I'm quite happy we are still unbeaten with Tuchel. I know it's frustrating to watch but it's small steps. Today was never going to be an easy game and ultimately if we go on to finish top 4 as a result of this run then the style we play will be forgotten. 

 

Keep the faith lads. We have been making some progress. 

The most entertaining thing for me was watching the geniuses on here freaking out at Tuchel for taking an injured player off.

1 minute ago, Gol15 said:

Lampard at the start of the season played his only game with a back 3 against Man United and we played not to lose - it was a good decision. Now somehow it's a problem.

It's a problem because we approach every single game like this. We are in this mindset of being set up not to lose rather than setting up to win. It's a mindset we can't afford to be in right now. We need wins, not safe 0-0 draws. 

 I never thought I would see the day Rafa Benitez's style of football was praised by Chelsea fans.

1 minute ago, nonotnowjim said:

It should have been a pen though right? I mean, CHO hand was up ahead of his head, in an unnatural position, and the ball hit his hand.

Mr Tickle was just as brazen post match, saying (paraphrasing) "Why did the ref check it, the ball hit the Greenwoods arm, so should have been a foul to us".

It DID hit greenwoods arm, but only after CHO handled it.

He put his hand up to try and hold Greenwood off, just as Greenwood did the try and hold CHO. Pretty natural thing to do. 

Let's hope Sheffield U will do us solid and draws with Liverpool today. 

1 minute ago, rocker_joker said:

I didn't mean Lukaku version 1.0(Chelsea) or 1.1(MU). I mean Lukaku version 2.0 (Inter). He has been killing it with Inter lately. Looks like absolute beast often completely unplayable by defenders. I watched some Inter games and he seems like evolved matured player now.

I see it as Serie A defenders can't handle his physicality but that might just be my bias talking. 

1 minute ago, bluedave said:

The most entertaining thing for me was watching the geniuses on here freaking out at Tuchel for taking an injured player off.

1 minute ago, Gol15 said:

Lampard at the start of the season played his only game with a back 3 against Man United and we played not to lose - it was a good decision. Now somehow it's a problem.

It wasn't a problem, it was understandable given the form of our attackers and United's danger on the counter (which had us in trouble nearly every time we committed men forward today), just like similar tactics weren't a problem against Sevilla or Liverpool.

3 minutes ago, Gol15 said:

Lampard at the start of the season played his only game with a back 3 against Man United and we played not to lose - it was a good decision. Now somehow it's a problem.

Ones away from home, the other isn’t!

2 minutes ago, nonotnowjim said:

It should have been a pen though right? I mean, CHO hand was up above of his head, in an unnatural position, and the ball hit his hand.

Mr Tickle was just as brazen post match, saying (paraphrasing) "Why did the ref check it, the ball hit the Greenwoods arm, so should have been a foul to us".

It DID hit greenwoods arm, but only after CHO handled it.

Disagree its a perfectly normal position for his arm to be when two players are coming together for the ball.

Just now, Gol15 said:

Madlad gets mad when he gets exposed, you're not the first one to say this rubbish that it was "only due to Hazard"... Kiddo ?

No-one is exposed except you!

Everyone knows Hazard carried the team that season and won us the Europa and got us top 4. Great that you rate Sarri so highly but the facts are, no Hazard, no top 4 and no cup. It's really THAT simple.

 

4 minutes ago, bluedave said:

The most entertaining thing for me was watching the geniuses on here freaking out at Tuchel for taking an injured player off.

Tuchel has apparently said he was subbed due to tactical and injury reasons.

Edited February 28, 20215 yr by dkw

2 minutes ago, Munkworth said:

He put his hand up to try and hold Greenwood off, just as Greenwood did the try and hold CHO. Pretty natural thing to do. 

then that's still a pen. He has raised his hand into an unnatural position, doing his best impression of a little teapot, and it hit his hand. If that was against us, I would be demanding a pen and can understand why Utd feel cheated.

1 minute ago, Nibs said:

No-one is exposed except you!

Everyone knows Hazard carried the team that season and won us the Europa and got us top 4. Great that you rate Sarri so highly but the facts are, no Hazard, no top 4 and no cup. It's really THAT simple.

 

Sarri got the best out of Hazard, Giroud, Pedro, Kante... You're just exposed, deal with it like a man or are you still crying like a kid? Conte also had Hazard, we finished top 5 LOL

1 minute ago, nonotnowjim said:

then that's still a pen. He has raised his hand into an unnatural position, doing his best impression of a little teapot, and it hit his hand. If that was against us, I would be demanding a pen and can understand why Utd feel cheated.

You are right but I hate the fact that football is reduced to people going out of their way to justify technicalities. 

The handball rule in the box is far too strict imo. It should be reduced to does using the hand directly stop a goalscoring opportunity? If yes then it's a given. If not then no. 

6 minutes ago, nonotnowjim said:

then that's still a pen. He has raised his hand into an unnatural position, doing his best impression of a little teapot, and it hit his hand. If that was against us, I would be demanding a pen and can understand why Utd feel cheated.

Raheem  Sterling actually runs with his arms in that position !

8 minutes ago, Nibs said:

No-one is exposed except you!

Everyone knows Hazard carried the team that season and won us the Europa and got us top 4. Great that you rate Sarri so highly but the facts are, no Hazard, no top 4 and no cup. It's really THAT simple.

 

We also don't get top four last season without Pulisic coming up clutch yet instead of being criticized for that Lampard is (rightly) praised for getting the best out of him.

Hazard "carried the team" largely because Sarri coaxed his best season yet out of him.

The detractors of the Stats websites will no doubt be delighted that WhoScored? gave Ziyech 7.6 today ?

3 minutes ago, Deino said:

You are right but I hate the fact that football is reduced to people going out of their way to justify technicalities. 

The handball rule in the box is far too strict imo. It should be reduced to does using the hand directly stop a goalscoring opportunity? If yes then it's a given. If not then no. 

I agree. That and if it's intentional. If somebody deliberately punches a ball away from that position, then I would expect a penalty to be given ?

Hudson-Odoi's handball had no effect on anything really. All it really did was stop the ball hitting the United players arm.

Just now, Sexyfootball said:

The detractors of the Stats websites will no doubt be delighted that WhoScored? gave Ziyech 7.6 today ?

Out of 100, right?

1 minute ago, dkw said:

Out of 100, right?

You'd think it would be after watching him in that game !

On the subject of 100 ... that was Christensen's pass accuracy today apparently ... 73/73 ... 100% !

14 minutes ago, nonotnowjim said:

then that's still a pen. He has raised his hand into an unnatural position, doing his best impression of a little teapot, and it hit his hand. If that was against us, I would be demanding a pen and can understand why Utd feel cheated.

Like we felt when Harry groped Dave at OT.

Think some are being quite harsh on Scott. Our football is boring at the moment. Mostly effective, bit utterly boring.

1 minute ago, axman2526 said:

Like we felt when Harry groped Dave at OT.

Yep - but 2 wrongs don't make a right.

5 minutes ago, Sexyfootball said:

The detractors of the Stats websites will no doubt be delighted that WhoScored? gave Ziyech 7.6 today ?