romfordblue Posted May 10, 2018 Share Posted May 10, 2018 Seriously? I think he took it out on us in the second half aka their goal and some other dubious decisions. Guess the FA looked the other way for him tho? https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/44076269 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phillip Posted May 10, 2018 Share Posted May 10, 2018 Why are English referees as stupid and corrupt as Norwegian referees? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stim Posted May 10, 2018 Share Posted May 10, 2018 Lol we are the only club in the country who get charged for that. mojo and Scott Harris 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sonic90 Posted May 10, 2018 Share Posted May 10, 2018 I don't usually have much to complain about Lee Mason, but this game he went full Clattenburg in such a crucial game for both sides, it certainly made me suspicious. Before people say tin foil hat and all that, all this has happened before and no longer surprises me, I just accept it now as part of life for Chelsea. I bet the FA would be forced to respond to the refereeing standards if Sky or BT dug them out but after every big incident they always talk about it a bit but don't make it a big issue and at the end say it's just part of football. JMaher94 and Scott Harris 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zeta Posted May 10, 2018 Share Posted May 10, 2018 f**king ridiculous. Isn't it against the rules of the game to end the half when the ball is out of play? The players were rightfully aggrieved and of course the FA haven't been able to fine us for anything for a while, so they couldn't wait to stick the boot in. Scott Harris 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Munkunku Posted May 10, 2018 Share Posted May 10, 2018 What a bunch of c**ts. Scott Harris 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WeatherMan Posted May 10, 2018 Share Posted May 10, 2018 I never have, and hopefully never will buy into all the conspiracy theories surrounding the FA and referees but this strikes me as being a particularly petty and spiteful charge. I'm trying to ignore the fact it was a blatant foul on Willian, and the flooring of Cabellero which directly led to Huddersfilds goal. I'm trying hard to ignore the fact that Huddersfield employed blatant time wasting tactics throughout the game, something the ref failed to deal with. I just about get that, they were fighting for their survival in the Premier League. I won't blame the referee for the result, that was all down to Conte's bizarre team selection on the night, but to charge us with this really grinds my gears. yorkleyblue 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boomerdog Posted May 10, 2018 Share Posted May 10, 2018 (edited) The FA will always blame and charge other clubs as a scapegoat for the referee's awful sh*t incompetence. Don't fix the root of the problem FA just charge us when we react to the ref's total ineptitude. I've seen other teams react worse & not get charged though. Edited May 10, 2018 by boomerdog Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robdog Posted May 10, 2018 Share Posted May 10, 2018 Ashley Cole's description of The FA still holds firm - I am sure that Mason can always get a free meatpie when he visits Huddersfield <_< mojo 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TJB Posted May 10, 2018 Share Posted May 10, 2018 (edited) I'm like WeatherMan in not buying into conspiracy theories, but I also agree with the description of this charge as petty and spiteful. It's not even for failing to control our players but for failing to ensure the players "conducted themselves in an orderly fashion". What the f**k does that even mean? And has any other team faced this specific charge before? I asked in the match thread do we ever see refs blow for half or full time right when a corner is being taken right on the second we reach the end of the added on time (the "minimum" amount of added time we get reminded when refs decide to play on and on). I also pointed out that right at the end he let Huddersfield waste nearly a minute to take the free kick and then blew up seconds after. In the grand scheme of things he didn't have much impact on last nights result, but the overall standard of refereeing in this league is f**king appalling. And then to make it even worse most of them have this arrogant, dismissive, almost superior attitude which is in no way warranted or deserved. Edited May 10, 2018 by TJB WeatherMan 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Floyd25 Posted May 11, 2018 Share Posted May 11, 2018 (edited) The standard of officiating in this country gets worse on a yearly basis, there’s a reason none of them are going to the World Cup, they can’t be trusted. I said after the game we’ll be charged for that and that’s exactly what happened, when Jose was our manager, he was given a large fine for sarcasm, that’s what the FA do, they aren’t very professional, they often seem petty and childish. As mentioned, they fine teams to mask over the shoddy refereeing, but I think it’s more than that, I think they genuinely can’t stand us and there’s been more than enough eveidence to suggest that, unfortunately we just have to get on with it. But with the standard being as bad as it is, you can’t help but question the integrity of the FA and the officials. In the Checkatrade Cup, this season, I watched a game where they added on 6 minutes and played about 7, for seemingly no reason, we saw a similar scenario against Liverpool and we get this performance from Lee Mason, it’s no wonder people delve in to conspiracies, I’m not doubting being a ref is difficult, but it’s beyond a joke at this point and I’ve been seething this season. Edited May 11, 2018 by Floyd25 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Harris Posted May 11, 2018 Share Posted May 11, 2018 So instead of trying to understand why our players were so annoyed, they just charge us instead. And that BBC article is pathetic, there are hardly any details. The ball goes out of play before the 2 minutes of injury time is up, the ref then blows the whistle as soon as 47 minutes are on the clock. I think our players have every right to be pissed off. So when the ref refuses to follow the rules of the game, we aren't allowed to even have a bit of a moan about it now? What did the players do that was so wrong? shout at the ref a bit? So that will probably be £20,000 for the F.A to line their pockets, all over a bit of shouting Football in this country really is a joke now, it's getting to the point where it's sucking the passion for the game out of me. You can't ever complain about a ref in this country, the refs are free to get away with anything they like. Every single week the refs are making the most basic errors, which i actually think is deliberate depending on the situation and / or the importance of the game. They give decisions for or against teams based on the reputation of the club and players. Does the F.A even care that none of the Premier League refs are going to this years world cup? do they not care about the image of officiating of the game in this country? Seeing as they are partly funding the PGMOL, they should be demanding a lot more from refs in this country. But maybe the F.A likes it this way, maybe they think it's all part of the game and great theatre. Fans are sick of it though, people are sitting on the edge of their seat worried about a decision from a ref in every game. The ref should be an after thought, not something that is a talking point in almost every game. atomis 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluedave Posted May 11, 2018 Share Posted May 11, 2018 I'm all for teams being punished when their players surround and abuse the officials. It shouldn't happen, even if the ref is a useless lump of sh*t. I can only presume that every other team will be charged whenever their players do it in future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Backbiter Posted May 11, 2018 Share Posted May 11, 2018 I wasn't surprised to hear of the charge, but the fact is refs cannot be trusted to take charge of time-keeping. We saw it at Everton the other night, which could have cost Southampton their Prem status, and we saw it with Mason on Wednesday. There has to be independent time-keeping or a clear 'time-off' 'time-on' instruction (like in rugby) so that the game actually ends o 90 mins, with stoppage time being built into the 90 mins not added on arbitrarily at the end. Scott Harris, yorkleyblue and bluedave 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ForeverCarefree Posted May 11, 2018 Share Posted May 11, 2018 I was always under the impression that refs blew for full/half time when when an attacking phase of play had ended. So generally if a team is on the attack and the opposition clear the ball to the halfway line, that's when they'll blow to end play. That we were awarded a free kick (that ate into the extra time we were already playing) and then the ball when out for a corner and then he waited for us to get into a position to take the corner before blowing up for half time was just odd. It didn't make sense to officiate that way, it didn't follow the norm. Wouldn't be a Chelsea season if the FA didn't charge us for something though, even if what we did was not different to what you see almost every week. Backbiter 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dkw Posted May 11, 2018 Share Posted May 11, 2018 Mason always officiates our games with an attitude of putting us in our place, hes an arrogant w**ker. Scott Harris, Osgood is Good and yorkleyblue 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mclovin83 Posted May 11, 2018 Share Posted May 11, 2018 The thing that annoys me, is that Mason's performance was really, really bad. I think our players reactions were fully justified, and in fact the performance of Mason was disproportionately so much worse than our players reactions. Before the FA start (inconsistently) flexing their muscles, they should provide referee's that know the basic rules of the game, and have the ability to control the game fairly. Mason blew the half time whistle when the ball was out of play. Why? He had no grip on the time wasting tactics that Huddersfield employed from the kick off, right through to the final whistle. Waiting until the 80th minute to book the keeper for time wasting? Why? The best bit was probably in the second half when he waited until an 'injured' Huddersfield player was leaving the pitch (at snails pace), and was a foot away from the edge of edge of the pitch by the West Stand. Mason, the sharp tack that he is, decided this was wrong, so then called him back to walk across the full width of the pitch (still at snails pace of course) so he could leave on the other side. The Hudderfsield players played him like a trumpet. yorkleyblue, Scott Harris and Osgood is Good 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
icecoolguy22 Posted May 11, 2018 Share Posted May 11, 2018 Their GK was wasting time from the first goal kick to the last, and the f* referee only reacted around the 90 minutes mark, there should be at least 8 minutes added time with all the cramping and their players walking off at snail pace when getting subbed, ball out of play and he called HT? refree was out of order! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phillip Posted May 11, 2018 Share Posted May 11, 2018 Is it just me, or does Mason look just like Curly of the Three Stooges. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Osgood is Good Posted May 11, 2018 Share Posted May 11, 2018 I also am not into the conspiracy theory, however, generally a referee will blow the whistle if you even breathe on a keeper. Caballero on the other hand had a boot raised at him and was cleaned out by the Huddersfield striker. Still doesn't excuse that our poor defending allowed one punted ball over the top to cause problems. We shall see if West Ham and Man Utd receive any punishment after last night. WeatherMan, yorkleyblue and Backbiter 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davey Baby Posted May 11, 2018 Share Posted May 11, 2018 The thing with the corner, where he blew his whistle, I've seen that a couple of times in recent years. He's perfectly within his rights to do that, if injury time is up. I was amazed he didn't book any of our players for protesting. Of course there was an irony we got penalised for taking too long to take a corner (and Willian was strolling to take it rather than sprinting, which he should have been) when their keeper hadn't been penalised for taking too long to take goal kicks. As for their goal, I was at the game, had a great view, and it was impossible to see a foul in real time, it just looked like one big collision, and nobody around me complained at the ref for that one. The one where the player went off injured by the West Stand and then got subbed, the ref could do nothing about that, that was just clever/cynical tactics by Huddersfield. Having said that, he could have told the player to walk off faster, instead Willian had to try and do that. I didn't think Mason refereed the game unfairly. They time-wasted. We got 8 extra minutes over both halves. Normally you'd get 4 or 5 extra minutes over both halves so we got 3 or 4 minutes more than usual. I thought that was about right. The ball was in play plenty of time. We just couldn't get the goals we needed. charierre 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Backbiter Posted May 11, 2018 Share Posted May 11, 2018 There isn't much clarity about how much time should be added on for stoppages. Yes, 30 secs is meant to be added for every sub and the refs no doubt time the stoppage when the physio comes on to treat a player, but does the ref add time on when a player is fouled and a free kick is awarded? Because at the end of the first half, the board showed a minimum of 2 mins, and during that they fouled one of our players, which stopped the game for about 20 secs. From that free kick, the ball went out for a corner, but Mason blew up on exactly 2 mins, so he allowed zero seconds for the stoppage caused by the foul. I know this is nit-picking over seconds when we had an hour and a half to play with, but it isn't unreasonable that refs should be fair and transparent when deciding on stoppage time. Having a visible 'game clock' and someone else to do the timekeeping seems such an obvious solution. Refs have an incredibly hard job, so give them one less thing to cock up be responsible for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard P Posted May 11, 2018 Share Posted May 11, 2018 No point getting wound up. Until there is transparency on refs decisions and performance, where it can be discussed by the clubs involved this will carry on. This must be one of few jobs in the world where you can’t criticise or get comments on the job whether they perform good or bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluesince66 Posted May 11, 2018 Share Posted May 11, 2018 We all know they are clowns in black,that won't ever change. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Munkunku Posted May 11, 2018 Share Posted May 11, 2018 The standard of refereeing has definitely dropped since the FA put a stop to any criticism of the referee at all from anybody. If I gave a load of people food poisoning at work I’d be sacked and sued, pretty much having my whole life destroyed. These mugs can turn up and do what they like with no fear of repercussions and get paid a nice little mint on top. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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