the same, it's hard to take a loss like that and keep a calm head. However, if you think Sarri should be sacked after that even now I think the issue is with people like you, the fans need to back the gaffer, it doesn't help when we've got a trigger happy board as it is, it definitely doesn't help when the fanbase want a manager sacking in his first season after one terrible defeat. 

That’s two consecutive league games where he’s said he can’t motivate this group of players post-match.
Forgive me for not wanting a manager that can’t motivate his players. It’s a shocking thing to say and we are currently sinking like a stone being fifth, going on sixth place.

I’ve like Sarri and have had his back up until very, very recently but he’s lost me after Arsenal last week and now Bournemouth.
You simply cannot admit you can’t motivate your own players and stay in the job. Because the end is coming sooner rather than later in any case when that is the case.
 

13 minutes ago, bisright1 said:

Christensen hasn't performed this season when given a chance and is the reason we went out to Barca last year. There's a reason he hasn't got into the first team.

CHO played 90 on the weekend. 

I think ampadu needs to play more in the jorginho role. No one talks about that. Everyone suggests kante (who would be dreadful in that position) 

I’m so bored of people quoting that Barca game over and over again. It’s Terry’s fault we never won the Champions Leauge in ‘08. Actually, it’s Drogba’s fault we never won it for getting sent off. See how easy it is to pick our one thing and say a player isn’t good enough? 

 

He’s 18 not 38, I’m sure he can manage a couple of games in a week.

 

Ampadu didn’t look comfortable in there the other night when he played there - I also never said play Kante in his role, I said deeper where he played last year and was one of the best midfielders in the world.

3 minutes ago, yorkleyblue said:

I quite like your posts normally, mate, but that bit is just being silly.  Do that, lose 2 or 3 in a row and the same bitch-whining would start up from the usual suspects, you know it would.

But we’re losing badly anyway mate! I do appreciate saying folk wouldn’t moan might be naive by me but I certainly wouldn’t be as upset losing 4-0 to Bournemouth with those lads playing and busting their balls than the players we currently have looking like they’d rather be anywhere else.

Remember Pep really struggled in his first year.  It's still early days, but the Kante experiment is surely over, the man ought to move Kante back to his place where he's been the best in the world for the past couple of years, BAFFLING why he's playing him so far up, all over the place.

Yes, he is versatile and one hell of a player, but thats not where his true strengths are, and everyone recognises this apart from Sarri. 

I sincerely hope the players had the balls to give him their thoughts last night. 

I was watching the Bournemouth game last night and  before the first half ended my inner monologue said 'I wonder if Bournemouth fans are even feeling the pressure from our advanced position up the pitch here, moving the ball all over the place pretty well, yet we aren't really going anywhere'. We played some very nice one touch football in the first half, yet we did f**k all with it in the box. We look like flakey Arsenal from 5 years ago. Our tactics are so obvious and seem to be easy to nullify with tight marking. The ball on the deck is nice to look at normally, but we nearly caught them out a couple of times by mixing it up and playing chipping throughballs etc, we need more variety in our play. 

We got caught on the break a lot and paid the ultimate price, egg on face.

He has to make big changes and fast.

5 minutes ago, Slojo said:

@yorkleyblue I daren't tell you the way I was feeling yesterday after that result, I didn't even bother coming on the forum because I know I'd only regret it. 

I'd advise others to do the same, it's hard to take a loss like that and keep a calm head. However, if you think Sarri should be sacked after that even now I think the issue is with people like you, the fans need to back the gaffer, it doesn't help when we've got a trigger happy board as it is, it definitely doesn't help when the fanbase want a manager sacking in his first season after one terrible defeat. 

The trouble isn't just last night though. Since about November onwards we have been massively stale in every game we have played. It is clear that currently the tactics aren't working and the most annoying thing is the reluctance/ stubbornness to change and try something different. Teams have sussed out now that if you double mark or press Jorginho that is where they will get their success. If other teams have worked that out, why has our manager not? The games we have lost this season to the likes of Leicester, Wolves, Bournemouth is nowhere near good enough for a team hoping to finish in the top 4.

People keep making the Guardiola comparison - difference is for me Guardiola came to this country having won 21 trophies previously, and had a board that backed him with around £300m in his second season, Sarri wont get that.

 

Motivation, what a load of bollocks, it wasn't a lack of motivation that let in four goals.

One bad patch and the plastics come out demanding the manager be sacked, while complaining the club sacks managers to easily. 

I truly don't understand a lot of you people in here.  Half a season into a totally new  way of playing, with a squad that contains many of the players that you lot have been saying for years aren't good enough, we're in a Cup Final, still in the FA Cup and the Euopa League, and we're 5th in the Premier League on GOALS SCORED and still you moan, and whine and want the manager sacked, because obviously the grass will be greener on the other side, with a new manager, won't it?

No-one seems to have any idea at all about who that new manager should be, nor how he or she could make this squad suddenly turn into Brazil from the 1970's, but no, it's waaa, waaa, waaa, I'm fed up with my new shiney thing and I want ANOTHER new shiny thing and I want it now.

And I really do LOVE (I don't) all the footballing tactical geniuses in here who know exactly where it's being done wrong, and exactly what needs to be done to make it all cream cakes and unicorns. I'm not sure why they have all given up their very lucrative jobs managing Champions League clubs to go back to their first love of plastering,  but everyone makes their own career choices.

Edited January 31, 20197 yr by yorkleyblue

If you were to tell me after last season that we would be in contention for top three (which we are) in the league cup final, stormed the Europa League group stages and still be in the fa cup come February I'd have bitten your hand off. Pep only just got top four in his first season when city were adjusting to his tactics. One bad day doesn't make a team. Look at the positives which last night aside there is quite a few

Bad day at the office. Didn’t think we deserved to loose by that margin. 

Definately appears to be structural problems. We’re crying out for a Gazza type midfielder who demands the ball, can carry the ball and see a pass, and a couple of roll your sleeves up leaders on the park, but these people don’t grow on trees.

2 minutes ago, yorkleyblue said:

I truly don't understand a lot of you people in here.  Half a season into a totally new  way of playing, with a squad that contains many of the players that you lot have been saying for years aren't good enough, we're in a Cup Final, still in the FA Cup and the Euopa League, and we're 5th in the Premier League on GOALS SCORED and still you moan, and whine and want the manager sacked, because obviously the grass will be greener on the other side, with a new manager, won't it?

No-one seems to have any idea at all about who that new manager should be, nor how he or she could make this squad suddenly turn into Brazil from the 1970's, but no, it's waaa, waaa, waaa, I'm fed up with my new shiney thing and I want ANOTHER new shiny thing and I want it now.

And I really do LOVE (I don't) all the footballing tactical geniuses in here who know exactly where it's being done wrong, and exactly what needs to be done to make it all cream cakes and unicorns. I'm not sure why they have all given up their very lucrative jobs managing Champions League clubs to go back to their first love of plastering,  but everyone makes their own career choices.

I don't mind people suggesting tactics and such things, but the fans who want a manager sacked 6 months in are not worth listening to, if they cant give a new manager time to change things without  calling for him to leave, then i don't care to listen to their tactical suggestions.

5 minutes ago, yorkleyblue said:

I truly don't understand a lot of you people in here.  Half a season into a totally new  way of playing, with a squad that contains many of the players that you lot have been saying for years aren't good enough, we're in a Cup Final, still in the FA Cup and the Euopa League, and we're 5th in the Premier League on GOALS SCORED and still you moan, and whine and want the manager sacked, because obviously the grass will be greener on the other side, with a new manager, won't it?

No-one seems to have any idea at all about who that new manager should be, nor how he or she could make this squad suddenly turn into Brazil from the 1970's, but no, it's waaa, waaa, waaa, I'm fed up with my new shiney thing and I want ANOTHER new shiny thing and I want it now.

And I really do LOVE (I don't) all the footballing tactical geniuses in here who know exactly where it's being done wrong, and exactly what needs to be done to make it all cream cakes and unicorns. I'm not sure why they have all given up their very lucrative jobs managing Champions League clubs to go back to their first love of plastering,  but everyone makes their own career choices.

Some people are of the opinion he should get sacked, some people are of the opinion he should stay. Fair enough. Just because you have a different opinion to some people doesn't mean you have to get all high and mighty about it.

2 minutes ago, drjonesy1994 said:

Some people are of the opinion he should get sacked, some people are of the opinion he should stay. Fair enough. Just because you have a different opinion to some people doesn't mean you have to get all high and mighty about it.

Neither high, nor mighty.  I truly do not understand the mind-set. 

Fickle and glory-hunting come to mind, but obviously some people might have genuinely valid reasons for wanting a manager sacked in these circumstances.  I just cannot conceive of what those reasons could possibly be.

15 minutes ago, coco said:

Motivation, what a load of bollocks, it wasn't a lack of motivation that let in four goals.

Don’t act like it doesn’t have anything to do with that.
There is clearly a huge difference in performance between a motivated group of players and an unmotivated one. That’s how it works in every business, an unmotivated worker isn’t half as valuable as a motivated one.

22 minutes ago, jamie#8 said:

IT TAKES TIME

That's a precious commodity that this club and league doesn't afford you.....regardless of who you are coming into this club the pressure to fight for the title, a trophy and at least the top 4 is hanging over your head and if you don't deliver either one the most you will ever get around here is maybe two seasons.  Perhaps the problem is not the question of whether he has the right players for the style of football he what he wants to play, but was he the right manager for the type of players we had at the time he came in?  Guaranteed the Board didn't even consider that question because they haven't got one ounce of understanding football beyond the boardroom. 

3 minutes ago, CFCCAN said:

if you don't deliver either one the most you will ever get around here is maybe two seasons.

And I don't necessarily think that is a bad thing.  People whining and wanting him sacked after half a season are the problem.

Just now, yorkleyblue said:

Neither high, nor mighty.  I truly do not understand the mind-set. 

Fickle and glory-hunting come to mind, but obviously some people might have genuinely valid reasons for wanting a manager sacked in these circumstances.  I just cannot conceive of what those reasons could possibly be.

For me - we played some great football at the start of the season, August to October. But what has happened since November until now it seems as though we have actually gone backwards. As i said above it is the reluctance to change when things aren't going right that is annoying me, and others. Last night's result was not a one off, and we have been poor recently (Spurs at home aside). If we continue in the same vain as we have the last few months then things will only get worse.

Don't get me wrong, I have been behind Sarri up until recently and obviously I would rather see him succeed than get sacked. But I just think his tactical stubbornness and perhaps naivety as well is what is going to cost him.

BACK OUR COACH

5 minutes ago, CFCCAN said:

That's a precious commodity that this club and league doesn't afford you.....regardless of who you are coming into this club the pressure to fight for the title, a trophy and at least the top 4 is hanging over your head and if you don't deliver either one the most you will ever get around here is maybe two seasons.  Perhaps the problem is not the question of whether he has the right players for the style of football he what he wants to play, but was he the right manager for the type of players we had at the time he came in?  Guaranteed the Board didn't even consider that question because they haven't got one ounce of understanding football beyond the boardroom. 

We cannot bring in a manager that suits a squad full of aging players. Willian, Pedro, Luiz, Giroud etc. Top 4 is certainly a priority and can still be achieved. If you want to bring a certain brand of football to the club long term you must take some hits short term. Don't get me wrong if after two seasons there is little improvement and possibly he has failed in the transfer market then we can question him. But to do so at the moment is ludicrous. 

@drjonesy1994 Fair enough.  I think you are being a little harsh, Spurs away wasn't that shabby, we beat City,  and we're still only 5th because the Arse have scored more than we have.