On 14/08/2022 at 12:05, HazardousChoice said:

Well most players score more goals in weaker leagues.  Everyone but our American flop anyway.

But it's quite telling there's no interest in either Pulisic or Ziyech from any league.  We've apparently offered Pulisic to 2 Serie A clubs this season who turned him down.  Milan aren't keen on paying 8m for Ziyech. No one is keen on paying our 8m asking price apparently.

It's a sad state of affairs when we're moving on players like Werner before much less talented and capable options because he was the only one any club is actually interested in.

Why is our team filled with players from those " weaker " league's ? And we buy them because they inevitably looked good in those leagues ?

The Academy and America is where we should be looking for players.

surely ?

Yes, definitely.  But we snagged KDB from a poor (Swiss?) league and Salah from a poor (Dutch?) league, so there are plenty of pearls there (too bad those two got away).

13 hours ago, Phillip said:

Yes, definitely.  But we snagged KDB from a poor (Swiss?) league and Salah from a poor (Dutch?) league, so there are plenty of pearls there (too bad those two got away).

The disrespect towards Genk 😲

My heart bleeds hearing this from a fellow Chelsea fan (as it's my team in Belgium 😄). 

Salah came from Basel, Swiss.

KDB and Courtrois came around the same time from KRC Genk, Belgium.

A team where a lot of good footballer came through (including our new Senegalese French CB) 

1 hour ago, Night-T said:

The disrespect towards Genk 😲

My heart bleeds hearing this from a fellow Chelsea fan (as it's my team in Belgium 😄). 

Salah came from Basel, Swiss.

KDB and Courtrois came around the same time from KRC Genk, Belgium.

A team where a lot of good footballer came through (including our new Senegalese French CB) 

Maybe i'm going slightly off topic here

And I haven't been following Chelsea as closely over the last few seasons as I did before (the whole lockdowns killed some of my interest) so take this with whatever grain (or kilogram) of salt........

but........to me the problem isn't so much getting rid of players like Werner and Ziyech but the fact we bought them in the first place.

Probably less so Werner than Ziyech as at least Werner had a high ceiling (potential) and was young. I don't mind taking an educated punt on young, high ceiling players and it not working. But running off to buy mid-twenties decent but not great players that will never be truely world class seems pointless and stupid to me. Why go out to buy a player from Ajax that is only going to lose his place to Ruben Loftus Cheek and cost more (plus fill a non-homegrown slot) in the process?

It would be different if we were going to just accept we aren't a top budget team anymore, but it's clear from the recent spurge (and the one under Lampard during hoaxvid19) that we are absolutely one of the biggest spending clubs in the world (after Man City and PSG, ahead of even Liverpool). We should only be signing players who are either a) world class or b) potential to be world class. All this messing around with middling premier league quality decent/good players who aren't homegrown is dumb and pointless to my mind. 

We have a world class academy that's produced the likes of Mount, James, Tomori, Abraham, RLC and even Ake in recent(ish) years. They should be the back ups to the world class signings, not the likes of Ziyech or Drinkwater.

Basically if they aren't coming in to be starters or high ceiling potential young players, I think the place is better off filled with a homegrown or academy player.

So many are excited about the heap of new signing coming into the club and to be honest, I just see alot of signings that may be on the scrap heap like Ziyech in 3 years and us going out to spend another fortune on another bunch of not world class players.

Edited September 6, 20223 yr by Guest

9 hours ago, Qaz said:

Maybe i'm going slightly off topic here

And I haven't been following Chelsea as closely over the last few seasons as I did before (the whole lockdowns killed some of my interest) so take this with whatever grain (or kilogram) of salt........

but........to me the problem isn't so much getting rid of players like Werner and Ziyech but the fact we bought them in the first place.

Probably less so Werner than Ziyech as at least Werner had a high ceiling (potential) and was young. I don't mind taking an educated punt on young, high ceiling players and it not working. But running off to buy mid-twenties decent but not great players that will never be truely world class seems pointless and stupid to me. Why go out to buy a player from Ajax that is only going to lose his place to Ruben Loftus Cheek and cost more (plus fill a non-homegrown slot) in the process?

It would be different if we were going to just accept we aren't a top budget team anymore, but it's clear from the recent spurge (and the one under Lampard during hoaxvid19) that we are absolutely one of the biggest spending clubs in the world (after Man City and PSG, ahead of even Liverpool). We should only be signing players who are either a) world class or b) potential to be world class. All this messing around with middling premier league quality decent/good players who aren't homegrown is dumb and pointless to my mind. 

We have a world class academy that's produced the likes of Mount, James, Tomori, Abraham, RLC and even Ake in recent(ish) years. They should be the back ups to the world class signings, not the likes of Ziyech or Drinkwater.

Basically if they aren't coming in to be starters or high ceiling potential young players, I think the place is better off filled with a homegrown or academy player.

So many are excited about the heap of new signing coming into the club and to be honest, I just see alot of signings that may be on the scrap heap like Ziyech in 3 years and us going out to spend another fortune on another bunch of not world class players.

i know what you mean, when we bought Couch, i scratched my head, he isn't much better than Alonso, and i doubt he'll score as many, and when Chilly is fit , its his starting place, so i'd of kept Alonso, he was never the reason we were/ have become sh*t, we should of bought Toney, he's going to inherit Kanes England place soon enough, and Aubameyang is a fabulous stop gap, cant fault Fofana purchase, also raheem is a steal, for what he'll bring,  and hopefully Zaharia might be a JOM/Matic type we so desperately need.

Edited September 6, 20223 yr by Ballack & Blu

i was just minding my own business and fm made me nostalgic 😪

What I wouldn’t give for Timo now! At least he offered a threat and we created things even if he missed most of them lol 

1 minute ago, turnyitb said:

What I wouldn’t give for Timo now! At least he offered a threat and we created things even if he missed most of them lol 

Watched him this week in the CL. Failed to finish two one on ones with the keeper and went off injured. 

1 minute ago, just said:

Watched him this week in the CL. Failed to finish two one on ones with the keeper and went off injured. 

What I’d give for any of our players having 2 one on ones with a keeper lol 

Just now, turnyitb said:

What I’d give for any of our players having 2 one on ones with a keeper lol 

I know. But you could have no keeper and Timo still wouldn't score 75% of the time.

Chelsea flop’s woes continue as green light is given for January loan move, with £17m sale impossible (msn.com)

Looks like he is still perpetually off-side and tripping over his own feet.

@nonotnowjim

20 hours ago, just said:

Chelsea flop’s woes continue as green light is given for January loan move, with £17m sale impossible (msn.com)

Looks like he is still perpetually off-side and tripping over his own feet.

@nonotnowjim

Wow, not even picked for the national squad....

Just a personal opinion to those that matter in thread creation and moving them....

This is bad form and representation. Stop treating mount Werner differently to how other players have been treated. Confine all threads about him to where they belong and send them to where others have mentioned. 

Stop shoving him down our throats. We get it he is liked by some but he is also not liked by some but all agree he is not our player. Stop making threads for him in an area reserved for our Team.

On 19/10/2023 at 14:14, just said:

Chelsea flop’s woes continue as green light is given for January loan move, with £17m sale impossible (msn.com)

Looks like he is still perpetually off-side and tripping over his own feet.

@nonotnowjim

Such a lovely boy.....

going to spurs 😁

Why is he still in the Chelsea thread?

8 minutes ago, just said:

Why is he still in the Chelsea thread?

I'm waiting for VAR to call it offside 

Can't help but feel that he will be so much better in Tottenham's system than he ever was in ours. He'll still be offside 10 times a game and miss easy chances though.

He'll defintely score against us though.

Rory Jennings has made a hate filled rant about " Judas" Timo going to Spurs on his YouTube channel, and at the same time saying he was so bad he would get in a worst ever Chelsea eleven.

What a dick 

Who watches Rory Jennings lol

11 minutes ago, Sconnie Blue said:

Who watches Rory Jennings lol

Never heard of Rory Jennings, and please don't enlighten me.

https://youtu.be/MLk0U4UL24I?feature=shared