Just now, Scott Harris said:

Winning the Champions League isn't even on my radar, I just want to enjoy watching my team play football again. I knew at the start of the season top 4 would be very difficult this season, and that was when we had Tuchel, so I'm not even concerned by that. I just want to see any kind of upwards momentum, but it's not happening. If anything, I can only see our league position getting worse before the end of the season.

Did you enjoy the first half? I did bar their flukey goal. 

13 minutes ago, bisright1 said:

If he's not challenging for the league next season he will be out. 

Feels like there's this assumption that we either sack Potter now or we live with finishing 6th and maybe having a cup run for the next 5 years. 

There are two alternatives. We sack him in the summer / December when we reach a point that he's clearly not cut out. Or we actually do improve 

Lets face reality here, there is no sign of improvement at all. 

First there was, "lets wait till James and Chilwell is playing again" then "this is not his squad". After that "we are facing an unprecedented injury crisis".

In this game Potter has had James and Chilwell in training for at least a week, the new players are talented, our new signings have basically allowed us to create 3 starting XIs.

There should be 0 excuses for him today and yet here we are

 

I remember when we used to call it a big advantage to have 1 game a week, with extra rest, and more time to work on the team tactically. 

We have played 3 games in 4 weeks, and not won any. 

Changes today felt like they were just to keep players happy more than to win the game.

Cant see us finishing above Fulham, Brentford or Brighton. 8th is a realistic finish, assume we are less sh*t than Liverpool.

Ownership arent blind, as much as they want Potter long term, there is no way he will be here next season if we dont start to look like a competent team. Forget Dortmund, if he fails to beat Southampton at home next week, there will be massive unrest from the fans. 

The subs he made did not work 

bringing Mount on just slows us up even more why do it 

1 hour ago, dansubrosa said:

This really could have been perfect. Imagine Tuchel with this squad, we’d be unstoppable!

Boehly made a huge mistake sacking Tuchel

Abso f**king lutely. 

I make bold to say we would have won the league this season with City and Liverpool faltering. Imagine TT having £300b as well as what he had in Summer. 

We would have been at worst under TT in 4th position at this time but I suspect we would have been closer to Le Arse than City are. But guess we'll never know for sure. 

5 minutes ago, Scott Harris said:

Winning the Champions League isn't even on my radar, I just want to enjoy watching my team play football again. I knew at the start of the season top 4 would be very difficult this season, and that was when we had Tuchel, so I'm not even concerned by that. I just want to see any kind of upwards momentum, but it's not happening. If anything, I can only see our league position getting worse before the end of the season.

That’s fair. I just think if the board do plan on moving on without Potter , I’d prefer they actually do their research to find someone who’s tactics matches the players we have and that they are onboard with the vision of the club versus firing him for a quick fix in the middle of the season only for the new manager to gives us issues in the future.  We’ve seen that too many times at the club.

The first 20 minutes i was purring, this was like watching Dortmund a super slick Atleti side of old, but then, crazy defending, heads dropped no leadership shown, and we reverted to passing for possessions sake, Mudryk looks a bit lost, Enzo looks the business, like a very astute, aware and technical Cesc type, but boy Felix is a diamond polished and ready, like a more central playing Hazard, rapid, Technical, and can finish, but we need a finisher, that is so f**king obvious, 

1 hour ago, dansubrosa said:

This really could have been perfect. Imagine Tuchel with this squad, we’d be unstoppable!

Boehly made a huge mistake sacking Tuchel

My problem with this narrative is that I don't think we have this squad with Tuchel. 

13 minutes ago, bisright1 said:

If he's not challenging for the league next season he will be out. 

Feels like there's this assumption that we either sack Potter now or we live with finishing 6th and maybe having a cup run for the next 5 years. 

There are two alternatives. We sack him in the summer / December when we reach a point that he's clearly not cut out. Or we actually do improve 

I don't even think he should be guaranteed that long. If we don't see any change to our style of football and we finish any lower than 6th, then he should not be given the opportunity to ruin next season too.

1 hour ago, SwedishEntity said:

 

Very unlikely that he'll blame the refs. He is a grown man and takes responsibility himself. Only losers blame the refs for the shortcomings of themselves and their teams.

Literally7 every manager that wins anything would slaughter VAR for that decision.

1 hour ago, dansubrosa said:

This really could have been perfect. Imagine Tuchel with this squad, we’d be unstoppable!

Boehly made a huge mistake sacking Tuchel

Ermm No! & that was one of the reasons he sacked him. You seem to be forgetting the Tuchel rant about “.. we are Chelsea, we need to be competing”. Tuchel was clearly not interested in building something, you just have to see the massive difference in the profile of players signed under him and the business done in Jan. Potter being the wrong appointment doesn’t justify keeping Tuchel on. Boehly & Tuchel were headed in different directions.
 

13 minutes ago, bisright1 said:

My problem with this narrative is that I don't think we have this squad with Tuchel. 

No way. Would have had Murdyk playing as a WB, & kept on playing Koulibaly. 

45 minutes ago, Argo said:

Problem is, do we even recruit as well as we did in January under Tuchel?

As great a coach as he is, his record in the market has been very poor.

Potter has admitted he had nothing to do with the new signings in January, so what makes you think Tuchel would of been involved ?

32 minutes ago, Sconnie Blue said:

Did you enjoy the first half? I did bar their flukey goal. 

Patches of it. Some of our attacking play just before and after our goal was good. Defensively we always looked a bit off though with Cucurella doing what he always seems to do playing at LB for us. It was evident that some players were struggling as well, especially the two wingers. They wanted to play a direct game but Potter's tactics weren't allowing them the opportunity, there was also no chemistry between wingers and full backs.

22 minutes ago, bisright1 said:

My problem with this narrative is that I don't think we have this squad with Tuchel. 

I would hope that the owners would be more sensible than to let Tuchel anywhere near a mammoth transfer budget considering his record (at least with us).

Has he done the post match presser where he talks about this is a step up yet?

I did mention this second half of the season is where Potter will truly be evaluated. Things don’t improve, he’s sacked come May/June. 100%. 

12 minutes ago, PloKoon13 said:

I would hope that the owners would be more sensible than to let Tuchel anywhere near a mammoth transfer budget considering his record (at least with us).

The strange thing is Tuchel didn't need to be involved in transfers, Potter wasn't involved in transfers and we've brought in a team of people to specifically handle the recruitment side so I'm really not sure why we'd choose to sack a top coach for a poor one.

It's because increasingly clear Potter didn't do a good job at Brighton, their success has came from their recruitment not Potters coaching, Burn, White, Cucurella, Caciedo, Trossard, Sanches have all moved to or been linked with top clubs,   Mcallister has shined with Argentina, Mitoma who Potter wouldn't use is shining now.  Brightons Talent ID and recruitment has been great but the Potter wasn't doing a particularly good job at getting the most out of that talent as he could barely get a goal a game out of them.

We've made good positive changes to our recruitment side since Boehly came in but sacking a manager with a record of getting the most out of his players and being tactically sound in big games and replacing him with some lower midtable charisma vacuum isa very strange decision.

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27 minutes ago, bisright1 said:

My problem with this narrative is that I don't think we have this squad with Tuchel. 

I think that is a fair point.

If he had the right temperament though (allegedly) and if Boehly had been able to put together the back room without Tuchel being exposed to player recruitment which he stated he didn't want to do,

I know that nobody can predict it but I think that in it's purest form if Tuchel had these players to work with I think @dansubrosa, is bang on. He wouldn't be out there talking waffle in watered down press interviews.  He'd be tearing it up.

1 hour ago, SimonH said:

The hard truth is if Potter was here earlier we would be relegation fodder 

Give us time!

25 minutes ago, ducavis said:

Ermm No! & that was one of the reasons he sacked him. You seem to be forgetting the Tuchel rant about “.. we are Chelsea, we need to be competing”. Tuchel was clearly not interested in building something, you just have to see the massive difference in the profile of players signed under him and the business done in Jan. Potter being the wrong appointment doesn’t justify keeping Tuchel on. Boehly & Tuchel were headed in different directions.
 

Vivell signed the players in January, not Potter. We needed a new director of football not a new manager.

Watching Arteta on the sidelines with admiration.... I think I've hit a new low. 

2 hours ago, Andy2461 said:

Is tuchel doing anything at the moment ? 

Laughing his fking socks off mate

1 hour ago, Scott Harris said:

Ferguson, Mourinho, Ancelotti, Tuchel, Conte, Wenger, Klopp, Guardiola..........they have all called out the refs for bad mistakes, Ferguson did it every time his team didn't win and he's the most successful manager this League has ever seen. 

Even Peter Walton did it on the TV and we all know television referees are all patsies.

44 minutes ago, Scott Harris said:

I don't even think he should be guaranteed that long. If we don't see any change to our style of football and we finish any lower than 6th, then he should not be given the opportunity to ruin next season too.

If we can't get a decent result against Dortmund our season's pretty much over in February. I'd rather let a new manager build for a new season at that point than let Potter ruin our new signings for another 3 months.