1 minute ago, Sconnie Blue said:

Yeah its all very toxic. The boos at full time (AGAIN) and Eghbali entering the dressing room. We've seen this all before. Any news that comes out of Chelsea nowadays is 99% negative and will cause inside turmoil or outside negative views on integrity. I was embarrassed the season we finished 10th in 2016, this is a very, very new low. 

Fortunately I am busy with my kids and am part of a triathlon team so I am able to keep my mind of Chelsea for the time being. Really does take a toll on you when you have nothing else going on. 

Boos are only going to get worse. The fan base is turning very toxic.

5 hours ago, reparto corse said:

Of course it is depressing. Roman was forced to sell and decided to hand the club over to an American investment company, that doesn`t even understand anything about football. I wonder what Roman thinks about this decision today.

The entire future of the club is at stake now. If we don`t turn it around we will get relegated. We have been in relegation form for 9 out of 12 months of 2023 now. I am actually surprised there are people around who aren`t panicking yet. I have never felt so disheartened about the state of Chelsea since falling in love with the club watching us get knocked out by AS Monaco in the 2003/2004 season.

The problem is not just how horrible we are managed. No, the problem is also that Boehly had the audacity to critisize Roman for his management of the club. I still remember how he came in and talked this bullsh*t about European sports being 15 years behind American sports. Now look at what he has done. Everyone is laughing at Chelsea for being total morons in the transfer market and rightfully so. We spent 1 billion on new players and have no one in the team that can score a goal. Not one truly elite player in the entire squad apart from maybe Enzo when played in the right position. Reece James would be world-class if he wasn`t injured all the time. But he hasn`t been able to stay fit for a long time now and there is no reason to stay optimistic. Either his body is not made for PL football or the medical team is incompetent ...

Ah ... and I forgot: We also don`t have a shirt sponsor yet. How is this even possible?

 

Which corporate entity in its right mind would want to be associated with this club at the moment?

The pound shop?

Grinder?

7 minutes ago, Andy North said:

Which corporate entity in its right mind would want to be associated with this club at the moment?

The pound shop?

Grinder?

Save the Children 

1 hour ago, axman2526 said:

Boos are only going to get worse. The fan base is turning very toxic.

I wish eventually this will force them to sell because they don’t want their assets to tank it’s value any further 

they will reach a point that our value dropped so much due to years of missing CL to a point they may not able to recruit half of their investment back

It seems no one has any tolerance on losing. Admittedly losing is not fun but the way we have built a side from just buying players from here and there who are young we should basically just stick behind the plan and the players. That is our job.

If we start booing to new players right away there is no hope of succeeding. 

I understand media making headlines of our struggles (because it sells) but our fanbase is going down that path is pathetic and counterproductive. 

We bought players that are mostly 21 years old, who have no experience in playing in the Premier League. Basically our side is young (apart from Thiago, Raheem and Chilly). We gave everyone 6-8 year deals. If we didn't we'd expect them to deliver from day one. If we bought 26-28 year olds we'd expect them to deliver right away.

We didn't. We decided to trust the knowledge of our scouting and recruiting team and assemble a young side. If they expect them to deliver right away I don't know on what planet they are living on. Not earth. 

Our job is to cheer these young guns on and give them time to learn the ropes and learn to gel and learn to win. This season is not it nor is next. We just have to have patience to see the small steps and hope for our side to be better and better as months go on. 

We have to be more the parents, not the brats nor the arseholes or ignorant it seems a lot of us are. 

We are Chelsea and we are about winning but we absolutely need to back the plan so the owners don't have to change the plan or fall back to old ways. 

It's not just losing though. It's literally relegation form over the last 38 games.

28 minutes ago, evissy said:

It seems no one has any tolerance on losing. Admittedly losing is not fun but the way we have built a side from just buying players from here and there who are young we should basically just stick behind the plan and the players. That is our job.

If we start booing to new players right away there is no hope of succeeding. 

I understand media making headlines of our struggles (because it sells) but our fanbase is going down that path is pathetic and counterproductive. 

We bought players that are mostly 21 years old, who have no experience in playing in the Premier League. Basically our side is young (apart from Thiago, Raheem and Chilly). We gave everyone 6-8 year deals. If we didn't we'd expect them to deliver from day one. If we bought 26-28 year olds we'd expect them to deliver right away.

We didn't. We decided to trust the knowledge of our scouting and recruiting team and assemble a young side. If they expect them to deliver right away I don't know on what planet they are living on. Not earth. 

Our job is to cheer these young guns on and give them time to learn the ropes and learn to gel and learn to win. This season is not it nor is next. We just have to have patience to see the small steps and hope for our side to be better and better as months go on. 

We have to be more the parents, not the brats nor the arseholes or ignorant it seems a lot of us are. 

We are Chelsea and we are about winning but we absolutely need to back the plan so the owners don't have to change the plan or fall back to old ways. 

As Zeta said, it's not just losing. We are talking about a real possibility of relegation here, you seriously expect any fan to wait and be patient when that kind of thing is on the cards? If you were saying a top 10 finish, then fine, we can be patient, but relegation? no chance.

Relegation would destroy the club, you do understand that, right? We go down and every single one of these players will need to be sold just to pay off what we still owe to these clubs. We wouldn't be able to afford to keep them because we wouldn't be able to generate the money for it. It's already bad enough missing out on European money, but if we find ourselves in the Championship, then we're toast. 

43 minutes ago, evissy said:

It seems no one has any tolerance on losing. Admittedly losing is not fun but the way we have built a side from just buying players from here and there who are young we should basically just stick behind the plan and the players. That is our job.

If we start booing to new players right away there is no hope of succeeding. 

I understand media making headlines of our struggles (because it sells) but our fanbase is going down that path is pathetic and counterproductive. 

We bought players that are mostly 21 years old, who have no experience in playing in the Premier League. Basically our side is young (apart from Thiago, Raheem and Chilly). We gave everyone 6-8 year deals. If we didn't we'd expect them to deliver from day one. If we bought 26-28 year olds we'd expect them to deliver right away.

We didn't. We decided to trust the knowledge of our scouting and recruiting team and assemble a young side. If they expect them to deliver right away I don't know on what planet they are living on. Not earth. 

Our job is to cheer these young guns on and give them time to learn the ropes and learn to gel and learn to win. This season is not it nor is next. We just have to have patience to see the small steps and hope for our side to be better and better as months go on. 

We have to be more the parents, not the brats nor the arseholes or ignorant it seems a lot of us are. 

We are Chelsea and we are about winning but we absolutely need to back the plan so the owners don't have to change the plan or fall back to old ways. 

As Scott and Zeta have said I think fear plays a large part in it as well. Fear these new owners are talking is down a dark path where we are relegated, hit with points deduction, and go out of business and end up with an AFC Chelsea.

Not to mention if the club folds, so does the woman's team I imagine, which would be horrid as well. Is the one bright spark some, like @MunkunkuMod and co have left 

33 minutes ago, Zeta said:

It's not just losing though. It's literally relegation form over the last 38 games.

This is exactly the problem. Relegation form is not even an exaggeration.

22 minutes ago, Scott Harris said:

As Zeta said, it's not just losing. We are talking about a real possibility of relegation here, you seriously expect any fan to wait and be patient when that kind of thing is on the cards? If you were saying a top 10 finish, then fine, we can be patient, but relegation? no chance.

I mean the average fan couldn't handle a 'process' season that involved a (succesful) top four challenge and two finals.

Ofcourse there needs to be improvement on THIS level but I fear any manager (unless they already have club legends status like Lampard or pull off something big early on to buy them time like Tuchel) will be pressured to start challenging City instantly regardless of how unrealistic it is.

3 hours ago, axman2526 said:

As Scott and Zeta have said I think fear plays a large part in it as well. Fear these new owners are talking is down a dark path where we are relegated, hit with points deduction, and go out of business and end up with an AFC Chelsea.

Not to mention if the club folds, so does the woman's team I imagine, which would be horrid as well. Is the one bright spark some, like @MunkunkuMod and co have left 

sh*t, I forgot that we are still under investigation for financial irregularities. If the FA decide to go hard on us and give us a points deduction, relegation is all but guaranteed.

6 hours ago, Sconnie Blue said:

Yeah its all very toxic. The boos at full time (AGAIN) and Eghbali entering the dressing room. We've seen this all before. Any news that comes out of Chelsea nowadays is 99% negative and will cause inside turmoil or outside negative views on integrity. I was embarrassed the season we finished 10th in 2016, this is a very, very new low. 

Fortunately I am busy with my kids and am part of a triathlon team so I am able to keep my mind off Chelsea for the time being. Really does take a toll on you when you have nothing else going on. 

Same, glad I have other things to distract since its a busy time of the year for me. The ongoing negative press we currently have definitely takes a toll on you.

Ok. I have heard a few Chelsea fans have given a name to our project. It is now "project Titanic". Lol

3 hours ago, Scott Harris said:

sh*t, I forgot that we are still under investigation for financial irregularities. If the FA decide to go hard on us and give us a points deduction, relegation is all but guaranteed.

The way we are going we might not need any help from the FA. Maybe our best hope is that Everton get the book thrown at them with a big points deduction.

We haven’t even had the recession yet. I struggle to see how this current reign can withstand that when it comes. But I’m repeating myself. It’ll be fun again to be a fan one day. But worse first imo. 

16 hours ago, KonaKai Blue said:

This is exactly the problem. Relegation form is not even an exaggeration.

I'm as much behind 'trusting the process' as anyone and there definitely is a need to differentiate between this season and last but we are genuinely lucky that Luton, Sheffield United and Burnley are in the league this year as all look capable of setting very low points totals

My main concern is our fixtures in late October and through November. We have it rough. The 'Easy' start looked like a blessing at first as a way to build momentum but given we haven't, it makes for scary reading. If we continue as we are we aren't getting anything from those games and could be right down there going into Christmas. In the same way that teams can ride momentum and end up finishing higher than expected, if we find ourselves scrapping still at that point, its a huge psychological barrier to get over. 

But, as I said at the start, its not fair to contextualise our struggles using last seasons form anymore. The turnover in players and staff have been huge. Its the players and managers responsibility to start fresh and kick on but the fans need to (try to) do the same.

20 hours ago, Sconnie Blue said:

Yeah its all very toxic. The boos at full time (AGAIN) and Eghbali entering the dressing room. We've seen this all before. Any news that comes out of Chelsea nowadays is 99% negative and will cause inside turmoil or outside negative views on integrity. I was embarrassed the season we finished 10th in 2016, this is a very, very new low. 

Fortunately I am busy with my kids and am part of a triathlon team so I am able to keep my mind off Chelsea for the time being. Really does take a toll on you when you have nothing else going on. 

I find it more and more depressing coming into this forum than going to the games, if I'm honest. All the negativity is concentrated in here. If we get relegated, this place is going into a bigbang and explode. I'm finding myself less and less inclined to log into the forum to read all the negative views of about everything.

3 minutes ago, RMH said:

I find it more and more depressing coming into this forum than going to the games, if I'm honest. All the negativity is concentrated in here. If we get relegated, this place is going into a bigbang and explode. I'm finding myself less and less inclined to log into the forum to read all the negative views of about everything.

This place has always been a bit negative anyway. 

23 minutes ago, evissy said:

This place has always been a bit negative anyway. 

It is not a bit negative, we have had a few negative posters on here, but now it's got to a point where @axman2526 is the positivity incarnation himself! And it is annoying not to see any balanced view and depressing to see how everybody is enhancing the negatives. It's got to a point, for me, where I rather not read it as it will change my mood to the worse, even more than watching the games.

13 minutes ago, RMH said:

It is not a bit negative, we have had a few negative posters on here, but now it's got to a point where @axman2526 is the positivity incarnation himself! And it is annoying not to see any balanced view and depressing to see how everybody is enhancing the negatives. It's got to a point, for me, where I rather not read it as it will change my mood to the worse, even more than watching the games.

For the last 15 years we have won most games and there still were negative narrative here. Drogba should score More, we should play a more attractive style of football and so on...we need a massive change of tune here in terms of reacting to results. 

I wonder how many on here would remain fans if we did get relegated.  Would attendances drop? 

It maybe this is where the club needs to go to  build a new wining mentality.

How's that for negative?

Just now, Andy North said:

I wonder how many on here would remain fans if we did get relegated.  Would attendances drop? 

It maybe this is where the club needs to go to  build a new wining mentality.

How's that for negative?

I'm looking forward to winning the 2025 FIFA Club World Cup as a Championship side.

"It's a Chelsea Thing ... " 🙂 

I've worked it out.

The owners are targeting a parachute payment for next season so we can afford to buy Mason back.

2 hours ago, RMH said:

I find it more and more depressing coming into this forum than going to the games, if I'm honest. All the negativity is concentrated in here. If we get relegated, this place is going into a bigbang and explode. I'm finding myself less and less inclined to log into the forum to read all the negative views of about everything.

This forum is now basically getting an influx of the same f**kwits you see on social media who are desperate to prove how amazing a fan they are by hating everything about he club to a ridiculous extreme. Its impossible to discuss actual football or anything to do with the club sensibly as it just falls into the same routine of hatred and negativity, anyone daring to not falling this miserable rhetoric is immediately pounced on by the miseries....

Whilst i think that we will ultimately be okay, although possibly a tight run thing if we are not careful, i thought last night provided an interesting illustration of the potential outcome of a strategy of putting a team of youngsters into the ultra competitive environemnt of the EPL, that seems to be the club's current approach.

A little bit disingenious, i know, as i am sure most of these are actually under 18's. Also we actually clawed our way through with a penalty shoot out win, which may have lifted us from the foot of our group, but if the bright young things of three of the current "big clubs" are strugglign to beat these lower league sides..........

Like i say, a little disingenious on my part, but there is a difference in levels and having a team with experience with a smattering of developing youngsters has always been the model for everyone for a reason.