22 minutes ago, Sconnie Blue said:

Given reports are suggesting the club want to sign young players, you can only conclude that the club have put a lot of faith in Potter into developing these younger players to understand his vision. Think ready made talent will be few and far between.

Think based on this approach it is very much the long game. Don't know how long the club will suffer results wise in the meantime, but based on this philosophy the goal is to eventually reach the Top 1-3 and stay there vs go up and down the table season after season. 

 

Peversly I think City being as good as they are may help us see the "project" through this time.

When we tried it a decade ago there were no outstanding teams in this league and we knew bringing Jose back would pretty much guarantee another title so the temptation was there and ultimately too hard to resist.

This time round however there's no easy shortcut button we can press.

On 22/12/2022 at 15:34, Sconnie Blue said:

Given reports are suggesting the club want to sign young players, you can only conclude that the club have put a lot of faith in Potter into developing these younger players to understand his vision. Think ready made talent will be few and far between.

Think based on this approach it is very much the long game. Don't know how long the club will suffer results wise in the meantime, but based on this philosophy the goal is to eventually reach the Top 1-3 and stay there vs go up and down the table season after season. 

 

Personally I don't mind the waiting game and am happy we are taking a different approach then what we've done for the last five years but I worry not every Chelsea fan will be willing to wait especially on the back end of winning the CL a couple of seasons ago. That I think will be Boehly's biggest test.

15 hours ago, Frankie8Lampard said:

Personally I don't mind the waiting game and am happy we are taking a different approach then what we've done for the last five years but I worry not every Chelsea fan will be willing to wait especially on the back end of winning the CL a couple of seasons ago. That I think will be Boehly's biggest test.

So what? It's rare when every supporter is pleased by the way the club is being run. I can think of only one example (the Super League) when supporters' opinion may have changed the mind of the board members. Boehly's test will come in about 5 years, when the investments will have to start making money. 

Linked in a rag based on interaction with fans bit it looks like Todd could win a few brownie points, and likely improve our medical team, if he bring back Dr. Eva, who appears interested at the idea:

https://www.dailystar.co.uk/sport/football/eva-carneiro-chelsea-return-doctor-28833000

 

6 hours ago, Valerie said:

So what? It's rare when every supporter is pleased by the way the club is being run. I can think of only one example (the Super League) when supporters' opinion may have changed the mind of the board members. Boehly's test will come in about 5 years, when the investments will have to start making money. 

Yeah much like with Roman, spend big at the start and then make it efficient. Enjoy the money while it lasts as I’m sure it will dry up at some point. Though Bohley seems to know what he’s doing. 

Still thankful that we got Bohley - we could have ended up with anyone crazy nutter. Think Mike Ashley, Venkey’s etc. 

Bohley has stuck to his word so far and done what he said he would do. 

In some ways I wish we had Boehly as owner sooner. I may sound ungrateful and I'm certainly not that as I appreciate everything Roman did, but Boehly & Co seem like they have a solid plan for the future, which is something I never felt was there with Roman. It was just hire and fire with no real strategy. 

1 hour ago, enigma said:

In some ways I wish we had Boehly as owner sooner. I may sound ungrateful and I'm certainly not that as I appreciate everything Roman did, but Boehly & Co seem like they have a solid plan for the future, which is something I never felt was there with Roman. It was just hire and fire with no real strategy. 

Yeah I think when you look at how the club was ran under Roman, there wasn’t much structure or plan. Towards the end, we had turned into a cup team and had dropped down a level from being elite. 

He lands Enzo he's Papa Boehly from now on. 

I hoo

3 hours ago, Sconnie Blue said:

He lands Enzo he's Papa Boehly from now on. 

The figures quoted are ridiculous. If these players don't match the fee then we are finished as a club. We don't have Roman to bail out bad signings, we need to get it right and buy better.

5 hours ago, JM7 said:

Yeah I think when you look at how the club was ran under Roman, there wasn’t much structure or plan. Towards the end, we had turned into a cup team and had dropped down a level from being elite. 

I believe when Boehly came to the club he mentioned that he was surprised how underwhelming we had been run, which says a lot really.

They were surprised there was such a lack of statistical analysis etc. I can't remember exactly what he said, but it was along those lines.

If you go back to Mourinho's second stint at the club, the transfer windows were certainly underwhelming, as were the ones since Conte won the league. 

8 hours ago, enigma said:

I believe when Boehly came to the club he mentioned that he was surprised how underwhelming we had been run, which says a lot really.

They were surprised there was such a lack of statistical analysis etc. I can't remember exactly what he said, but it was along those lines.

If you go back to Mourinho's second stint at the club, the transfer windows were certainly underwhelming, as were the ones since Conte won the league. 

I remember Boehly talking about the lack of data analytics at the club, when it came to identifying and potentially signing players.

19 hours ago, JM7 said:

Yeah I think when you look at how the club was ran under Roman, there wasn’t much structure or plan. Towards the end, we had turned into a cup team and had dropped down a level from being elite. 

All those praising Boehly hold on. Let's wait until we win a trophy before we start singing his praises. All his big spending and plans, it will mean nothing at the end. At least Roman won the league in his 1st/2nd year and 19 more trophies, making Chelsea the most successful club in Europe. Winning to ECL titles does not drop you down from being an elite club.

Just now, Edjmendy said:

All those praising Boehly hold on! Let's wait until we win a trophy before we start singing his praises. All his big spending and plans, it will mean nothing at the end. At least Roman won the league in his 1st/2nd year and 19 more trophies, making Chelsea the most successful club in Europe. Winning to ECL titles does not drop you down from being an elite club.

 

8 hours ago, Jezz said:

I remember Boehly talking about the lack of data analytics at the club, when it came to identifying and potentially signing players.

Roman used to buy players from listening to old Piet De Visser and others from flavor of the month sports "news"

 

3 hours ago, Edjmendy said:

All those praising Boehly hold on. Let's wait until we win a trophy before we start singing his praises. All his big spending and plans, it will mean nothing at the end. At least Roman won the league in his 1st/2nd year and 19 more trophies, making Chelsea the most successful club in Europe. Winning to ECL titles does not drop you down from being an elite club.

It's going to take an awful lot for Boehly to eclipse Roman's spell overall but while he's not been perfect I certainly am favouring the way we're being run so far to late era Roman despite the UCL win.

The Lukaku deal sums it up for me, we must have just put 2+2 together (team who creates loads of chances adds a goalscorer and boom) and came up with 5 and it totally killed the momentum we built with Tuchel's first six months. And that's before we get into the fact that basic research on his character should have scared us off anyway.

His player signings have been going well. Had we not been cursed by injuries, we would have fared better

That said,  we need midfielders Todd! 

Edited December 31, 20223 yr by Deino

 

Facts, none of the aforementioned were perfect. One thing they did know how to do was win

52 minutes ago, LongtimerLurker said:

 

Facts, none of the aforementioned were perfect. One thing they did know how to do was win

100% they were ruthless with a winning mentality 

I just think Todd has made so few to none correct decisions since he bought us

overpaying all the craps like KK, Cucurella, Fofana, Aubameyang

hiring a manager who never win anything in his career

he is setting us back for 10 years like what the owner of Everton did to the team

14 hours ago, LongtimerLurker said:

 

Facts, none of the aforementioned were perfect. One thing they did know how to do was win

I disagree. We bought so many average players and didn't back the coach going back to Mourinho's second stint here. 

When Roman took over the league was less competitive and the spending isn't what it is now. Some may blame Roman for that due to his crazy spending and causing football to spiral out of control. 2022 is a totally different era in football. We still only won two league trophies in the last 12 seasons. Is that good enough? 

1 hour ago, enigma said:

When Roman took over the league was less competitive and the spending isn't what it is now. Some may blame Roman for that due to his crazy spending and causing football to spiral out of control. 2022 is a totally different era in football. We still only won two league trophies in the last 12 seasons. Is that good enough? 

Ask a spud 

3 hours ago, enigma said:

I disagree. We bought so many average players and didn't back the coach going back to Mourinho's second stint here. 

Didn't back the coach? The same coach that we bought Fabregas and Costa for not to mention brought back Matic at his request whilst we shipped Salah and KDB off? In the 15/16 season you could argue, but there's more mitigating factors as to why that season was a fail not purely because of the summer window. Pedro for example was a great signing. 

Conte on the other hand only was backed with good players in his first summer, we failed him in the recruitment process the summer after he won the league.

To say we didn't back coaches though and only brought average players is a surprising conclusion considering our playing staff have outperformed every other domestic club in trophies acquired in the past 10 seasons bar City. Whilst in that time winning two UCLs the trophy City craves the most. 

 

5 minutes ago, LongtimerLurker said:

 

Conte on the other hand only was backed with good players in his first summer, we failed him in the recruitment process the summer after he won the league.

 

 

That's probably because the d**khead tried to leave.