2 hours ago, Zeta said:

Well clearly nothing else is working. It's not a confidence thing, he's just a poor footballer and out of his depth. 

And calling him sh*t in public will only make him play worse.

1 hour ago, RIP Mourinho said:

And calling him sh*t in public will only make him play worse.

It’s not possible. 

Happily write off 30M on him if another club could take him off us. On the odd occasions, he looked like a good player. Yet in most games, he looked like a rugby player learning football, lack so much of the basics people take for granted at this level. If he could't get minutes at Milan, he won't make it in most teams in this league.

Milan giving him until the November international break to prove himself or they're sending him back.

55 minutes ago, carrickblue said:

Milan giving him until the November international break to prove himself or they're sending him back.

We should loan him back to Monaco and have him play in France again until the summer, if that happens. That is the only way I can see us regaining a little bit of the money we spent on him when we try selling him.

It doesn't seem like the best approach from Gattuso, especially considering what Maka said before he moved to London:

"When I came [to Monaco] I saw him on the bench. He never played or was a substitute, I’m like OK. I'd seen a lot of video of him, so I come to see him in the training ground.

"One day I decided to talk to him, I come down and every day I spend it with him. [He had] this wall, this midfielder, the way he plays, he does a lot of wrong things.

"After I see that it’s not only football, the different way is the problem he has I just wanted to clear this way, but I can’t explain everything [with his personal life] so let’s just talk about football.

"I talked with him, cleaned him the way he needed to be free in the head. To play as a midfielder you need to be 100 per cent concentrated. If it’s always a little problem here, little problem there, you can’t focus on your job you know? I talked a lot with him, like a full month with him every day, explaining things on the training ground.

"Focusing on him, not just him, but a lot of players like [Kylian] Mbappe or [Thomas] Lemar who also were on the bench. So when I decided I was leaving, I said to the boss: listen this player needs to play more time, he needs more competition and then you’ll see.

"The next season this happened and it's like genius no? I think Bakayoko, I don’t know if he’s going to Chelsea or Manchester, but it will be good for him, he’ll be stronger. He has good qualities. He’s good, he needs time and he needs to learn also in the Premier League, as it’s not easy the Premier League.

"He’s not one to get scared. He makes the decisions all the time, sometimes it’s wrong, but this kind of player will make mistakes in order to get better. He has quality as a dribbler, passer, the timing of the pass. He’s good, very good. Now he needs one manager that will make him a big player."

Can hardly blame a manager for not wanting to play someone who is consistently awful and shows little sign of improving. Especially if he's on loan, it's not like they've invested much money in him.

2 hours ago, carrickblue said:

Milan giving him until the November international break to prove himself or they're sending him back.

He’ll 100% be back in November then. Maybe we could loan him to a National League side? Might be above his level still. 

3 hours ago, carrickblue said:

Milan giving him until the November international break to prove himself or they're sending him back.

Not sure Bakayoko would survive the knock to his confidence if sent back from his loan spell from an already struggling Milan side. 

Something isn’t mentally right with him, seems to me like he’s got a mental block that’s stopping him playing the way he should. 

Absolutely bizarre we parted with £40m for him in hindsight. Part of the worst transfer window of the Roman era. 

Perhaps a loan to a French side might be the tonic he needs.

Whoever scouted him needs to be taken to one side and scolded. We used to scout much better than this. It does seem like that a bit of incompetency has set in recently with our transfer dealings. Not sure why. For the money they're likely earning, we as fans expect better from the powers above. 

Not sure if it's a mid life crisis, or I know f**k all about football, but  in a funny sort of way, i'm missing him!!!!!!!

There must be one or 2 Clubs in EPL who would take him on board.......what a f**king waste man. And you know we aint getting good Money by selling him.

9 hours ago, Zeta said:

Can hardly blame a manager for not wanting to play someone who is consistently awful 

9 hours ago, Zeta said:

Can hardly blame a manager for not wanting to play someone who is consistently awful and shows little sign of improving.

We did it for two years with Torres.

Roman insisted upon it.

Edited October 13, 20187 yr by just

At least Torres contributed to things. Bakayoko was a mess since day 1. Has never looked capable since arrival and his stock has plummeted. Lucky to get half what we paid in a inflated market 

Edited October 14, 20187 yr by Chelsbear

18 hours ago, enigma said:

Whoever scouted him needs to be taken to one side and scolded. We used to scout much better than this. It does seem like that a bit of incompetency has set in recently with our transfer dealings. Not sure why. For the money they're likely earning, we as fans expect better from the powers above. 

It was Emenalo. And he’s now at Monaco, go figure.

On 13/10/2018 at 17:03, ForeverCarefree said:

Not sure Bakayoko would survive the knock to his confidence if sent back from his loan spell from an already struggling Milan side. 

Something isn’t mentally right with him, seems to me like he’s got a mental block that’s stopping him playing the way he should. 

Absolutely bizarre we parted with £40m for him in hindsight. Part of the worst transfer window of the Roman era. 

For me, he's the worst signing we've made in the Roman era, for the money we spent and on how bad he is. I don't think I've seen a worse player to wear the blue, I hate being negative and rude towards our players but Bakayoko's performances used to stress me out so much. 

If he comes back I don't expect him to get 5 minutes of game time, that would be at someone else's expense. He's a waste of money and we need to get rid of him asap, he's nothing but a negative atmosphere in this club. 

On 15/10/2018 at 00:49, rtwelch said:

It was Emenalo. And he’s now at Monaco, go figure.

Emenalo is long gone and people still want to blame him for everything they don't like, pathetic.

If not the DOF then who elses fault was it? Or do we play the 'I don't like manager x therefore it was a manager x buy'

49 minutes ago, kiwi1691 said:

Emenalo is long gone and people still want to blame him for everything they don't like, pathetic.

I think it was though at that time, although it is just pure speculation I guess. Nobody knew what Emanalo was doing, however, people in his position do tend to make a lot of signings and sales. 

1 hour ago, kiwi1691 said:

Emenalo is long gone and people still want to blame him for everything they don't like, pathetic.

Hardly pathetic I was just answering the guy’s question. It was widely reported, including on here that Emenalo had scouted Bakayoko. Just ironic that he then moved to Monaco & Bakayoko’s basic footballing skills were non-existent.

8 hours ago, rtwelch said:

Hardly pathetic I was just answering the guy’s question. It was widely reported, including on here that Emenalo had scouted Bakayoko. Just ironic that he then moved to Monaco & Bakayoko’s basic footballing skills were non-existent.

Conte at the very least approved the signing else he would never have played him.

Didn't Emenalo go to Monaco? Thats going well then.....

Edited October 16, 20187 yr by dkw

4 hours ago, Argo said:

Conte at the very least approved the signing else he would never have played him.

True, and the many instances Conte played him when he was clearly not good enough.