4 minutes ago, WhiteWall said:

I believe that at the end of the day nobody really cares whether Graham Potter, Harry Potter or even Beatrix Potter is manager of the team providing Chelsea are playing well and winning.

Nobody ?? More than a few on here were wishing for us to lose the last two games, saying things like 'it would be worth it'.

11 minutes ago, WhiteWall said:

I think "gave up on Potter" is a bit melodramatic and i also don't class fellow fans that question the direction the team that they support is going makes them toxic at all.

I find football fans targeting individuals associated with the club with offensive and often criminial social media posts directly at the individuals concerned as toxic.

I also find taking exception to fans that have a different opinion and then posting derogatory comments on teh forum about them or their posts can create a toxic atmosphere sometimes.

For me, i am happy reading and responding to posts from all of the members of this forum, even if those posts differ from my own opinion, on the basis that I believe that at the end of the day nobody really cares whether Graham Potter, Harry Potter or even Beatrix Potter is manager of the team providing Chelsea are playing well and winning.

Well said WhiteWall. 

Tottenham fans pretty much unanimously called for Conte's head tonight, despite them being 11 points ahead of us in top 4, and not having spent 500m this season. The idea that the fans that have put pressure on Potter are ungrateful/fickle is nonsense.

Yes. it's great that we beat Dortmund and I'm happy for him, but under Tuchel, beating Dortmund would be the expectation, not the highlight of the past 4 months. He definitely gets till the end of the season now but if we don't get top 6 his position should still be under consideration, unless we go all the way in the Champions League.

If we keep playing 3-4-3, I'd give us a good shot against any team except for City and Bayern. Hopefully it's Milan next though.

9 hours ago, RIP Mourinho said:

TimesUpPotter must fall into the infantile twitter scrotum sub section

Just call good old HazardousChoice TUP for short, it fits 

Edited March 9, 20233 yr by axman2526

35 minutes ago, Drogba1 said:

Tottenham fans pretty much unanimously called for Conte's head tonight, despite them being 11 points ahead of us in top 4, and not having spent 500m this season. The idea that the fans that have put pressure on Potter are ungrateful/fickle is nonsense.

Yes. it's great that we beat Dortmund and I'm happy for him, but under Tuchel, beating Dortmund would be the expectation, not the highlight of the past 4 months. He definitely gets till the end of the season now but if we don't get top 6 his position should still be under consideration, unless we go all the way in the Champions League.

I don't think that has significantly changed though, we were still expected to beat Dortmund with Potter at the helm, especially given our Champions' League form under him. Given Dortmund are the form team in Germany, this would have been considered a tricky tie regardless of who was in charge.

Potter should be judged on our league performance alone, and specifically evidence that he is actually improving the team's attacking play. If we don't see signs of that in the league there is no point keeping him on. 

5 hours ago, SydneyChelsea said:

I don't think that has significantly changed though, we were still expected to beat Dortmund with Potter at the helm, especially given our Champions' League form under him. Given Dortmund are the form team in Germany, this would have been considered a tricky tie regardless of who was in charge.

Potter should be judged on our league performance alone, and specifically evidence that he is actually improving the team's attacking play. If we don't see signs of that in the league there is no point keeping him on. 

I'd disagree, league performance from now until the end of the season is pointless. 

We have one priority now, win the champions league. Everything that happens in the league is geared towards that, not winning or performing well in those games. 

I also don't think we were expected to beat Dortmund with Potter at the helm and if Tuchel hadn't managed to get us playing better, we wouldnt have expected a win with him either. Same as how we weren't expected to beat Atleti Madrid. 

For me, he’s got to show an improvement in the football the team plays until the end of the season. The team ends up playing good football and, irrespective of where we finish in the PL and CL, I’ll be happy for him to keep his position as coach. That’s what I’ve been asking for all this time, and going through in the CL doesn’t change that. 

Moyes, Conte and Rodgers all now shorter odds than Potter to be the next PL management casualty.

I think GP gets until at least the end of 2023 now.

7 hours ago, axman2526 said:

Just call good old HazardousChoice TUP for short, it fits 

@HazardousChoice he joined just to endlessly post about Pulisic, Then rejoins as @TimesUpPotter and bores everyone with his posts about Potter who's next in the firing line keep an eye out for a new member called Bollocks to Boehly.

8 hours ago, Drogba1 said:

Tottenham fans pretty much unanimously called for Conte's head tonight, despite them being 11 points ahead of us in top 4, and not having spent 500m this season. The idea that the fans that have put pressure on Potter are ungrateful/fickle is nonsense.

Conte has been at the Spurs for almost 1.5 years. In this time he has failed to bring any success or progress, and the club currently looks lifeless.

Conte has taken the Spuds backwards, despite having spent big (Richarlison, Romero, Bissouma - almost £150m on just those 3), not having to navigate the transition of new owners and not having to integrate 10 new players. If after 1.5 years Potter has failed to show any progress, then it will be right to call for his head.

Long may the spurs rot continue - but the fans had not turned on him after just a couple of months. The situation is not the same - and you are comparing apples to oranges.

KTBFFH

8 hours ago, Drogba1 said:

Tottenham fans pretty much unanimously called for Conte's head tonight, despite them being 11 points ahead of us in top 4, and not having spent 500m this season. The idea that the fans that have put pressure on Potter are ungrateful/fickle is nonsense.

Yes. it's great that we beat Dortmund and I'm happy for him, but under Tuchel, beating Dortmund would be the expectation, not the highlight of the past 4 months. He definitely gets till the end of the season now but if we don't get top 6 his position should still be under consideration, unless we go all the way in the Champions League.

You can call anyone's head. No problem. Fans only want to see wins and any loss will make fans call for heads. The thing is how you react to fans' opinions. That is the key. Fans don't know what happens inside the training and club. Usually it shows on the pitch. 

57 minutes ago, nonotnowjim said:

Conte has been at the Spurs for almost 1.5 years. In this time he has failed to bring any success or progress, and the club currently looks lifeless.

Conte has taken the Spuds backwards, despite having spent big (Richarlison, Romero, Bissouma - almost £150m on just those 3), not having to navigate the transition of new owners and not having to integrate 10 new players. If after 1.5 years Potter has failed to show any progress, then it will be right to call for his head.

Long may the spurs rot continue - but the fans had not turned on him after just a couple of months. The situation is not the same - and you are comparing apples to oranges.

KTBFFH

Conte didn't have a first 6 months like Potter though did he ? Nuno did, and he got fired.

I can't think of many managers that have survived a run like that, and especially at a a big club where results are expected. 

Edited March 9, 20233 yr by Sexyfootball

A couple of things, surprised Conte's gallbladder surgery kept him in Italy for so long, kind of think he may be looking in Italy for his next role.

Ferguson at Utd lasted a long time at Utd even flirting with relegation before that FA win changed their fortune.

Then we also have the more recent erratic start from Arteta.

 

 

What differs Conte and Tuchel from Potter is neither of them can/will behave. I am pretty sure both of these amazing coaches are in fact amazing coaches but very very difficult to deal with on a daily basis. They demand very much from the club and the players. When you have to confront these types on a daily basis you get tired. This is why their stints in clubs are 12-24 months at a time.

Boehly is not looking for that. He is looking for a Pep or a Klopp.

We are not in for a quick-in-and-out-type.

Edited March 9, 20233 yr by evissy

4 hours ago, Sexyfootball said:

Moyes, Conte and Rodgers all now shorter odds than Potter to be the next PL management casualty.

I think GP gets until at least the end of 2023 now.

OMG, i read as far as i have bolded and my heart nearly missed a beat. Jesus Christ, brought me out in a cold sweat. 

7 minutes ago, WhiteWall said:

OMG, i read as far as i have bolded and my heart nearly missed a beat. Jesus Christ, brought me out in a cold sweat. 

Well since Bohely likes wasting money, maybe we can get all 3 in as co-managers......entertainment for sure. 

2 hours ago, Sexyfootball said:

Conte didn't have a first 6 months like Potter though did he ? Nuno did, and he got fired.

I can't think of many managers that have survived a run like that, and especially at a a big club where results are expected. 

Without context it sounds bad, but when you figure in #new owners #new project #squad overhaul part 1 #winter WC #squad overhaul part 2, all that in the first 4/5 months.

No other manager has had to deal with so much turmoil in his first 4/5 months.

2 hours ago, Sexyfootball said:

Conte didn't have a first 6 months like Potter though did he ? Nuno did, and he got fired.

I can't think of many managers that have survived a run like that, and especially at a a big club where results are expected. 

Yes - I agree , there are not many managers that have survived a bad run at big clubs where results are expected.

There are also not many big clubs that, in a 1 year period,  have been sanctioned, forced to be sold, changed all the senior leaders and sporting directors, sacked a manager a couple of days after the transfer window shut, had a world cup a few weeks after coming in that ravaged the squad (leaving just 6 fit first team squad to train - including Kepa, bettineli and chalobah), had a new sporting director appointed, and spent huge money on mostly young players with potential - but who are untested at this level.

So yes - this has been a difficult set of parameters to work in all around - in unprecedented circumstances.

There is little to compare it to - including the Numo comparison, where he looked like he had no long term idea, had the club down by the relegation zone, and  players that had downed tools. Despite having none of the unprecedented circs we have dealt with in the recent past.

 

Edited March 9, 20233 yr by nonotnowjim

4 minutes ago, coco said:

Without context it sounds bad, but when you figure in #new owners #new project #squad overhaul part 1 #winter WC #squad overhaul part 2, all that in the first 4/5 months.

No other manager has had to deal with so much turmoil in his first 4/5 months.

Jinx….almost.

4 hours ago, nonotnowjim said:

Conte has been at the Spurs for almost 1.5 years. In this time he has failed to bring any success or progress, and the club currently looks lifeless.

Conte has taken the Spuds backwards, despite having spent big (Richarlison, Romero, Bissouma - almost £150m on just those 3), not having to navigate the transition of new owners and not having to integrate 10 new players. If after 1.5 years Potter has failed to show any progress, then it will be right to call for his head.

Long may the spurs rot continue - but the fans had not turned on him after just a couple of months. The situation is not the same - and you are comparing apples to oranges.

KTBFFH

Has Conte taken Tottenham backwards? He got them their first top 4 finish in 3 years, and they're currently in the top 4 now as well.

Conte took Chelsea from 10th to a league title, Juventus from 7th to 3 league titles in a row, and Inter from 9th to a league title, breaking the Juventus domination he starterd. The fact that he's failling at Tottenham says more about Tottenham than it does about him in my opinion, but I agree, long live the rot 🙏

5 hours ago, nonotnowjim said:

Conte has been at the Spurs for almost 1.5 years. In this time he has failed to bring any success or progress, and the club currently looks lifeless.

Conte has taken the Spuds backwards, despite having spent big (Richarlison, Romero, Bissouma - almost £150m on just those 3), not having to navigate the transition of new owners and not having to integrate 10 new players. If after 1.5 years Potter has failed to show any progress, then it will be right to call for his head.

Long may the spurs rot continue - but the fans had not turned on him after just a couple of months. The situation is not the same - and you are comparing apples to oranges.

KTBFFH

Spurs need a lot more than those three. 

They definitely need a new gk n new cb. 

3 minutes ago, Bob stark said:

Spurs need a lot more than those three. 

They definitely need a new gk n new cb. 

I wonder if Kane will be available to sign this summer, surely he knows Tottenham are going nowhere at this point

Just now, Drogba1 said:

I wonder if Kane will be available to sign this summer, surely he knows Tottenham are going nowhere at this point

Kane is  one of the best no 9 in PL but you sign kane if you are ready to win now. So far we haven't shown that we are only a 9 away from winning pl/cl. 

6 hours ago, Sexyfootball said:

Moyes, Conte and Rodgers all now shorter odds than Potter to be the next PL management casualty.

I think GP gets until at least the end of 2023 now.

I think the 2 results this last week have likely ensured that Potter at least stays the rest of the season. Beyond that probably depends on how we do in our remaining fixtures this season.