1 hour ago, RIP Mourinho said:

their comfort zone was still more successful than under the guise of Ronaldo

The fact that Ole's tenure being passed off as a success proves my point if anything.

The biggest club in the country who generate enough money to build new squads every year on a 4 year trophy drought is not a success under any metric.

Signing this preening, selfish prick would make the Lukaku signing look a sensible,  well planned one. It will be an immense failure in every way.

It is just clickbait. It would be like Chelsea giving someone like Frank to Man City.

I don't think Ronaldo will go anywhere, it's all a bluff. He's trying to force United to do something in the market and if he doesn't get what he wants, he will just sulk for the rest of the season before leaving on a free.

Imagine if we sign both Ronaldo and Neymar!!

Our midfield will have their work cut out covering those two when the oppo have the ball. Jorginho must be sh*tting himself.

16 hours ago, Argo said:

The fact that Ole's tenure being passed off as a success proves my point if anything.

The biggest club in the country who generate enough money to build new squads every year on a 4 year trophy drought is not a success under any metric.

No one is saying its been a success, just simply having Ronaldo has made it even worse. This is the Ronaldo thread, not Ole thread. The point is Ronaldo set Utd back even further, much the same as he did Juventus and likely will the next team he joins too.

If we can get the rest of the team right, Ronaldo given 30/60 minutes per game will score goals. I would like to see him in a Chelsea shirt, he is still a very effective striker. He plays to his current strengths - arriving in the penalty area, unmarked, goal. Job done sticker on. No tracking back, no mazey runs, just goals.

We have struggled for finishing last year when dominating for long periods, ive got my fingers crossed, hes still the man.

 

Edited July 6, 20224 yr by OneTommyLangley

26 minutes ago, OneTommyLangley said:

If we can get the rest of the team right, Ronaldo given 30/60 minutes per game will score goals. I would like to see him in a Chelsea shirt, he is still a very effective striker. He plays to his current strengths - arriving in the penalty area, unmarked, goal. Job done sticker on. No tracking back, no mazey runs, just goals.

We have struggled for finishing last year when dominating for long periods, ive got my fingers crossed, hes still the man.

 

Issue is in the modern game you can’t have 1 player not pressing. Your front man is the trigger to the lead the press, if he isn’t doing it your tactics falls apart. We saw it last season with Lukaku, and also Ronaldo with Utd.

Ronaldo will get stroppy if you sub him out of the game or don’t start him though. He wasn’t having it when Ole subbed him off after scoring an hat trick, so this idea of taking him off after 60mins doesn’t work in reality. Everyone seems to be forgetting how he constantly throws up his hands if he isn’t getting the ball or a pass is misplaced. If there is one way to destroy a united team spirit, stick Ronaldo up front.

2 minutes ago, ducavis said:

Issue is in the modern game you can’t have 1 player not pressing. Your front man is the trigger to the lead the press, if he isn’t doing it your tactics falls apart. We saw it last season with Lukaku, and also Ronaldo with Utd.

Ronaldo will get stroppy if you sub him out of the game or don’t start him though. He wasn’t having it when Ole subbed him off after scoring an hat trick, so this idea of taking him off after 60mins doesn’t work in reality. Everyone seems to be forgetting how he constantly throws up his hands if he isn’t getting the ball or a pass is misplaced. If there is one way to destroy a united team spirit, stick Ronaldo up front.

Honestly the worst part is not defensively. He has never been great defensively but he was just such a riddiculous goal threat. He could launch shot from anywhere and in the box he was an absolute monster. 

Now outside penalty box he offer very little good thing. It is like you are playing with 10 men and once you get to the box, you are playing with 12.

 

 

47 minutes ago, Bob stark said:

Honestly the worst part is not defensively. He has never been great defensively but he was just such a riddiculous goal threat. He could launch shot from anywhere and in the box he was an absolute monster. 

Now outside penalty box he offer very little good thing. It is like you are playing with 10 men and once you get to the box, you are playing with 12.

 

 

If he puts pressure on the team to give him the ball in the box he will score a lot of goals, bringing him on at 60 minutes in a frustrating game will unlock defences.

Taking him off after 60 minutes having scored a goal or two will need managing - Tuchel should be able to do it. 

1 hour ago, RIP Mourinho said:

No one is saying its been a success, just simply having Ronaldo has made it even worse. This is the Ronaldo thread, not Ole thread. The point is Ronaldo set Utd back even further, much the same as he did Juventus and likely will the next team he joins too.

Would you say the same about Varane? Or for us Pedro in 15/16 or Rudiger in 17/18? Ole and those players were always going to collapse once genuine expectations were put on their shoulders.

4 hours ago, RIP Mourinho said:

No one is saying its been a success, just simply having Ronaldo has made it even worse. This is the Ronaldo thread, not Ole thread. The point is Ronaldo set Utd back even further, much the same as he did Juventus and likely will the next team he joins too.

People are using the goals Ronaldo scored at those clubs as proof we should buy him, completely ignoring that both clubs had worse seasons than previous ones before he signed, both in where they finished in the league and goals scored by the team.

 

4 minutes ago, Kantesmini said:

 

Hopefully we have the same angle.

Ronaldo should go to Inter Miami or Barcelona or some other silly team.

Still think he had 80% of his signature on the City contract last summer, up until United called and he made a totally sentimental u-turn that he now regrets. IMHO he was tailor made for that City team and they'd have probably won the UCL, too. Think he'd have put good numbers there, at least 30 for the season, he'd have been just perfect in that City setup in my view.

Now Ronaldo to Chelsea... I'm 50/50 because he is 37 and useless in a pressing team, but at the same time the tought of Havertz, Werner and Broja for the CF position for the season, I don't know... Feels a bit risky.

My first option would be a new winger ( Neymar, Raphinha, Dembele or some other top one).

If we can't buy a new winger then I'd move for Ronaldo. We'd risk a lot not buying a new winger, or Ronaldo, we'd have to probably play Mount on the wing and Havertz up top for the whole season and, to me, it is just way to risky also knowing if the guys up front get injured, the options on the bench are... meh...

I'm conflicted by this one.

He was the 3rd highest goal scorer last year in the league, so it shows he still knows how to find the goals despite his age.

His style of play is antithetical to the way TT wants us to play, which is the biggest concern. I'd only support it if TT approved the signing.

Edited July 7, 20224 yr by Jezz

I'm 50/50 on him too. The cons are obvious, he's not going to press to the other 9 have to work lots harder, he will cost a fortune, the wear and tear will kick in sooner or later. But the pros are tempting, he will get the goals, he loves the big stage and will deliver, a leader, and maybe he could teach Werner how to kick the ball into the corner. Look at all the draws and close loss we had last season, if only we had a striker.

Our focus should be central defense which is a mess at the moment.

16 minutes ago, Jezz said:

I'm conflicted by this one.

He was the 3rd highest goal scorer last year in the league, so it shows he still knows how to find the goals despite his age.

His style of play is antithetical to the way TT wants us to play, which is the biggest concern. I'd only support it if TT approved the signing.

He was the 3rd highest scorer, and at Juve he was also a highest scorer. But the teams he was in had a drop in total goals scored at both teams apparently, which is a very telling stat.

1 minute ago, dkw said:

He was the 3rd highest scorer, and at Juve he was also a highest scorer. But the teams he was in had a drop in total goals scored at both teams apparently, which is a very telling stat.

Interesting. I wasn't aware of that.

Have to give this some more thought. I can see the argument for both sides.

i'm seeing united fans thinking they can swap Ronaldo for Kante lmao 

that would be ironic

swapping the most arrogant self obsessed narcissistic player for the most humble player

Edited July 7, 20224 yr by azpi28

10 minutes ago, azpi28 said:

i'm seeing united fans thinking they can swap Ronaldo for Kante lmao 

that would be ironic

swapping the most arrogant self obsessed narcissistic player for the most humble player

Redcafe has been at peak delusion lately

Every player going they're like ''he was ours'' and every signing top 4 clubs make they're sh*tting on them haha more like bitter utd now I swear, I take some relief in hoping most are but younglings but jesus christ this transfer window and year has been nuts

Some even still go on about our finances, Its a mental hospital!

Edited July 7, 20224 yr by Kantesmini

Seen a few reports floating around Man U are braced for a bid from us, some reports saying we may bid £14m for him. Like so many on here I'm torn, he's one of the goats no doubt in my mind. If he was even a few years younger we wouldn't even debate this, I think we're all for this.

Personally I don't think we need an out and out number 9, we won the UCL with such a fluid style of play. I'm more in favour of switching to a back 4 and having more creative players on the field at the same time. I think any combination of 4 forward thinking players should do it whether that's in a 4231, 433 or 4222. 

With Sterling all but done I'd like another forward player but more a hybrid like Sterling who could play at least either wing and perhaps either number 10 also or false 9. 

That said Ronaldo would feast on goals here  TT is genius enough to tailor make a system to get the best out of him and everyone else. Unlike Lukaku he won't necessarily wait for the ball to come to feet, he will move around and cause chaos. I also think he would be a great role model for Kai to base his game on and for the others like Mount, Pulisic, CHO etc to see what it takes to be the very best. Commitment to fitness. 

My stance is the same if he comes I'm ok with it maybe slightly excited since it tells me Tuchel has agreed to it. Which means he has a plan. If he doesn't come I'll see it as the right decision for all the cons we've pointed out.