January 30, 20233 yr 2 hours ago, Sconnie Blue said: I'm more on the side that it's too late for Gallagher to really develop that technical level to play for a top side. Scrappy football suits him and there isn't anything wrong with that. Yeah, he's good but I don't think he's massively talented by our standards. I'd be surprised if his ceiling was that much higher than his current level, his technical ability isn't that great despite his work rate.
January 30, 20233 yr Everton better be careful. If Boehly doesn´t like teams chasing his players, he might go on a counterbuying attack. And with 50M he could buy their whole squad.
January 31, 20233 yr 15 hours ago, ElTerrible said: Everton better be careful. If Boehly doesn´t like teams chasing his players, he might go on a counterbuying attack. And with 50M he could buy their whole squad. £50m, were buying their stadium too then?
January 31, 20233 yr 11 minutes ago, Frankie8Lampard said: Unless he goes abroad Conor stays. As he supposedly only wants a top 6 side and we won't sell him to such a rival.
January 31, 20233 yr Newcastle are for sure a rival for top 4, but if we don't think Gallagher is good enough for us, and want to sell him, then surely selling him to a Top 4 rival would be a good thing, as the logical inference is we are offloading a player who will make them worse ? I can't see any other Top 6 side coming in for him, nor any of the top continental sides. Cutting off our nose to spite our face here for me ... his value will only go down the more he plays for us, as the cat will out the bag that he is a bang average midfielder.
January 31, 20233 yr 5 minutes ago, Sexyfootball said: Newcastle are for sure a rival for top 4, but if we don't think Gallagher is good enough for us, and want to sell him, then surely selling him to a Top 4 rival would be a good thing, as the logical inference is we are offloading a player who will make them worse ? I can't see any other Top 6 side coming in for him, nor any of the top continental sides. Cutting off our nose to spite our face here for me ... his value will only go down the more he plays for us, as the cat will out the bag that he is a bang average midfielder. If we are going to sell him, I would rather it is to Newcastle than a rival London team.
February 1, 20233 yr 6 hours ago, Bebe1980 said: Rather we sold Mount than Gallagher Why? Other than a few gritty performances of late, I have seen nothing about Gallagher that suggests he is a better footballer than Mount.
February 1, 20233 yr 1 hour ago, Scott Harris said: Why? Other than a few gritty performances of late, I have seen nothing about Gallagher that suggests he is a better footballer than Mount. Nor me. And that includes what we saw of him at Palace.
February 1, 20233 yr 1 hour ago, Scott Harris said: Why? Other than a few gritty performances of late, I have seen nothing about Gallagher that suggests he is a better footballer than Mount. Just another twatter hate fan unfortunately.
February 1, 20233 yr 1 hour ago, Scott Harris said: Why? Other than a few gritty performances of late, I have seen nothing about Gallagher that suggests he is a better footballer than Mount. They don't work together so one way or another a decision needs to be made soon unless Conor is happy as a squad player (we know Mount wont be).
February 1, 20233 yr 9 minutes ago, Argo said: They don't work together so one way or another a decision needs to be made soon unless Conor is happy as a squad player (we know Mount wont be). Do we?
February 1, 20233 yr 4 minutes ago, Sconnie Blue said: Do we? I remember Lampard saying how visably annoyed he was at pre march briefings whenever he wasn't selected and that was before he proved anything at the highest level.
February 1, 20233 yr 1 minute ago, Argo said: I remember Lampard saying how visably annoyed he was at pre march briefings whenever he wasn't selected and that was before he proved anything at the highest level. He's going to be a squad player anywhere he goes given his downward spiral of form. Perhaps not Liverpool as anything with a beating pulse is automatically an upgrade on what they have in midfield at the moment. I'd feel way more comfortable having Mount compete with Felix/Nkunku vs having Gallagher. At least Mount is tailored to our football at his very best.
February 1, 20233 yr 1 hour ago, Argo said: They don't work together so one way or another a decision needs to be made soon unless Conor is happy as a squad player (we know Mount wont be). Don't they? If I recall correctly, they played together in the last couple of matches (Palace and Liverpool) and I don't think that it went that bad.
February 1, 20233 yr 51 minutes ago, RMH said: Don't they? If I recall correctly, they played together in the last couple of matches (Palace and Liverpool) and I don't think that it went that bad. Of course they'll be times both have acceptable games but in a week out week out basis I feel it's far too much of the same strengths and weaknesses to constantly get the best out of both, ala the Lampard/Gerrard conundrum at club level. I don't feel it's a coincidence each others best performances came with the other one not playing.
February 2, 20233 yr Think teams often benefit from a scrappy player like Gallagher and he did well at palace scoring those goals some of which involved some respectable footwork. mount may be better technically for all i know but for me he is too similar to the other forward players. I think if Potter really thought Mount was the answer we wouldn't have taken Felix on loan. If we play Havertz, felix, mudryk and sterling and enzo then that leaves one midfield spot and that's assuming only 4 at the back. In my view you wouldn't play Mount in that spot you might not play Gallagher either but he would fit that spot better than Mount, and possibly because of higher work rate better than kova
February 3, 20233 yr On 02/02/2023 at 00:44, Argo said: Of course they'll be times both have acceptable games but in a week out week out basis I feel it's far too much of the same strengths and weaknesses to constantly get the best out of both, ala the Lampard/Gerrard conundrum at club level. I don't feel it's a coincidence each others best performances came with the other one not playing. Gerard + Lampard wasn't a problem, Mourinho tried to sign Gerard. Just put a monster dm behind them, put drogba in front of them with two out n out winger and you will have a monster team
February 3, 20233 yr On 02/02/2023 at 20:05, ozboy said: Think teams often benefit from a scrappy player like Gallagher and he did well at palace scoring those goals some of which involved some respectable footwork. mount may be better technically for all i know but for me he is too similar to the other forward players. I think if Potter really thought Mount was the answer we wouldn't have taken Felix on loan. If we play Havertz, felix, mudryk and sterling and enzo then that leaves one midfield spot and that's assuming only 4 at the back. In my view you wouldn't play Mount in that spot you might not play Gallagher either but he would fit that spot better than Mount, and possibly because of higher work rate better than kova I am not sure that is the case as Felix is more Kai than Mount.
February 3, 20233 yr 36 minutes ago, Bob stark said: Gerard + Lampard wasn't a problem, Mourinho tried to sign Gerard. Just put a monster dm behind them, put drogba in front of them with two out n out winger and you will have a monster team Sven did (eventually) try it with Hargreaves and nothing really changed. Us losing out on Gerrard was a massive blessing in disguise because plan B (Essien) was the perfect balance to Lamps.
February 3, 20233 yr Gerrard never had the positional or tactical discipline to play centrally in a top team, he reckoned on himself being Roy of the rovers and just where he wanted and expected others to cover for him, he was a liability for England. Its why Benitez playec him anywhere other than centre mid in big games, he couldn't be trusted.
February 3, 20233 yr 1 hour ago, Argo said: Sven did (eventually) try it with Hargreaves and nothing really changed. Us losing out on Gerrard was a massive blessing in disguise because plan B (Essien) was theperfect balance to Lamps. Gerard n lampard can easily work. Even on top of my head I have 3/4 lineup that will work easily. Just one example, let say you don't trust Gerard in the middle as @dkw said then play him as "rw". Even his title is rw eventually he will drift middle more, you can then ask you rb to be more aggressive and you will end up with something like this St LW - lampard - Gerard - Rb Dm - dm lb-cb-cb
February 3, 20233 yr On 01/02/2023 at 14:38, Argo said: I remember Lampard saying how visably annoyed he was at pre march briefings whenever he wasn't selected and that was before he proved anything at the highest level. Easy to spin that either way to be honest. I think when we heard it from Lampard it was to try to highlight Mount as hungry, hard-working and eager for the shirt, which also adds to the general conception fans have of [in particular English] youth players. If one is inclined to view Mount as an overrated Billy Big Bollocks, then it can just as easily be spun as entitlement and arrogance. Also @Bob stark there is no way as staunch a Liverpudlian as Gerrard could ever be visibly right-wing.
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