13 minutes ago, Term_X said:

As for KDB & Salah, Mourinho really was the worst coach those kind of personalities could have had, I don’t buy the idea of he was the making of them and they needed the setback, as the cream always rises to the top. 

Makes it all the more bewildering that after seeing the end result of that some want him let loose on Mudryk, Gusto, Colwill, Enzo etc.

1 hour ago, evissy said:

I personally don't understand the sentiment where fans are given so much power... I personally hope they don't flinch. It is their project. If they believe the project they should go on with it even if fans can't take losses.

Especially reading the absolute horror in this forum...

 

 

And Twitter strikes again ... this is completely wrong info LOL ... it's pretty much essential to fact check absolutely everything on that platform 🙂 

Boehly's first season as Dodgers co-owner, (2012) they finished 2nd in the National League West.  2013 to 2020 inclusive they were 1st. 2021 2nd, and 2022  back to 1st. In the Play Offs they were runners up in World Series in 2017 and 2018, and won it in 2020. They retained the existing Field Manager Don Mattingly (="Tuchel") when they came on board and he won three straight division titles (2013, 2014, 2015), before Boehly hired a new guy Dave Roberts (="Potter") from 2016 onwards.

 

 

Look at what Ten Hag has done with United in just 6 months, they were in much worse shape than us last season, Potter is an absolute fraud

6 hours ago, Frankie8Lampard said:

 

Ironic considering most of the players we had before the new signings aren't up to Chelsea standard either.

17 minutes ago, timetowaste said:

Ironic considering most of the players we had before the new signings aren't up to Chelsea standard either.

Which is why it was baffling we sacked a manager that was Chelsea standard and hired one who in his previous job wasn't near Chelsea standard and who now seems to lower those standards on a weekly basis.

Edited February 23, 20233 yr by TimesUpPotter

43 minutes ago, Drogba1 said:

Look at what Ten Hag has done with United in just 6 months, they were in much worse shape than us last season, Potter is an absolute fraud

 

 

So if all the existing players were so bad, how did they get to the top 4 last year after playing around 60 games in a season? If all the signings are bad, whose fault is it, blaming the owners and the manager got sacked after 6 games? Unless we are start getting results fast, players confidence will dip more, fans losing faith. Next season out target will be the top 4 team in London

Did the squad get a day off again?

 

33 minutes ago, Deino said:

Did the squad get a day off again?

 

No, that's this Sunday!!

1 hour ago, Deino said:

Did the squad get a day off again?

 

Yes, because clearly not training is the best Potter can do for the squad. Maybe he can also disappear during matchday? Very innovative coaching indeed.

12 hours ago, evissy said:

was beaten by Simon's cousins firstborn who was crippled by blindness and ability to speak.

This guy was call Frederick and went by Blimd Freddie. 

4 hours ago, TimesUpPotter said:

Which is why it was baffling we sacked a manager that was Chelsea standard and hired one who in his previous job wasn't near Chelsea standard and who now seems to lower those standards on a weekly basis.

So rather than accept that Tuchel and the new owners had a difference of approach, and Tuchel had alienated the players and board - you still stick with the "I am baffled" line.

What is baffling to you?

1) new owner spends billions on new business

2) old manager (TT) results have been going down the pan.

3) old manager (TT) was becoming increasingly abrasive in both public and private. 

4) old manager (TT) had a very different vision of how he wanted to approach his work.

5) New owners decide that in the best interests of everyone - they should make a clean start and get in someone else who does want to work in the new structure?

How is that baffling? The same happens (new senior managers etc) in most high profile business acquisitions. 

But rather than see the rationale and logic, you continue to pedal the "I am baffled" line.....

2 hours ago, nonotnowjim said:

So rather than accept that Tuchel and the new owners had a difference of approach, and Tuchel had alienated the players and board - you still stick with the "I am baffled" line.

What is baffling to you?

1) new owner spends billions on new business

2) old manager (TT) results have been going down the pan.

3) old manager (TT) was becoming increasingly abrasive in both public and private. 

4) old manager (TT) had a very different vision of how he wanted to approach his work.

5) New owners decide that in the best interests of everyone - they should make a clean start and get in someone else who does want to work in the new structure?

How is that baffling? The same happens (new senior managers etc) in most high profile business acquisitions. 

But rather than see the rationale and logic, you continue to pedal the "I am baffled" line.....

1,4 and 5 we can all agree with, but the other two are subjective at best. Even Boehly has said his decision to sack TT was nothing to do with results. 

What is undeniable is that Potter is a huge gamble as Tuchel's replacement. He simply doesn't have the CV to suggest he can manage at a top club, and his results to date confirm that. 

9 hours ago, TimesUpPotter said:

Which is why it was baffling we sacked a manager that was Chelsea standard and hired one who in his previous job wasn't near Chelsea standard and who now seems to lower those standards on a weekly basis.

What are you going to do if Potter leaves or gets sacked what are you going to post about ?. surely times up for you if he does. I've said it before I don't think you're a Chelsea fan no one joins a forum just to post negatively on one subject all the time.

3 minutes ago, bluehaze said:

What are you going to do if Potter leaves or gets sacked what are you going to post about ?. surely times up for you if he does. I've said it before I don't think you're a Chelsea fan no one joins a forum just to post negatively on one subject all the time.

TimesUpBoehly has a nice ring to it, and should last at least a decade LOL

9 hours ago, Argo said:

 

 

So we need a DM? Lets hope Rice comes in summmer. 

 

A) Potter was identified as a good option. We hired him for 5 years. If you hire him for 5 years you have an idea of letting him build things. This is something completely opposite of Roman era. In Roman era the pressure on manager was so massive the tenures usually ended with tears...and some trophies along the way.

B) This season apart from CL is effectively over. Why would Boehly sack Potter now? Fans want to see wins naturally but for the good of the club it is best to let him work with the team and improve. Changing a man right now the cycle starts from the beginning. Every info from inside the club (reliable or not) says Potter is well regarded as a man at least. That tells me players want to work and improve. When things went like this with Jose for example, the environment for working turned into a nightmare where he himself basically fired himself (untenable). This happened with Conte and Tuchel as well in some extent at least.

C) Will long term planning work out so we are top of the table? Who knows? Is it more sustainable than Roman's model of hiring and firing... probably. Do we want sustainable model or something out of Real Madrid's playbook?... I honestly don't know...

D) City landed a manager that had brilliant history and it all worked out brilliantly. Same happened with Liverpool. Our appointment was very much different. We wanted a manager who had no such pedigree but had shown he is improving players and teams. In line with that we just signed 15 or so 20 year old players. 

E) what the future brings us I don't know but I am personally willing to have patience with the decisions. I want to align my expectations with club expectations...

4 minutes ago, evissy said:

I want to align my expectations with club expectations...

1 hour ago, evissy said:

A) Potter was identified as a good option. We hired him for 5 years. If you hire him for 5 years you have an idea of letting him build things. This is something completely opposite of Roman era. In Roman era the pressure on manager was so massive the tenures usually ended with tears...and some trophies along the way.

B) This season apart from CL is effectively over. Why would Boehly sack Potter now? Fans want to see wins naturally but for the good of the club it is best to let him work with the team and improve. Changing a man right now the cycle starts from the beginning. Every info from inside the club (reliable or not) says Potter is well regarded as a man at least. That tells me players want to work and improve. When things went like this with Jose for example, the environment for working turned into a nightmare where he himself basically fired himself (untenable). This happened with Conte and Tuchel as well in some extent at least.

C) Will long term planning work out so we are top of the table? Who knows? Is it more sustainable than Roman's model of hiring and firing... probably. Do we want sustainable model or something out of Real Madrid's playbook?... I honestly don't know...

D) City landed a manager that had brilliant history and it all worked out brilliantly. Same happened with Liverpool. Our appointment was very much different. We wanted a manager who had no such pedigree but had shown he is improving players and teams. In line with that we just signed 15 or so 20 year old players. 

E) what the future brings us I don't know but I am personally willing to have patience with the decisions. I want to align my expectations with club expectations...

This is exactly the way i'm looking at it, don't know if Potter is the right man long term but no harm giving him the season now.

Double post.

Edited February 24, 20233 yr by RIP Mourinho

1 hour ago, evissy said:

A) Potter was identified as a good option. We hired him for 5 years. If you hire him for 5 years you have an idea of letting him build things. This is something completely opposite of Roman era. In Roman era the pressure on manager was so massive the tenures usually ended with tears...and some trophies along the way.

B) This season apart from CL is effectively over. Why would Boehly sack Potter now? Fans want to see wins naturally but for the good of the club it is best to let him work with the team and improve. Changing a man right now the cycle starts from the beginning. Every info from inside the club (reliable or not) says Potter is well regarded as a man at least. That tells me players want to work and improve. When things went like this with Jose for example, the environment for working turned into a nightmare where he himself basically fired himself (untenable). This happened with Conte and Tuchel as well in some extent at least.

C) Will long term planning work out so we are top of the table? Who knows? Is it more sustainable than Roman's model of hiring and firing... probably. Do we want sustainable model or something out of Real Madrid's playbook?... I honestly don't know...

D) City landed a manager that had brilliant history and it all worked out brilliantly. Same happened with Liverpool. Our appointment was very much different. We wanted a manager who had no such pedigree but had shown he is improving players and teams. In line with that we just signed 15 or so 20 year old players. 

E) what the future brings us I don't know but I am personally willing to have patience with the decisions. I want to align my expectations with club expectations...

Agree with all of this. As annoying as the form is now we’ve got to give him until the end of the season minimum. 
 

i actually agree with what the club are putting out there and give him next season too. We’ve been the hire and fire club for 20 years which has had its positives and negatives. I’d like us to at least try and do it the other way (which seems to work for the other big teams in the league) 

 

13 hours ago, Sexyfootball said:

And Twitter strikes again ... this is completely wrong info LOL ... it's pretty much essential to fact check absolutely everything on that platform 🙂 

Boehly's first season as Dodgers co-owner, (2012) they finished 2nd in the National League West.  2013 to 2020 inclusive they were 1st. 2021 2nd, and 2022  back to 1st. In the Play Offs they were runners up in World Series in 2017 and 2018, and won it in 2020. They retained the existing Field Manager Don Mattingly (="Tuchel") when they came on board and he won three straight division titles (2013, 2014, 2015), before Boehly hired a new guy Dave Roberts (="Potter") from 2016 onwards.

 

 

Not sure how they could have finished 13th when there are only 5 teams in the NL West. Presumably for 2012 they are trying to put a negative spin on coming 2nd in the division and therefore as 12 advance to the playoffs they would have been joint 13th along with the other five 2nd placed teams. Even if this negatively emphasised comment is factually correct, as you illustrate all other points fall to sh*t anyway.

2 hours ago, bluehaze said:

What are you going to do if Potter leaves or gets sacked what are you going to post about ?. 

I'm going to celebrate us winning games or scoring goals.

8 hours ago, nonotnowjim said:

So rather than accept that Tuchel and the new owners had a difference of approach, and Tuchel had alienated the players and board - you still stick with the "I am baffled" line.

What is baffling to you?

1) new owner spends billions on new business

2) old manager (TT) results have been going down the pan.

3) old manager (TT) was becoming increasingly abrasive in both public and private. 

4) old manager (TT) had a very different vision of how he wanted to approach his work.

5) New owners decide that in the best interests of everyone - they should make a clean start and get in someone else who does want to work in the new structure?

How is that baffling? The same happens (new senior managers etc) in most high profile business acquisitions. 

But rather than see the rationale and logic, you continue to pedal the "I am baffled" line.....

You have no rationale or logic.  Not surprising because you keep posting like you're in an alternate reality and making completely wrong statements like Potter's results with us are no worse than Tuchels.

You're focusing on completely the wrong thing because you're focusing on Tuchel not Potter.   Obviously Tuchel should have stayed but if Boehly absolutely couldn't work with him and he had to go for none football reasons  you don't fire him days after a transfer window in which you've signed players specifically at his request.

And if you do fire him you replace him with a manager with a similar record of success or at least a young upcoming manager showing great potential.  If Boehly had waited a bit longer until we had a director of football we'd have likely done just that.

What you don't do is replace him with a manager that has one of the worst records out of every PL manager to ever manage over 100 games and has never won a cup match against a PL team in 3 years just because he's the media flavour of the month who really shouldn't have been on a 20 or 30 man shortlist because there were simply so many better managers avaliable.

Edited February 24, 20233 yr by TimesUpPotter