One game he can be fantastic, one game he can cost us some strange goals.

He has a lot to improve to be honest, Ziyech's goal shouldn't be conceded, every GK must push that ball upwards.

Let's hope he will improve his work in the air.

15 minutes ago, IliyaKrostin said:

One game he can be fantastic, one game he can cost us some strange goals.

He has a lot to improve to be honest, Ziyech's goal shouldn't be conceded, every GK must push that ball upwards.

Let's hope he will improve his work in the air.

I actually thought he was a lot better for us last season. He wasn't conceding many goals that I thought he should be saving, but this season, he's been doing it a lot. It's like you say, he's having one good game and one bad game at the moment, he needs to get back to his best.

What on earth were we thinking spending 70m, or even signing this guy?! 

It's not as though the glaring flaws in his game wouldn't have been spotted by our scouts. His absolute refusal to claim ANY delivery would have been apparent to anyone watching. On top of that his positioning is sketchy at best. 

De Gea has similar flaws but makes/made up for it with staggering reflexes, which some fans try to claim Kepa displays, don't see it myself. Collosal waste of money. 

 

20 minutes ago, Crapbag said:

What on earth were we thinking spending 70m, or even signing this guy?! 

It's not as though the glaring flaws in his game wouldn't have been spotted by our scouts. His absolute refusal to claim ANY delivery would have been apparent to anyone watching. On top of that his positioning is sketchy at best. 

De Gea has similar flaws but makes/made up for it with staggering reflexes, which some fans try to claim Kepa displays, don't see it myself. Collosal waste of money. 

 

He's not THAT bad. I would pick him over De Gea now. De Gea has faded badly since the world cup, he doesn't look anywhere near as good as he used to be. Kepa has some weaknesses but he has strengths that a lot of keepers don't have and they are needed for the way we play. He's made more mistakes than usual this season, but last season he was solid enough and I would like to believe he can get back to that level. You mention the price but it's something we had to do, we only had Caballero at the time and we were desperate for a goalkeeper.

You say he isn't good enough, but who in the league outside of Allison and Ederson could do a better job? 

Edited November 5, 20196 yr by Scott Harris

5 minutes ago, Scott Harris said:

You mention the price but it's something we had to do, we only had Caballero at the time and we were desperate for a goalkeeper.

You say he isn't good enough, but who in the league outside of Allison and Ederson could do a better job? 

We shouldn't have been desperate. Big nose had made it abundantly clear he wanted out for a good 18 months, and wasn't signing a contract. Kepa was available 6 months before we bought him for 20m! Which begs the question when did we start looking at him? Did we do next to no homework and splash 70m, or did we pay 50m more than we needed to due to incompetence? Either way it's damning.

As for who could do better, that's not my responsibility, but the Ajax keeper himself has been rated for a while. Ultimately I'm saying it wasn't, or at least shouldn't have been, 70m Kepa or Caballero.

Our DOF should know a good young keeper when he see's one. Wonder if he's looking for one ?

Should have bought Pickford or Butland.....

 

26 minutes ago, Scott Harris said:

He's not THAT bad. I would pick him over De Gea now. De Gea has faded badly since the world cup, he doesn't look anywhere near as good as he used to be. Kepa has some weaknesses but he has strengths that a lot of keepers don't have and they are needed for the way we play. He's made more mistakes than usual this season, but last season he was solid enough and I would like to believe he can get back to that level. You mention the price but it's something we had to do, we only had Caballero at the time and we were desperate for a goalkeeper.

You say he isn't good enough, but who in the league outside of Allison and Ederson could do a better job? 

I think he's level with Ederson. Ederson is very partial to bad games and the type of form we're seeing from Kepa (for example watch his keeping for Southampton goal this weekend). The advantage he has over Kepa is he has been playing for a complete team.

City look like they're slowly returning to human levels and the more they get to it, the more we will see Ederson's weaknesses come to the fore a bit more.

He’ll be fine.  More worried about our defense, sloppy passes leading to the goals, and poor fouls in bad areas.  Set pieces need work too.  Kepa is certainly not at fault, though I do agree he was better last season.  I’m confident he’ll be fine though, and Cech should be a good presence as he develops further.

Cech needs to have a word with him. I believe he's better than what he's shown us this season. 

7 hours ago, Scott Harris said:

He's not THAT bad. I would pick him over De Gea now. De Gea has faded badly since the world cup, he doesn't look anywhere near as good as he used to be. Kepa has some weaknesses but he has strengths that a lot of keepers don't have and they are needed for the way we play. He's made more mistakes than usual this season, but last season he was solid enough and I would like to believe he can get back to that level. You mention the price but it's something we had to do, we only had Caballero at the time and we were desperate for a goalkeeper.

You say he isn't good enough, but who in the league outside of Allison and Ederson could do a better job? 

Just because he’s not THAT bad doesn’t mean he should get away scot free mate. He might be better than the current De Gea but he’s not anywhere near the level De Gea was a few years ago when he was single handily winning United points.

 

What are the strengths he has that other keepers don’t? Because anything beyond a normal pass out to Jorginho/the defence. Whenever he tries these chipped balls out to the wings far too often they go out the park for a throw in for me, especially when it’s meant to be a strength of his.  We concede a lot from set plays but I struggle to think of many times where he comes out and clears everything to lift the pressure on us, even balls in and around the 6 yard box.
 

Hopefully he improves but as it stands he’s regressed since last season and that’s a worry.

7 hours ago, Munkworth said:

Should have bought Pickford or Butland.....

 

Ben Foster, surely? 😉

5 hours ago, Amputechture said:

Ben Foster, surely? 😉

No,  he missed a sitter at the weekend.

14 hours ago, IliyaKrostin said:

One game he can be fantastic, one game he can cost us some strange goals.

He has a lot to improve to be honest, Ziyech's goal shouldn't be conceded, every GK must push that ball upwards.

Let's hope he will improve his work in the air.

Even within games he can be inconsistent. Not good last night but pulled off a fine save at the end to earn a point, as he did on Saturday.

For sure, not a £70 keeper atm,  but he's still young so stick with him for now.

 

10 years ago I'd be worried about him and probably say we need to find a new keeper but now not so much.

The way the games evolved a truly world class keeper like Cech isn't as crucial as it use to be. City have won back to back titles with a keeper who's prone to letting in weak shots too. Madrid won a three CL's on the spin with Keylor Navas in goal. Juve have maintained their Serie A dominance with Szcezny in the nets.

Better we become, more Kepa's strengths will come to the fore and weaknesses will be better hidden.

4 hours ago, Argo said:

City have won back to back titles with a keeper who's prone to letting in weak shots too. Madrid won a three CL's on the spin with Keylor Navas in goal. Juve have maintained their Serie A dominance with Szcezny in the nets.

Ederson is comfortably better than Kepa, Navas was adored by Madrid whom were distraught he was replaced (especially by big nose) and Juventus could win that league without a goalkeeper.

These are shocking examples. Kepa has been very poor this season, simple as that. 

 

Keepers always look poor when the defensive is abit dodgy as they’re far more exposed. Look at Cech under AVB. People were saying the same but he went on to have his best ever season. 
 

Im not worried by Kepa, he’s a quality keeper and there’s still room for him to develop. 

Premier league, shots against, on target, from first 11 games.

Liverpool not surprisingly are top, they have only allowed 27 shots against on target, and out of those 27 they let in 9 goals 27/9

Chelsea are 2nd, only allowing 34 shots on target, but we have let in 17 of those goals 34/17 (=50% of shots on target go in against us)

Sheff utd 37/8 

Leicester 38/8

Man City 41/10

 

23 hours ago, Crapbag said:

What on earth were we thinking spending 70m, or even signing this guy?! 

It's not as though the glaring flaws in his game wouldn't have been spotted by our scouts. His absolute refusal to claim ANY delivery would have been apparent to anyone watching. On top of that his positioning is sketchy at best. 

De Gea has similar flaws but makes/made up for it with staggering reflexes, which some fans try to claim Kepa displays, don't see it myself. Collosal waste of money. 

 

De Gea was much worse in his first 2/3 seasons at Utd. Kepa has also now replaced De Gea in the national team.

51 minutes ago, RIP Mourinho said:

De Gea was much worse in his first 2/3 seasons at Utd. Kepa has also now replaced De Gea in the national team.

he was garbage the first season and much of the second for MUFC before becoming the best keeper in the league for a few seasons.

13 hours ago, Crapbag said:

Ederson is comfortably better than Kepa, Navas was adored by Madrid whom were distraught he was replaced (especially by big nose) and Juventus could win that league without a goalkeeper.

These are shocking examples. Kepa has been very poor this season, simple as that. 

 

Has someone come back after a third banning?

1 hour ago, yorkleyblue said:

Has someone come back after a third banning?

Great contribution

18 hours ago, Crapbag said:

Ederson is comfortably better than Kepa, 

Disagree, and i think you'll start seeing where I come from when City decline into "just" a top team as opposed to the super human one they currently are.

For example look at what's happened to him at Anfield in the past, one of the grounds where City and by extension him really get got at. He looks a wreck at that stadium every time.

18 hours ago, Crapbag said:

Kepa has been very poor this season

Never said otherwise.

17 hours ago, coco said:

Premier league, shots against, on target, from first 11 games.

Liverpool not surprisingly are top, they have only allowed 27 shots against on target, and out of those 27 they let in 9 goals 27/9

Chelsea are 2nd, only allowing 34 shots on target, but we have let in 17 of those goals 34/17 (=50% of shots on target go in against us)

Sheff utd 37/8 

Leicester 38/8

Man City 41/10

 

 

If these stats are correct, they're pretty damning. Even worse, they don't factor in the fact he can't claim a cross to save his life, thereby putting our defence under unnecessary pressure. He needs to up his game because I have no doubt Frank and Petr will strengthen if they think they can. Remember, Kepa arrived before Frank and Petr's appointments, so they won't have any qualms about getting in their own man. Kepa needs to impress them if he wants to stay, and right now, I doubt very much he's doing that. He needs to up his game. On his day, he's quality, as we saw in Ajax, but this season he has been pretty average for the most part. Even worse than average judging by those stats.

24 minutes ago, Davey Baby said:

 

If these stats are correct, they're pretty damning. Even worse, they don't factor in the fact he can't claim a cross to save his life, thereby putting our defence under unnecessary pressure. He needs to up his game because I have no doubt Frank and Petr will strengthen if they think they can. Remember, Kepa arrived before Frank and Petr's appointments, so they won't have any qualms about getting in their own man. Kepa needs to impress them if he wants to stay, and right now, I doubt very much he's doing that. He needs to up his game. On his day, he's quality, as we saw in Ajax, but this season he has been pretty average for the most part. Even worse than average judging by those stats.

Thing is, who is going to give us 70m for him?