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Ivan Toney

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7 hours ago, Zeta said:

Played 12 games for Sporting, after spending the rest of his career at the likes of Coventry and Swansea. Sounds about right. 60m ok Todd?

100m Euro release clause according to Younes. Virtually no senior playing CV and has a prior affiliation with Brighton. Here's our next main man!

10 hours ago, Zeta said:

Played 12 games for Sporting, after spending the rest of his career at the likes of Coventry and Swansea. Sounds about right. 60m ok Todd?

Underwhelming link to say the least LOL. Smacks of Winstanley to me, as Gyokeres was signed on his watch at Brighton, and was on their books from 2017-21. Had a few unsuccessful loans, and was then sold to Coventry for £1m in 21/22. 

 

I don't think anyone currently in our recruitment team understand that players can have teporary purple patches, and that doesn't mean that just cos they're doing well for a few months, they'll do it forever.

If they'd been here 20 years ago we'd have the likes of Michael Ricketts and James Beattie up front.

3 hours ago, Sexyfootball said:

Underwhelming link to say the least LOL. Smacks of Winstanley to me, as Gyokeres was signed on his watch at Brighton, and was on their books from 2017-21. Had a few unsuccessful loans, and was then sold to Coventry for £1m in 21/22. 

 

He's a very very good striker, has no weaknesses. Would easily fit in at most top clubs. Having said that I would still prefer Toney simply cause of the experience and being "prem-proven". 

11 minutes ago, Remodez said:

He's a very very good striker, has no weaknesses. Would easily fit in at most top clubs. Having said that I would still prefer Toney simply cause of the experience and being "prem-proven". 

Fair enough. You sound like you know a bit about him ... I'd never heard of himself myself.

Looking at his career history, he comes across as a goal every three game Championship striker who's had a purple patch at his new club. 

I'm curious why we weren't in for him in June when he was available for €20m from Coventry.  Maybe scoring 9 in 12 games in the Portuguese league makes the data analytics suddenly veer off the charts LOL.

His FBRef scouting report looks decent with one big caveat.

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The big caveat is that this is comparisons to positional peers in Men's Next 14 Competitions ... i.e the next 14 leagues after the top 5 (so no compares to anyone in PL, La Liga, Serie A, Bundesliga and Ligue 1) and also excluding CL and Europa League ... so much much less impressive in that context.

If he was any good I think he'd still be at Brighton.

The state of strikers in world football is quite alarming to be honest, since becoming a fan 25 odd years ago this is the worst state of top strikers football has been in, 10/15 years ago you would have a list of 20 strikers you'd want at your club now I can't even think of 5.

34 minutes ago, timetowaste said:

The state of strikers in world football is quite alarming to be honest, since becoming a fan 25 odd years ago this is the worst state of top strikers football has been in, 10/15 years ago you would have a list of 20 strikers you'd want at your club now I can't even think of 5.

I can think of 5 and all of them would be better than Toney. But the requirement of not being diagnosed and banned makes it's quite easy...

18 hours ago, WhiteWall said:

100m Euro release clause according to Younes. Virtually no senior playing CV and has a prior affiliation with Brighton. Here's our next main man!

I saw him playing for Coventry last season in the cup against non-league Wrexham. He looked like a decent Championship player but nothing more. 

On 12/12/2023 at 11:52, Remodez said:

He's a very very good striker, has no weaknesses. Would easily fit in at most top clubs. Having said that I would still prefer Toney simply cause of the experience and being "prem-proven". 

I did see him in the championship a few times and was easily the best player in the league, reminds me of a younger Fernando Torres and how he fronts up and drives at people but personally I don't think it's the type of profile we need.

Keep saying it but I just wish we could clone Giroud.

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5 hours ago, Sexyfootball said:

Given where Brentford have slipped to in the table recently, I'd be very surprised if they sell him, as surely they need him to try and help them retain their PL status ? 

Especially with Mbuemo out. It would be a big risk for them to let him go. Even if they got a big fee, it wouldn't be worth losing their Premier League status over that. I can see them holding on to him until the summer.

3 hours ago, dansubrosa said:

The reported 80m price is absolutely ridiculous.

He hasn’t kicked a ball for 6 months and plays for a relegation battling side. Don’t get me wrong he’s good but 80m???

Brentford are where they currently are precisely because (a) he's been unavailable and (b) injury to their only other striker Mbeumo.

8 hours ago, dansubrosa said:

The reported 80m price is absolutely ridiculous.

He hasn’t kicked a ball for 6 months and plays for a relegation battling side. Don’t get me wrong he’s good but 80m???

There’s a real lack of proper goal scoring centre forwards, he’s English and proven goal scorer at premier league level in his prime, It’s a lot of money but very difficult to find better at the moment.

52 minutes ago, dan_cfc said:

There’s a real lack of proper goal scoring centre forwards, he’s English and proven goal scorer at premier league level in his prime, It’s a lot of money but very difficult to find better at the moment.

Brentford also battling relegation. Toney genuinely saves them. 

 

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