42 minutes ago, PhilH930 said:

The lad could do with a little patience, grace and humility. 

All these stories don’t really make me that fussed where his future is - bit numb to him now. Step one is wanting to be here - we can’t want it for him. 

Don't forget he's at Brighton with Billy Gilmour, and seen how we shoved him off to an awful Norwich team . Maybe he doesn't want to commit to us and get loaned again ?

None of know anyway, speculation, guesswork and rumours, the internet channels driving clicks for income, fans are the last to know anything, ..ever

Slightly confused why Colwill would be all misty eyed about his year at Brighton. He was available for 34 of their PL games, and made 13 starts, and 4 as sub, total minutes 1,218 ... in their 5 FA Cup games he started one (was subbed after 81 minutes) and also played 45 minutes as a 2nd half sub against Grimsby, so it's not as if he was a nailed on starter on his loan was it ? I'd be amazed if he made less appearances and played less minutes than that this season for us ... assuming he stays of course.

53 minutes ago, Sexyfootball said:

Slightly confused why Colwill would be all misty eyed about his year at Brighton. He was available for 34 of their PL games, and made 13 starts, and 4 as sub, total minutes 1,218 ... in their 5 FA Cup games he started one (was subbed after 81 minutes) and also played 45 minutes as a 2nd half sub against Grimsby, so it's not as if he was a nailed on starter on his loan was it ? I'd be amazed if he made less appearances and played less minutes than that this season for us ... assuming he stays of course.

The likelihood is he's using his ace cards to gain more assurances here or wants to end up at City/Liverpool and sees them as the way to get there.

Edited July 12, 20233 yr by Argo

1 hour ago, Sexyfootball said:

Slightly confused why Colwill would be all misty eyed about his year at Brighton. He was available for 34 of their PL games, and made 13 starts, and 4 as sub, total minutes 1,218 ... in their 5 FA Cup games he started one (was subbed after 81 minutes) and also played 45 minutes as a 2nd half sub against Grimsby, so it's not as if he was a nailed on starter on his loan was it ? I'd be amazed if he made less appearances and played less minutes than that this season for us ... assuming he stays of course.

Facts getting in the way of ego. His stock is on the rise, but I’d like to see him prove it in blue.

I’m unsure how much better he is than Badiashile, but there’s an example of humility if ever we’ve seen.  

Pochettino can’t guaramee  him game time.  He can say he is currently no 1 or 2 in the pecking order but that is subject to form. 
 

anyone remember when carvalho,complained publicly that Jose wasn’t picking him and Jose rebuked him publicly saying something like “Ricky just an idiot’
 

 

I genuinely wouldn't mind if we sold him, I don't think he's got the heart to stay with us, but it would need to be for his market worth, 65/70m. 

This idea that Brighton seems to think he's a 30m player baffled me. 

Edited July 12, 20233 yr by bisright1

3 hours ago, Sexyfootball said:

Slightly confused why Colwill would be all misty eyed about his year at Brighton. He was available for 34 of their PL games, and made 13 starts, and 4 as sub, total minutes 1,218 ... in their 5 FA Cup games he started one (was subbed after 81 minutes) and also played 45 minutes as a 2nd half sub against Grimsby, so it's not as if he was a nailed on starter on his loan was it ? I'd be amazed if he made less appearances and played less minutes than that this season for us ... assuming he stays of course.

Well , it's more time than he's had with the club he's been part of since the age of just 8 years old. . 

9 minutes ago, bisright1 said:

I genuinely wouldn't mind if we sold him, I don't think he's got the heart to stay with us, but it would need to be for his market worth, 65/70m. 

This idea that Brighton seems to think he's a 30m player baffled me. 

Tend to agree, similar to Mount's situation. At least Pochettino will get a chance to work with him. But if Colwill believes his own hype and think he's bigger than us, we have to sell. We have cleared the path for him to challenge starting spot, if he's good and determined to do it. He's not going to be a starter at City or Liverpool anytime soon, of course his people be telling him otherwise.

Sell him, , he's played more games for Huddersfield than he has for us.

Let him go, others gave the chance to the lad who has been a part of Chelsea since he was 8 years old and never got a look in with us.

Give him away to Brighton rather than selling him to Liverpool, and good luck to him for wanting to play regular football and not taking the shilling to warm his arse on our bench

1 hour ago, ozboy said:

Pochettino can’t guaramee  him game time.  He can say he is currently no 1 or 2 in the pecking order but that is subject to form. 
 

anyone remember when carvalho,complained publicly that Jose wasn’t picking him and Jose rebuked him publicly saying something like “Ricky just an idiot’
 

 

I remember Jose got the sack, and Carvalho still played on for us .

1 hour ago, The Rising Sun said:

I remember Jose got the sack, and Carvalho still played on for us .

That was way later. 

6 hours ago, The Rising Sun said:

Sell him, , he's played more games for Huddersfield than he has for us.

Let him go, others gave the chance to the lad who has been a part of Chelsea since he was 8 years old and never got a look in with us.

Give him away to Brighton rather than selling him to Liverpool, and good luck to him for wanting to play regular football and not taking the shilling to warm his arse on our bench

Not sure what point you are trying to make with the been with us since 8. He was part of our academy system, a system that like all other clubs releases 99% of the players they have on the basis of the perceived potential those players have. In the vast number of cases the academies are proved wrong as these released players go on to have professional careers elsewhere. Colwill is in a select band of actually getting through that 14 year old release and was kept on by the academy. 

The loans to other clubs has been anything but a disregard by the club, it has been part of a development programme. Playing for Huddersfield whilst not being able to play regularly for a CL club was absolutely the right thing to do and the move to Brighton this season has also been part of that process. It has only been the success of Brighton and the poor performance of us that has thrust all this into the limelight.

I don't read comments from Ian Maatsen's camp that he wants to have talks with manager before he decides what he's going to do, especially as like Colwill he is bound by the contract that he signed.

We all want Colwill to stay and be a success but as many have said, maintaining a low profile and dealing with your private affairs quietly would be more preferable than giving the appearance that you are hankering after a move away.

7 hours ago, bisright1 said:

I genuinely wouldn't mind if we sold him, I don't think he's got the heart to stay with us, but it would need to be for his market worth, 65/70m. 

This idea that Brighton seems to think he's a 30m player baffled me. 

Let Brighton have him + £20m and we get Caicedo, someone who wants to play for Chelsea

27 minutes ago, WhiteWall said:

Not sure what point you are trying to make with the been with us since 8. He was part of our academy system, a system that like all other clubs releases 99% of the players they have on the basis of the perceived potential those players have. In the vast number of cases the academies are proved wrong as these released players go on to have professional careers elsewhere. Colwill is in a select band of actually getting through that 14 year old release and was kept on by the academy. 

The loans to other clubs has been anything but a disregard by the club, it has been part of a development programme. Playing for Huddersfield whilst not being able to play regularly for a CL club was absolutely the right thing to do and the move to Brighton this season has also been part of that process. It has only been the success of Brighton and the poor performance of us that has thrust all this into the limelight.

I don't read comments from Ian Maatsen's camp that he wants to have talks with manager before he decides what he's going to do, especially as like Colwill he is bound by the contract that he signed.

We all want Colwill to stay and be a success but as many have said, maintaining a low profile and dealing with your private affairs quietly would be more preferable than giving the appearance that you are hankering after a move away.

I don't think @The Rising Sun was entirely serious 

Anyway, many here prefer our players to be modest and quiet, so when someone comes along, especially a very young player, with a biggish mouth, they think he's an entitled disgrace, who ultimately hasn't shown very much yet. Taking media reports (has anyone actually heard from Colwill himself?) at face value, Levi is very self-confident lad who apparently doesn't care about other people's modesty requirements. He's figuring out his immediate future, and as he's not following the preferred way to do this, the easily incensed supporters are howling. It's all very tiresome.

43 minutes ago, Valerie said:

I don't think @The Rising Sun was entirely serious 

Anyway, many here prefer our players to be modest and quiet, so when someone comes along, especially a very young player, with a biggish mouth, they think he's an entitled disgrace, who ultimately hasn't shown very much yet. Taking media reports (has anyone actually heard from Colwill himself?) at face value, Levi is very self-confident lad who apparently doesn't care about other people's modesty requirements. He's figuring out his immediate future, and as he's not following the preferred way to do this, the easily incensed supporters are howling. It's all very tiresome.

The only thing I'm pissed about is the default price for him seems to. "30m". 

He's a 60m player minimum. And if I was Pochettino I'd probably be flagging that if other clubs really wanted him to be a first team star, they'd be throwing those numbers around. 

45 minutes ago, bisright1 said:

The only thing I'm pissed about is the default price for him seems to. "30m". 

He's a 60m player minimum. And if I was Pochettino I'd probably be flagging that if other clubs really wanted him to be a first team star, they'd be throwing those numbers around. 

Agreed

Some ridiculous mental gymnastics going n here based on click bait headlines, the actual story is Colwill wants to speak to the new manager to understand his situation at the club, literally exactly the same as every other player will want to do other than maybe 2 or 3 guaranteed starters. At no point will he have "Demanded to start", yet here we have loads of fans wanting him sold because hes not proper Chelsea, doesnt want to be here or some other nonsense. How about we back a young player and wait and see if he gets his chance, which hopefully he takes and we end up with an excellent player in the team/squad. 

13 minutes ago, dkw said:

Some ridiculous mental gymnastics going n here based on click bait headlines, the actual story is Colwill wants to speak to the new manager to understand his situation at the club, literally exactly the same as every other player will want to do other than maybe 2 or 3 guaranteed starters. At no point will he have "Demanded to start", yet here we have loads of fans wanting him sold because hes not proper Chelsea, doesnt want to be here or some other nonsense. How about we back a young player and wait and see if he gets his chance, which hopefully he takes and we end up with an excellent player in the team/squad. 

I was so confused why this thread was so popular when nothing new has been said. 

10 minutes ago, dkw said:

Some ridiculous mental gymnastics going n here based on click bait headlines, the actual story is Colwill wants to speak to the new manager to understand his situation at the club, literally exactly the same as every other player will want to do other than maybe 2 or 3 guaranteed starters. At no point will he have "Demanded to start", yet here we have loads of fans wanting him sold because hes not proper Chelsea, doesnt want to be here or some other nonsense. How about we back a young player and wait and see if he gets his chance, which hopefully he takes and we end up with an excellent player in the team/squad. 

dkw - the voice of reason.

Let's hope this is sorted out and I'm sure Pochettino will convince him to stay, as I must admit, he does look the real deal and will hopefully wear that No. 26 and be skipper for seasons to come. Really good centre backs are hard to come by and we don't want to lose one we already have on our books. But he is right to be asking questions at this stage in his career when we have been such a car-crash of a club over the last season or so.

I think a great deal of the hype and chatter is generated by the media . I do feel its sensible to find out what the plan is for him.

Its very early days for the young man and as we all know form etc can just fall off a cliff and in certain cases never come back (Maguire)

I think Pochettino will talk to him and assess him in pre season if he feels he's up to the job and he has a bright future then he will stay if not

flog him to the dippers for £50/£60 mill . All will become clear ..Grasshopper

16 hours ago, azpi28 said:

it's about the mentality. No one is guaranteed to start. If he knows his worth there shouldn't be a problem that there is some competition. Now he just comes across as scared that he can't get into the team over Fofana and Badiashile. 

based on what? All he's said is he wants to play lmao Silva / Fofana / Badi are all injury prone too 

Stick a 100mil price tag on him if someone wants to take the risk all kudos to them.

14 hours ago, azpi28 said:

that's what bothers me about this. If it's January and he was fit but hasn't gotten a proper chance, that's different, but at this point he should give a new manager (especially after talking to him and were i assume he will be told that he will be a big part of the team) the benefit of the doubt.  He hasn't even spend time in the first team before. 

unfortunately i think he is a very good player, which makes this perceived attitude (if true) more annoying 

That's why I think there is credence to the story, as the old adage goes no smoke without fire. He hasn't even made it to the first team yet, still on the periphery in my opinion. 

To be fair this reminds me of when Lukaku just on the periphery of breaking into first team chose to go on loan rather than fight or try and earn a place in the team and we all know how that evolved. 

If you can't even be motivated or keen to fight for a place with all the clear outs that have happened and the current state of our defenders  and fancy Brighton start more than that competition, it shows the mentality which is not one I think players that have the fire in their belly to compete for laurels have. 

It's one thing to play regularly in a team you know is never going to be pressured to go for titles or have that expectation and another to be a squad player to compete for a place in a team that is expected to be around the top of the league and actively competing for trophies. 

16 minutes ago, abister1 said:

as the old adage goes no smoke without fire.

You must not be familiar with the British press

He's just finished an international tournament, hasn't met the new manager yet, hasn't met half the squad yet. Vague stories of discontent are easy clickbait for slow news days.

I think everyone needs to take a step back and a deep breath, too many working themselves into a frenzy for no reason here.