30 minutes ago, WhiteWall said:

Bit off topic and random but Noni is the term used by the females within my family to represent their lady part.

Apologies, not sure why that came into my head.

As you were, please continue.

Based on your female family members' colloquialism, that renders Elanga less of a noni than Noni.

5 hours ago, WhiteWall said:

Bit off topic and random but Noni is the term used by the females within my family to represent their lady part.

Apologies, not sure why that came into my head.

As you were, please continue.

It can also be referenced as “Nani”

1 minute ago, El regreso said:

It can also be referenced as “Nani”

Except we don't have any players called Nani. I suppose a nickname would suffice. "Nani" Badiashile.

5 hours ago, WhiteWall said:

Bit off topic and random but Noni is the term used by the females within my family to represent their lady part.

Apologies, not sure why that came into my head.

As you were, please continue.

5 hours ago, WhiteWall said:

Bit off topic and random but Noni is the term used by the females within my family to represent their lady part.

Apologies, not sure why that came into my head.

As you were, please continue.

Jackson is worth another name tuppence!!

On 07/07/2025 at 00:16, Scott Harris said:

He may not cost more than Gittens even if Madueke's development is slightly ahead. We value Madueke less than Dortmund valued Gittens. Madueke is considered expendable, Gittens was a key player for Dortmund.

No Gittens wasn't. The new coach didn't need him because he played a 3 at the back and his system doesn't need wingers . Dortmund are just a very good selling club

4 minutes ago, The Don Antonio said:

No Gittens wasn't. The new coach didn't need him because he played a 3 at the back and his system doesn't need wingers . Dortmund are just a very good selling club

It's not like Kovac has just arrived at Dortmund. Gittens played in pretty much every game when he took over and I am certain he would have done the same again next season too. Gittens was a key player player for Dortmund.

58 minutes ago, Scott Harris said:

It's not like Kovac has just arrived at Dortmund. Gittens played in pretty much every game when he took over and I am certain he would have done the same again next season too. Gittens was a key player player for Dortmund.

Unfortunately you are wrong . Gittens was a starter in the first half of the season but has been a bench player since Kovac came in with his 3421 formation that relies on wingbacks and not wingers. It is public knowledge and can check google

Jamie Gittens recently lost his starting position at Borussia Dortmund due to a change in coaching philosophy and tactics under Niko Kovac. Kovac favored a wing-back system where Gittens didn't fit naturally, leading to his reduced role in the starting lineup. Additionally, Chelsea has signed Gittens, suggesting a move away from Dortmund. 

Here's a more detailed breakdown:

• Change in Coaching System:

  Niko Kovac's appointment as Dortmund's head coach saw a shift towards a wing-back system, which didn't suit Gittens' playing style. 

• Reduced Role:

  As a result, Gittens saw a drop in his playing time and wasn't included in the starting eleven as frequently. 

• Chelsea Transfer:

  Gittens has been signed by Chelsea, indicating a move away from Dortmund and a potential new chapter in his career. 

• Competition for Places:

  Chelsea's acquisition of Gittens, along with other attacking signings, suggests increased competition for starting positions in the Chelsea squad. 

• Gittens' Strengths:

  Despite the change in Dortmund, Gittens is known for his pace and ability to create chances, which Chelsea hopes to utilize. 

Funny one noni

Really like the guy. Won't be sad to see him leave.

For an opening bid that's pretty high

In a world where Elanga and Kudus go for 55M each, surely Madueke is a player worth over 50M fixed fee, as well.

Bought for 29M, sold for over 20M profit two years later. Good piece of business for a good, but not great player.

I do not believe Madueke would have been sold had Estevao did not come this summer. The club prioritise the integration of Estevao which, to be fair, is the right thing to do knowing he is one of the top talents in world football.

Neto will probably start the season at right wing with Estevao slowly coming very late in the matches to replace either Neto or the left winger, with Neto going to the left and Estevao on the right. Keeping Neto gives Maresca more flexibility as he looks a better fit for the left wing, also, when needed.

Hard to say whether he looks to play more consistently or paycheck. Looks like paycheck. He would be behind Saka and Martinelli.

But we have to be a bit aware of the lowish salaries on our players in general.

Anyway if he wants to leave, no problem. Like Enzo said whoever doesn't want to be here you are free to go.

7 minutes ago, evissy said:

Hard to say whether he looks to play more consistently or paycheck. Looks like paycheck. He would be behind Saka and Martinelli.

But we have to be a bit aware of the lowish salaries on our players in general.

Anyway if he wants to leave, no problem. Like Enzo said whoever doesn't want to be here you are free to go.

I have a sneaky feeling (nothing to base it on) that Arteta isn't having Martinelli. He may well view Madueke as a Saka back up but also a rotating starter on the left side, especially if they go get Eze as well.

Would not surprise me in the slightest to see Martinelli move on later in this window.

13 hours ago, WhiteWall said:

I have a sneaky feeling (nothing to base it on) that Arteta isn't having Martinelli. He may well view Madueke as a Saka back up but also a rotating starter on the left side, especially if they go get Eze as well.

Would not surprise me in the slightest to see Martinelli move on later in this window.

Quite possible. Martinelli has plateaued.

“I’ve been really critical of much of Chelsea’s business under Clearlake…

But flipping Madueke for a £21.5m profit, after 2.5 solid but unspectacular seasons…

When you’ve already secured a player with a much higher ceiling in Estevao…

Is brilliant work.”

Interesting take!

2 hours ago, JM7 said:

“I’ve been really critical of much of Chelsea’s business under Clearlake…

But flipping Madueke for a £21.5m profit, after 2.5 solid but unspectacular seasons…

When you’ve already secured a player with a much higher ceiling in Estevao…

Is brilliant work.”

Interesting take!

You'd think people would understand book value given the past 3 years. Flipping on the players' original transfer value isn't looked at in the accounting perspective.

This is actually a £35-40m book value profit if this goes through.

6 minutes ago, Sconnie Blue said:

You'd think people would understand book value given the past 3 years. Flipping on the players' original transfer value isn't looked at in the accounting perspective.

This is actually a £35-40m book value profit if this goes through.

"Ackchually when you look at the book value and amortisation"

"

God bring back football when it was actually football and not people penny counting.

23 minutes ago, Sconnie Blue said:

You'd think people would understand book value given the past 3 years. Flipping on the players' original transfer value isn't looked at in the accounting perspective.

This is actually a £35-40m book value profit if this goes through.

Assume I am wrong, but my back of fag packet calculations....

Cost of £28.5m, on a 7 yr contract - back the fee could be amortised over 7 years.

Thats a £4million book value per year.

5 yrs remaining on contract, meaning remaining book value is £20m

If we get £50m, that is around a £30m bankable profit, plus freeing up whatever salary he is on.

How do you get £35-40m?

1 minute ago, nonotnowjim said:

Assume I am wrong, but my back of fag packet calculations....

Cost of £28.5m, on a 7 yr contract - back the fee could be amortised over 7 years.

Thats a £4million book value per year.

5 yrs remaining on contract, meaning remaining book value is £20m

If we get £50m, that is around a £30m bankable profit, plus freeing up whatever salary he is on.

How do you get £35-40m?

Club have rejected the £50m fee and want something close to Elanga/Kudus, so roughly £55-60m.

£50m is already a very generous offer, let's not get too greedy.

I think this will work out similarly to the Havertz deal. He'll do well enough there that it's a justified signing, but we will not miss the player - and much better options will go for the same/less money. I don't mind Madueke but I don't think he has many levels to go up.

8 minutes ago, Remodez said:

£50m is already a very generous offer, let's not get too greedy.

I would be gutted if arsenal change their mind

We should at least be getting what Elanga was.

44 minutes ago, Sconnie Blue said:

Club have rejected the £50m fee and want something close to Elanga/Kudus, so roughly £55-60m.

Suddenly our guys have a backbone

6 minutes ago, Deino said:

Suddenly our guys have a backbone

I believe with the exception of CHO (huge fail there money wise) and Connor (not the ££ itself, but the Felix deal + KDH to replace him was idiotic), they've been doing a fine job at selling players: Havertz, Mount, Maatsen (even though it was another shady deal), even Lukaku which was hard to deal with. Their problem lies in the other way, when they can't help themselves buying every single u21 player that becomes available for £20m+.