39 minutes ago, CFC Minty said:

Really don't think we should be hasty in replacing Kepa, as that's exactly the same way we got into this "mess" to begin with, by panicking after Courtois bailed.

If we complete other expected transfers (Havertz, Chilwell, Silva) then I'm content and feel cautiously optimistic to see how Kepa will perform with an upgraded team in front of him. If we can't get a proper GK target this window I would genuinely rather we wait and aim to get an Onana or Pope or similar in January. That also gives us time to sell off your Jorginhos and Emersons to recoup the necessary funds.

For me it's just a case of "better the devil you know"... Even an 8m Butland could just be 8m down the drain for no tangible improvement.

Sergio Romero is the only budget option that really intrigues me, but definitely cannot see Manure letting him come to us.

This makes sense but may well be seen as a massive gamble. Man Utd definitely feel undermined by DDG this season and he has had a pass because of his history. Would our management be prepared to gamble all on an error prone keeper. Maybe instead of getting a number 2 to replace Willy, Chelsea should look at spending a bit more and have a genuine competition between them. If Kepa truly is international class he should be able to step up and prove it.

I think with the GK situation, perhaps the Chelsea board thought that we could leave this position for the last signing since a GK doesn’t need time to gel with the team like an outfield player would.

I’m still hopeful we will be looking at a GK in this window.

5 minutes ago, dansubrosa said:

I think with the GK situation, perhaps the Chelsea board thought that we could leave this position for the last signing since a GK doesn’t need time to gel with the team like an outfield player would.

I’m still hopeful we will be looking at a GK in this window.

IDK, I think with Kepa at this point they probably can't afford to get rid of him.  Is another keeper going to want to come play for Chelsea and get paid less than Kepa?  

Feels like they might be stuck with him for a few years at least.  

Replacing Kepa is the most important transfer we can make imo. It doesn't help that Cabellero is probably the worst second choice keeper in the top 6. 

If we aren't sure who to sign, go and get Romero from united and offer him the chance to compete (which will be him walking into the first team). 

29 minutes ago, Valpo said:

IDK, I think with Kepa at this point they probably can't afford to get rid of him.  Is another keeper going to want to come play for Chelsea and get paid less than Kepa?  

Feels like they might be stuck with him for a few years at least.  

They'd get paid more than playing for another club so I don't see why it's relevant. 

Does he deserve one final chance to prove his worth or is he a lost cause?

9 minutes ago, Amputechture said:

Does he deserve one final chance to prove his worth or is he a lost cause?

I mean if you can get rid of him than I would say at this point he's probably a sunk cost.  

Guy is just not up to the demands of top flight football and I don't see any reason to believe he will be.  

1 hour ago, Amputechture said:

Does he deserve one final chance to prove his worth or is he a lost cause?

Even when he has had his "good" games I still haven't rated him for technical ability. People on this forum rate him as a ball playing keeper, when in fact he has never been that, nor his background of club football and his distribution has proven to be one di ensional and poor. Add that to the fact that he exhibits the body language of a 12 year old, doesn't communicate, generally has a poor starting position and can save for toffee, I am not sure how he could recover from that

1 hour ago, Amputechture said:

Does he deserve one final chance to prove his worth or is he a lost cause?

Nope, he needs to go. We won't be able to sell him, he'll go out on loan, but if he does really amazing on his loan spells, then obviously we can reconsider him and find out what went wrong. But right now, we can't persist with this guy at the back, he's a liability. 

2 hours ago, Amputechture said:

Does he deserve one final chance to prove his worth or is he a lost cause?

Hell No.

So exciting to go into the new season with a much stronger looking squad, but all that will be undermined if we stick with shorty weak-wrists between the posts.

Think most of us have lost all faith in Kepa but more importantly Lamps has lost faith in him and therefore he has to go. 

2 hours ago, Amputechture said:

Does he deserve one final chance to prove his worth or is he a lost cause?

Not for me, no.

3 hours ago, Amputechture said:

Does he deserve one final chance to prove his worth or is he a lost cause?

He had a second chance after the carabao cup debacle. 

He had his final chance after being brought back just before lockdown. 

He has steadily got worse as teams have worked out how to target him. 

1 hour ago, bisright1 said:

He had a second chance after the carabao cup debacle. 

He had his final chance after being brought back just before lockdown. 

He has steadily got worse as teams have worked out how to target him. 

Target him? By that I assume, it’s just shoot and if you don’t directly hit him you’ll likely get a goal. 

15 hours ago, bisright1 said:

Replacing Kepa is the most important transfer we can make imo. It doesn't help that Cabellero is probably the worst second choice keeper in the top 6. 

If we aren't sure who to sign, go and get Romero from united and offer him the chance to compete (which will be him walking into the first team). 

I would be happy with Romero. (for now) 

I feel so sorry for this poor bloke. This is worse than when nando came to Chelsea!! 

Selling isn't a wise option, a loan with the intent of pushing his value up for re-sale may work out, that way we keep Caballero and buy a decent Kepa replacement.

Alternative option is to give Kepa another chance, but we can't be doing that with Caballero as back up. A quality second option and the two compete for mins could be a smart move. Best case Kepa shows his worth and we can either recover most of the money spent or keep him, worst case at least we have another decent keeper and Kepa will have to be second choice for a season.

7 hours ago, Jackbuchanan said:

I feel so sorry for this poor bloke. This is worse than when nando came to Chelsea!! 

Selling isn't a wise option, a loan with the intent of pushing his value up for re-sale may work out, that way we keep Caballero and buy a decent Kepa replacement.

Alternative option is to give Kepa another chance, but we can't be doing that with Caballero as back up. A quality second option and the two compete for mins could be a smart move. Best case Kepa shows his worth and we can either recover most of the money spent or keep him, worst case at least we have another decent keeper and Kepa will have to be second choice for a season.

There have been reports in the recent days that Edouard Mendy was suggested by Lollichon, he could be that competition for Kepa. 

7 hours ago, Jackbuchanan said:

I feel so sorry for this poor bloke. This is worse than when nando came to Chelsea!! 

Selling isn't a wise option, a loan with the intent of pushing his value up for re-sale may work out, that way we keep Caballero and buy a decent Kepa replacement.

Alternative option is to give Kepa another chance, but we can't be doing that with Caballero as back up. A quality second option and the two compete for mins could be a smart move. Best case Kepa shows his worth and we can either recover most of the money spent or keep him, worst case at least we have another decent keeper and Kepa will have to be second choice for a season.

I don't, his antics in the Cup final destroyed any likeness I had for him, it was a disgusting thing he did, and he likely cost us that trophy. 

I'll be glad to see the back of him personally, as would many others. 

I was listening to a podcast who were saying it’s obvious that Chelsea aren’t quite sure what’s happening with Kepa as there hasn’t been a solid and continuous link with any keepers. Most keepers have pretty much mentioned. 
 

basically says that Chelsea don’t know who to sign or even if they’ll get Kepa off the books. Could be a last minute deal - which is dangerous. 

1 hour ago, JM7 said:

I was listening to a podcast who were saying it’s obvious that Chelsea aren’t quite sure what’s happening with Kepa as there hasn’t been a solid and continuous link with any keepers. Most keepers have pretty much mentioned. 
 

basically says that Chelsea don’t know who to sign or even if they’ll get Kepa off the books. Could be a last minute deal - which is dangerous. 

Yeah it's a disastrous financial decision to sell him. We'll make a massive loss and not many teams could afford his wages to take him on loan. 

For me, he is the first player who needs to be out the door. Our set pieces will continue to be a disaster if not. Silva might help organise us but he is a 183cm CB. He's not solving our issues in the air. In fact he may make them worse. Whileever we have a short keeper who can't dominate in the air, this is going to be an issue.

We need to take the loss on this one. There's no two ways about it.

Loan him or sell him. He can't be trusted as our No. 1

54 minutes ago, Deino said:

We need to take the loss on this one. There's no two ways about it.

Loan him or sell him. He can't be trusted as our No. 1

The problem is finding someone who will loan or sell him. Clubs will know we’re desperate to offload so they will offer reduced fees to try to get him on the cheap. 
 

Add into the fact that it sounds like that we haven’t really identified a suitable and available replacement. 

The loss is certain. I feel we need to resolve this ASAP. If we still trust him and play him all season and he leaks goals like he did 70m is a small amount of money. Loan him out and put a buyout price at 45m. Someone might easily take him with those terms.

On 24/08/2020 at 18:10, Amputechture said:

Does he deserve one final chance to prove his worth or is he a lost cause?

You can’t polish a turd! Absolutely no more chances, can’t take crosses, can’t shot stop, can’t organise defence, and no natural ability or technique, worse keeper and signing in my near 40 years going to bridge

11 hours ago, JM7 said:

I was listening to a podcast who were saying it’s obvious that Chelsea aren’t quite sure what’s happening with Kepa as there hasn’t been a solid and continuous link with any keepers. Most keepers have pretty much mentioned. 
 

basically says that Chelsea don’t know who to sign or even if they’ll get Kepa off the books. Could be a last minute deal - which is dangerous. 

Déjà Vu

2 hours ago, JM7 said:

The problem is finding someone who will loan or sell him. Clubs will know we’re desperate to offload so they will offer reduced fees to try to get him on the cheap. 
 

Add into the fact that it sounds like that we haven’t really identified a suitable and available replacement. 

Sell him on the cheap is better than losing money on wages and letting him drop in value either through not playing him or giving him even more chances to make a fool of himself.

Because either way, we'll still sell him on the cheap

Honestly, I'd rather us loaning Emiliano Martinez or Sergio Romero for a season than play with Kepa atm

Edited August 26, 20205 yr by Deino