6 hours ago, ForeverCarefree said:

Even if he doesn’t sign a new contract I’d still keep him and if he eventually leaves on a free then so be it. We’ll have had his best years out of him by that stage and personally I think getting another 18 months out of him is worth way more than whatever transfer fee we could get for him.

Makes perfect sense from our pov as fans. to hell with the money, we don get any, in fact we are supplying the money in tickets/merchandise/sky subs........, so we should keep him.

7 hours ago, ForeverCarefree said:

Even if he doesn’t sign a new contract I’d still keep him and if he eventually leaves on a free then so be it. We’ll have had his best years out of him by that stage and personally I think getting another 18 months out of him is worth way more than whatever transfer fee we could get for him.

I’m sorry but you’re just blinded by emotion saying that. Say we sold him for £100 million right now and brought a similarly priced player in who could bring the same amount of goals and assists, that makes way more sense than keeping him and losing the £100 million. You’d have to have another world class player lined up but i’d rather that than lose the money. There is life after Eden as much as I love him.

Hazard junior might step up soon

16 hours ago, Kev56 said:

He’s now saying he’ll decide at the end of the season. If true, i think this is being very disrespectful to the club and could cost the club an absolute fortune if he moves on. This could once again be journo bs but by now he should have made a decision one way or another. Only a couple of days ago he was referring to want to be a club legend and now this.

Getting a bit f**ked of with this lately.

I'm not the only one-

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-6535625/Chelsea-manager-Maurizio-Sarri-tired-Eden-Hazard-uncertainty.html

2 hours ago, rtwelch said:

I’m sorry but you’re just blinded by emotion saying that. Say we sold him for £100 million right now and brought a similarly priced player in who could bring the same amount of goals and assists, that makes way more sense than keeping him and losing the £100 million. You’d have to have another world class player lined up but i’d rather that than lose the money. There is life after Eden as much as I love him.

Eden is so much more than the goals and assists.

9 hours ago, rtwelch said:

I’m sorry but you’re just blinded by emotion saying that. Say we sold him for £100 million right now and brought a similarly priced player in who could bring the same amount of goals and assists, that makes way more sense than keeping him and losing the £100 million. You’d have to have another world class player lined up but i’d rather that than lose the money. There is life after Eden as much as I love him.

We ain't getting 100m for hazard.

I reckon he's worth 50-70m in current market conditions and contract situation. 

9 hours ago, Richard P said:

Hazard junior might step up soon

What do you mean might step up? Thorgan Hazard has 14 goals and 6 assists this season. 

2 hours ago, benjsross said:

I reckon he's worth 50-70m in current market conditions and contract situation. 

Forget the market value, that goes out the window when a top 5 in the World player becomes available, any amount is possible.

For 70m we could keep him for two more seasons and lose no sleep on any lost transfer fee.

 

 

15 hours ago, Argo said:

And not to mention, he could do an Ozil and change his mind.

Ozil had no takers though because of his inconsistency & demands.

16 minutes ago, coco said:

Forget the market value, that goes out the window when a top 5 in the World player becomes available, any amount is possible.

For 70m we could keep him for two more seasons and lose no sleep on any lost transfer fee.

 

 

Ha but that wouldn’t happen. We have been down this road with Courtois before; I reckon he will string us along till the summer & see if Real Madrid put in an offer for him, and then use us getting top 4 or a lack of top 4 as an excuse. You can be rest assured Real Madrid wouldn’t make a move till End of July/ Early August, & that offer will be a derisory offer like they did with Courtois (£35m + toss us a loan player when every one was certain he was worth £50m+). In the interim all summer Hazard will be banging on about his love for Madrid (see Courtois) and how he only wants to play for them. I don’t expect Madrid to bid more than £50m, and we will be left scrambling to sign an overvalued replacement with one week to go (see Kepa).

Our lack of a football director hurts in this respect, as any good FD will have us signing 1-2 good wingers in Jan so we don’t get ripped off in the summer/ prepare for the inevitable (See Arsenal). Might be unpopular but I have always insisted you force his hands & give him an ultimatum (see Arsenal with Ramsey/Sanchez). If he doesn’t sign up by Jan, you make him available to a wider market. That way you will still get offers of over £100m; Bayern need 2 top wingers to replace Ribery and Robben. Hazard will then see how much Madrid really values him if a bid comes in or not. 

Before anyone says something about he is worth more to us than money in the bank, why hasn’t he signed a new contract in the last year? Liverpool gave Suarez/Coutinho improved contracts with a clause inserted, why hasn’t Hazard done the same? Scary thing is the longer this goes on, the more likely the odds of us starting next season with Willian & Pedro as our 1st choice options on the wings.

 

17 minutes ago, ducavis said:

Ha but that wouldn’t happen. We have been down this road with Courtois before; I reckon he will string us along till the summer & see if Real Madrid put in an offer for him, and then use us getting top 4 or a lack of top 4 as an excuse. You can be rest assured Real Madrid wouldn’t make a move till End of July/ Early August, & that offer will be a derisory offer like they did with Courtois (£35m + toss us a loan player when every one was certain he was worth £50m+). In the interim all summer Hazard will be banging on about his love for Madrid (see Courtois) and how he only wants to play for them. I don’t expect Madrid to bid more than £50m, and we will be left scrambling to sign an overvalued replacement with one week to go (see Kepa).

Our lack of a football director hurts in this respect, as any good FD will have us signing 1-2 good wingers in Jan so we don’t get ripped off in the summer/ prepare for the inevitable (See Arsenal). Might be unpopular but I have always insisted you force his hands & give him an ultimatum (see Arsenal with Ramsey/Sanchez). If he doesn’t sign up by Jan, you make him available to a wider market. That way you will still get offers of over £100m; Bayern need 2 top wingers to replace Ribery and Robben. Hazard will then see how much Madrid really values him if a bid comes in or not. 

Before anyone says something about he is worth more to us than money in the bank, why hasn’t he signed a new contract in the last year? Liverpool gave Suarez/Coutinho improved contracts with a clause inserted, why hasn’t Hazard done the same? Scary thing is the longer this goes on, the more likely the odds of us starting next season with Willian & Pedro as our 1st choice options on the wings.

 

The lack of a football director and signing Pulisic to be Nike's poster boy in the US suggests to me the club is only interested in increasing revenue. Hazard wants to win things and the way we're going he won't get it here, can't say I blame him if he wants to leave.

@the special one

If we were interested in signing Pulisic earlier this summer I highly doubt anyone would've been complaining. He's been injured and out of form so far this seasons, hence the doubts. Let's not forget he's only 20 years old with tons of potential. Liverpool seem to be interested in him as well. Maybe a gamble at a high price but it seems you're suggesting we're only interested because he's American and that increases the club's revenue? I can't see that being the case.

Do we seriously think Madrid won't pursue a more prolific striker than Hazard, ie Kane, or Salah, they need to replace CR7s goals, it's just supposition atm,i now think he will stay, because RMs needs are different, Bale provides what hazard does for them, they need goals.....

4 hours ago, kiwi1691 said:

What do you mean might step up? Thorgan Hazard has 14 goals and 6 assists this season. 

I was talking purely about his Chelsea career. Which would be a step up

15 hours ago, rtwelch said:

I’m sorry but you’re just blinded by emotion saying that. Say we sold him for £100 million right now and brought a similarly priced player in who could bring the same amount of goals and assists, that makes way more sense than keeping him and losing the £100 million. You’d have to have another world class player lined up but i’d rather that than lose the money. There is life after Eden as much as I love him.

Name me a player we could buy anywhere near as good Hazard for £100m? When slightly above average players like Courtinho are selling for £120m it’s really not a buyers market anymore.

We’re not even nailed on to qualify for Champions League football next season and good luck attracting an elite footballer as good as Hazard when you don’t have European football to offer let alone selling the prospect of joining a team that’s not challenging for the title.

Hazard staying improves our chances of doing both those things and if he eventually left for nothing than so be it. We’ve a better chance of attracting top talent all the while Hazard is here rather than selling him for a minimal return.

3 hours ago, ducavis said:

Ozil had no takers though because of his inconsistency & demands.

Someone would have certainly took a punt if he was a free agent.

For all his many faults he has creativity and vision that few in world football can match.

6 hours ago, benjsross said:

We ain't getting 100m for hazard.

I reckon he's worth 50-70m in current market conditions and contract situation. 

If Pulisic can demand 45M with one year left on his contract, 70M for Hazard is the floor, not the ceiling.

 

3 hours ago, Argo said:

Someone would have certainly took a punt if he was a free agent.

For all his many faults he has creativity and vision that few in world football can match.

Seems he is on the outs with Arsenal, will be interesting to see if anyone bids for him. He is the true definition of a luxury player; and bar PSG style wise, I can’t see any team effectively getting the best of out of him.

3 hours ago, ForeverCarefree said:

Name me a player we could buy anywhere near as good Hazard for £100m? When slightly above average players like Courtinho are selling for £120m it’s really not a buyers market anymore.

We’re not even nailed on to qualify for Champions League football next season and good luck attracting an elite footballer as good as Hazard when you don’t have European football to offer let alone selling the prospect of joining a team that’s not challenging for the title.

Hazard staying improves our chances of doing both those things and if he eventually left for nothing than so be it. We’ve a better chance of attracting top talent all the while Hazard is here rather than selling him for a minimal return.

Do you see us running down Hazard’s contract because I can’t see it? Who was the last player that ever wanted out of a team and the team held on to him till his contract ran out? Players have too much power now and like we have seen with Costa/Courtois, will just refuse to show up for preseason. I expect Hazard to go this route this summer if Madrid make their intentions known early, and submit a bit no matter how derisory. 

This is why a club with a technical director will get ahead of the issue and either give him an ultimatum to sign a contract so as to extract the maximum value, failure to comply will mean selling him or get replacement(s) in place in Jan. As things stand we are losing 4 30+ squad members in the summer, need a 9, add on Hazard? And that is 6 new players between Jan & start of next season. Interesting times ahead...

@ducavis no don’t see us running his contract down, just saying that what I would personally prefer because if he’s not going to sign a new deal I can’t see a way we come out of it without a weaker squad.

Can’t help but think about when Spurs sold Bale and how they spent the money afterwards. Can anyone honestly say they’re not worried we’d do the same given some of our recent signings?

Why we’ve not hired a new technical director is anyone’s guess. I’d certainly feel better if we hired a replacement. It’s been a year now and we’re heading into our third window without anyone in that role, so who knows who is dictating our transfer strategy? 

 

10 hours ago, ForeverCarefree said:

Name me a player we could buy anywhere near as good Hazard for £100m? When slightly above average players like Courtinho are selling for £120m it’s really not a buyers market anymore.

We’re not even nailed on to qualify for Champions League football next season and good luck attracting an elite footballer as good as Hazard when you don’t have European football to offer let alone selling the prospect of joining a team that’s not challenging for the title.

Hazard staying improves our chances of doing both those things and if he eventually left for nothing than so be it. We’ve a better chance of attracting top talent all the while Hazard is here rather than selling him for a minimal return.

It’s a good point. I absolutely love Hazard and I really really hope we tie him down and buy a top class striker and right winger for him to play with and off but I just think back to when Mata left and how gutted I was, but alas life went on. 

In regards to LW, just floating ideas IF EH wants to leave:

Dembele?

Martial?

Coman?

Brandt?

Bailey?

 

 

 

2 hours ago, rtwelch said:

It’s a good point. I absolutely love Hazard and I really really hope we tie him down and buy a top class striker and right winger for him to play with and off but I just think back to when Mata left and how gutted I was, but alas life went on. 

In regards to LW, just floating ideas IF EH wants to leave:

Dembele?

Martial?

Coman?

Brandt?

Bailey?

 

 

 

Hudson-Odoi?.......you never know, he could be one of the next stars of the game.

Had a relatively quiet game yesterday back in his preferred position on the wing.

Him and Giroud kept trying one touch flicks to each other that just weren’t coming off all game.

Given that Morata is making Chris Sutton look like and all time Chelsea striking legend right now I think Eden might be playing a few more games as the false 9 yet.

 

 

Edited December 31, 20187 yr by mojo

f**king hell we really need him to stay.......become a proper legend like the others before him. He wont get the same adulation at RM, f**k no he wont.

Pulisic in. Rumours about Hazard going to RM will definitely grow to unrivaled levels of BS now ... My fear though, is if hazard decides to listen to the snake at RM and indulges in the BS spread across europe that Hazard's next destination will be RM. What do you think? I hope it"s false, but when our best player has sparkles in his eyes whenever he talks about those mugs, I fear the worst now ...