September 24, 20232 yr Take a regular top 4 team down into the bottom half after spending billions after barely a season, somehow is still Roman's faults 🤔 I don't mind people preach the new project, but to still blaming Roman for the failure of Boehly and his buddies is just laughable. We didn't need to the squad overhaul or a 100M MF every transfer window, just look at how other teams improved spending only a portion of what we have
September 24, 20232 yr Let's put aside the footballing recruitment for a moment. As much as we may love the clean look of our shirts right now, how can anyone look at what has happened on the business side of the club, the upheaval, the scandal forcing one of the big people recruited by this ownership to leave, Tom Glick going after just one year, Vivell after less than a year, and us having no shirt sponsor still. How can anyone look at that and think these owners are fit to run a football club? Anyone?
September 24, 20232 yr 3 hours ago, WhiteWall said: But we're truly fcked now. This continues to go t*ts up and its all over. They've already spent so much that I doubt the club is a saleable asset at this point. This feels like we really are in the sh*t or bust zone now. Pretty sure the terms of the deal mean they cannot sell for 10 years anyway. So unless Clearlake go out of business they will have to stick with Chelsea for the foreseeable future.
September 24, 20232 yr 9 minutes ago, axman2526 said: Let's put aside the footballing recruitment for a moment. As much as we may love the clean look of our shirts right now, how can anyone look at what has happened on the business side of the club, the upheaval, the scandal forcing one of the big people recruited by this ownership to leave, Tom Glick going after just one year, Vivell after less than a year, and us having no shirt sponsor still. How can anyone look at that and think these owners are fit to run a football club? Anyone? The way we are being run reminds me very much of the way things work in baseball, which is not surprising given Boehly's connections to the Dodgers. In baseball when team owners make a decision to rebuild the fans know that the team will likely be awful for several years. A bunch of prospects are brought in and a new team is developed with the plan to have them challenging after a few years. That mostly works in baseball, although attendances may go down. But there is no significant to having an awful season. No teams are relegated and the worst teams are rewarded with a better pick of the new talent. Taking the same approach in the Premier League is very risky. Yes there are a few weak teams in the Premier League most seasons, but with our lack of players with any experience I wouldn't fancy our chances if we have to fight it out with the likes of Burnley.
September 25, 20232 yr 40 minutes ago, forbzy said: The way we are being run reminds me very much of the way things work in baseball, which is not surprising given Boehly's connections to the Dodgers. In baseball when team owners make a decision to rebuild the fans know that the team will likely be awful for several years. A bunch of prospects are brought in and a new team is developed with the plan to have them challenging after a few years. That mostly works in baseball, although attendances may go down. But there is no significant to having an awful season. No teams are relegated and the worst teams are rewarded with a better pick of the new talent. Taking the same approach in the Premier League is very risky. Yes there are a few weak teams in the Premier League most seasons, but with our lack of players with any experience I wouldn't fancy our chances if we have to fight it out with the likes of Burnley. Our form in 2023 is joint bottom. We have a realistic chance of being relegated this season.
September 25, 20232 yr 2 hours ago, axman2526 said: Let's put aside the footballing recruitment for a moment. As much as we may love the clean look of our shirts right now, how can anyone look at what has happened on the business side of the club, the upheaval, the scandal forcing one of the big people recruited by this ownership to leave, Tom Glick going after just one year, Vivell after less than a year, and us having no shirt sponsor still. How can anyone look at that and think these owners are fit to run a football club? Anyone? No one with half a functioning brain can still have faith in Eggboehly and Clearlake. It`s painfully obvious. It scares me that there are still people around who have faith in the new "owners". Shows you how delusional humans can get.
September 25, 20232 yr wish we have our own Glazer out movement anytime soon....we need to do this before these idiotic owners relegate us
September 25, 20232 yr We can huff and puff but as I understand it we have the owners for 10 years , this was the deal insisted upon when we were sold. So we can do a glaziers out type stand but they're not going anywhere because they can't .
September 25, 20232 yr 14 minutes ago, hawkster said: We can huff and puff but as I understand it we have the owners for 10 years , this was the deal insisted upon when we were sold. So we can do a glaziers out type stand but they're not going anywhere because they can't . Precisely why you don't see me complain about the owners, nothing can be done about it now.
September 25, 20232 yr Identifying the solution to our problem is actually very simple. I would say we just need two striker/forward players that are excellent and confident finishers. The difficult part is finding them. Do I trust the scouts to find them? Based on our track record, no I don't. Spurs have been in excellent form. They've lost Kane but they've kept Son who is the mould of attacking player we need. Having at least one really good attacking player just changes the whole dynamic of the game. It gives the opposition more to think about, making your teammates job slightly easier which gives them confidence. Right now our attack is just a total let down and alll the pressure is now on our defence and keeper. Adding two very reliable attacking players in our squad will completely change everything. Pray to God that we can solve this problem in the next two windows.
September 25, 20232 yr 1 hour ago, KonaKai Blue said: Identifying the solution to our problem is actually very simple. I would say we just need two striker/forward players that are excellent and confident finishers. The difficult part is finding them. Do I trust the scouts to find them? Based on our track record, no I don't. Spurs have been in excellent form. They've lost Kane but they've kept Son who is the mould of attacking player we need. Having at least one really good attacking player just changes the whole dynamic of the game. It gives the opposition more to think about, making your teammates job slightly easier which gives them confidence. Right now our attack is just a total let down and alll the pressure is now on our defence and keeper. Adding two very reliable attacking players in our squad will completely change everything. Pray to God that we can solve this problem in the next two windows. It's about having a go-to plan that is practiced and perfected, the personell problem would then solve itself. Right now we don't have a plan and even when an experienced player like Sterling makes a perfect run and avoids offside, Martinez saves his shot so even training comes into question here, we used to have players like Hazard that could party all morning and score on the next day on matchdag with ease. It all starts on the drawing board and we don't seem to understand the basics, both tactically and practically. Conte, Tuchel, Sarri. They had a formula, it wasn't perfect but it was there because they knew that it can work. We are now stuck with the ashes of those people and Poch hopes that James/Gusto or Chilwell can salvage any given match which used to be a key point of Tuchel's successful period that in itself stopped working during his second season. I don't even believe that having some players back would matter, we have a midfield duo of +200m and we still can't create 3 chances per half, we create at best, 2 chances per half. Nknunku might be very good, but give him a few training sessions after injury and even he will blend in with the rest.
September 25, 20232 yr 4 hours ago, hawkster said: We can huff and puff but as I understand it we have the owners for 10 years , this was the deal insisted upon when we were sold. So we can do a glaziers out type stand but they're not going anywhere because they can't . Yep
September 25, 20232 yr 3 hours ago, KonaKai Blue said: Identifying the solution to our problem is actually very simple. I would say we just need two striker/forward players that are excellent and confident finishers. The difficult part is finding them. Do I trust the scouts to find them? Based on our track record, no I don't. Spurs have been in excellent form. They've lost Kane but they've kept Son who is the mould of attacking player we need. Having at least one really good attacking player just changes the whole dynamic of the game. It gives the opposition more to think about, making your teammates job slightly easier which gives them confidence. Right now our attack is just a total let down and alll the pressure is now on our defence and keeper. Adding two very reliable attacking players in our squad will completely change everything. Pray to God that we can solve this problem in the next two windows. After their disastrous first window and set of decisions, I think most of us were hoping they would settle down and get things right. But at the moment it feels like every decision the owners make, leads to us getting worse. With FFP rules in effect it will become more difficult to improve things in the years ahead, assuming we aren't in Champions League etc. So we have to hope that enough of the long term bets on unproven players work out, or else it looks pretty bleak. As others have pointed out, in the short term it will likely get worse before it gets better.
September 25, 20232 yr With players having clauses in their contracts that sees them earn less if we fail to deliver on on pitch I wonder if there was also put in a relegation wage drop as well? Likely not, and would lead to a full blown financial crisis if it happens.
September 25, 20232 yr 1 hour ago, Zeta said: For those of you not taking the relegation talk seriously: Yup, many living in the clouds that we are simply taking big to go down. Nobody is. We don't score goals, our record, as you have shown, under now 3 different managers is abysmal. We carry on as we are and get dragged in to a relegation fight we go down in my opinion as this squad is too young to handle that pressure.
September 25, 20232 yr Bruno Saltor secretly leaves Chelsea four months into working with Mauricio Pochettino (msn.com) Was this a transitional step that was ultimately planned once Poch's team settled in? Or is it an indicator of more issues behind the scenes?
September 25, 20232 yr 19 hours ago, icecoolguy22 said: Take a regular top 4 team down into the bottom half after spending billions after barely a season, somehow is still Roman's faults 🤔 I don't mind people preach the new project, but to still blaming Roman for the failure of Boehly and his buddies is just laughable. We didn't need to the squad overhaul or a 100M MF every transfer window, just look at how other teams improved spending only a portion of what we have It was a fools errand. Doing what he's done to the team. Spending that kind of money and to have what we do is almost like lottery winners you hear are broke after winning big only a few years down the line Could have added 5 out of the top 10 players in the world and moving on a few where they were coming in and had a structurally sound,experienced team and then introduce a couple of youngsters 2 or 3 at a time. It's baffling, it's almost like he said, I will do it cos I can. I'll show them how it's done. The arrogance shown every step of the way in his tenureship is mind boggling and one that can lead any business to ruin.
September 25, 20232 yr Been a while since I posted, quite frankly - we are being run terribly. The irony of Boehly/Eghbali saying the football club was a mess on all sides is now just laughable in hindsight. We’ve spent £1bn and we have won about 2 games this calendar year, we’re joint bottom on form for this year. We’ve sold off all the academy graduates to sign a bunch of nobodies with “potential” and get rolled over every week. The most appalling part of all of this is the fact we are now almost in October and have no shirt sponsor? How is that an improvement on the business side of the club? The owners are running the club into the ground, it’s not even about the success but I have never in my life felt more disconnected from Chelsea than I do now. We are stuck with these owners for 10 years, there’s nothing we can do about it, but it’s not been a good start and I honestly don’t see how we can progress. £1,000,000,000 - let that sink in. We could have signed a new starting 11 with a budget of f**king £90m a position - you could have a team of world class players, yet we don’t have a single one.
September 25, 20232 yr 4 hours ago, Zeta said: For those of you not taking the relegation talk seriously: This is really amazing, a goal per match and about a point per match. After spending over 1b.
September 25, 20232 yr 37 minutes ago, Gol15 said: This is really amazing, a goal per match and about a point per match. After spending over 1b. While there are some on this forum that don't think signing good players is possible with £1B i still can't believe we bought so many untalented young players. We don't even have many prospects you'd think can reach the top level. Maybe Paez who's 15? I liked Santos but he can't get in the Forrest squad. We've brought in so few genuinely talented young players we've got a squad full of players that if they reach their potential might be good enough to play for Brentford or Everton but right now aren't at that level. Not a surprise we're doing so badly with the squad we have but it's amazing we spent so much on about £150m worth of talent. We will most likely stay up but we don't have the talent to consistently win games so every game is a battle and I'm not sure we've got the battlers in the squad. relegation was a prospect last season, this season and will be next season and the season after without serious squad reforms. Edited September 25, 20232 yr by Whats_The_Mata?
September 25, 20232 yr 47 minutes ago, EdinburghBlue said: Been a while since I posted, quite frankly - we are being run terribly. The irony of Boehly/Eghbali saying the football club was a mess on all sides is now just laughable in hindsight. We’ve spent £1bn and we have won about 2 games this calendar year, we’re joint bottom on form for this year. We’ve sold off all the academy graduates to sign a bunch of nobodies with “potential” and get rolled over every week. The most appalling part of all of this is the fact we are now almost in October and have no shirt sponsor? How is that an improvement on the business side of the club? The owners are running the club into the ground, it’s not even about the success but I have never in my life felt more disconnected from Chelsea than I do now. We are stuck with these owners for 10 years, there’s nothing we can do about it, but it’s not been a good start and I honestly don’t see how we can progress. £1,000,000,000 - let that sink in. We could have signed a new starting 11 with a budget of f**king £90m a position - you could have a team of world class players, yet we don’t have a single one. Always good to see you about EB. As you have written, as I feel. Been lucky to have had 2 owners that had true passion for Chelsea in my lifetime supporting us. Now this lot have come in, ripped it up and I just dont feel any connection to the club anymore. Just apathy for something I used to love almost more than anything else.
September 25, 20232 yr Martin Samuel has written this season is a defining one for the level of influence Todd will be allowed at the club. Unlike Eghbali, Todd only holds a minority amount of shares in the consortium that bought us, and he shifted the blame for last seasons failing on to Graham Potters failure as our manager. The shareholders of the consortium have apparently put it forwarded that now Todd is on the hook for things, and if this summers recruitment, including hiring Pochettino and the two directors he chose for recruitment, Winstanley and Stewart, does not pan out and we fail again (and we are going to fail as the expectation was top 5 and CL football), Todd would lose his power in the club.
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