With no message ot support from the new owners, despite Todd speaking publicly a few times, I do wonder if TT will be to them as Claudio was to Roman. 

The current placeholder but not the manager they chose.

15 minutes ago, axman2526 said:

With no message ot support from the new owners, despite Todd speaking publicly a few times, I do wonder if TT will be to them as Claudio was to Roman. 

The current placeholder but not the manager they chose.

This goes against all reports that Boehly wants to build a club around Tuchel's vision. 

30 minutes ago, axman2526 said:

With no message ot support from the new owners, despite Todd speaking publicly a few times, I do wonder if TT will be to them as Claudio was to Roman. 

The current placeholder but not the manager they chose.

I think the difference here is we needed to make that switch from Ranieri to Jose in order to be take that next step and compete regularly for trophies. With TT in charge we already have someone who can get us competing and challenging for (and hopefully winning) trophies. Any step to replace TT would be a significant step backwards and I hope that the new board are smart enough to recognise that. 

34 minutes ago, Sconnie Blue said:

This goes against all reports that Boehly wants to build a club around Tuchel's vision. 

 

16 minutes ago, drjonesy1994 said:

I think the difference here is we needed to make that switch from Ranieri to Jose in order to be take that next step and compete regularly for trophies. With TT in charge we already have someone who can get us competing and challenging for (and hopefully winning) trophies. Any step to replace TT would be a significant step backwards and I hope that the new board are smart enough to recognise that. 

Just a wonder Gents, often new owners of companies want their own people in place. 

22 hours ago, axman2526 said:

 

Just a wonder Gents, often new owners of companies want their own people in place. 

Didn't happen at united or arsenal. Fergie and Wenger were not moved on when those clubs had new ownership. 

It happens when someone comes in to a flailing club and invests. Newcastle, Chelsea 2005, city etc. In those instances, the manager isn't at the right level and needs replacing. 

When a club already has a top tier manager there isn't much evidence of that happening. 

22 hours ago, axman2526 said:

 

Just a wonder Gents, often new owners of companies want their own people in place. 

these are supposedly the front runners 

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2 hours ago, azpi28 said:

these are supposedly the front runners 

The only place they’re running to is the all you can eat buffet. 

55 minutes ago, Munkworth said:

The only place they’re running to is the all you can eat buffet. 

they probably have a mobility scooter

Chilwell - ??? - Kai - Mount - James

This is kinda how we attack, we barely get any offensive output from our midfield except maybe from kova so I just ignore them. 

If we can sign one player, I wonder who is the "worst" attacker that we can sign to make this team get to high 90s so we can compete with city n pool. 

 

I think we could and should think about 4 at back. 

James - Silva - Centerback - Chilwell

Azpilicueta - Chalobah - Centerback - Emerson

Gallagher - Kante - Mount

RLC - Defensive Mid - Kovacic

Ziyech - Havertz - Pulisic

Attacking Mid - Werner - CHO

Sell Jorginho as he carries good value, Bring back Gilmour, Broja and Ampadu for  backup roles. Keep Sarr for backup.

4-3-3 would make sense for our midfileders and many of the attackers. We have a ton of 8's in our ranks plus Ziyech would be able to fill the role he wants. Same goes with CHO. 

We just should then go for CB's who are comfortable in a pair. Koulibaly for example. 

 

 

 

 

Good to see TT being backed. With Lukaku gone it definitely puts the pressure on him though - it’s not like it is just Lukaku who underperformed last season. All our attackers bar Mount were hugely inconsistent.

4 hours ago, Adamrb said:

Good to see TT being backed. With Lukaku gone it definitely puts the pressure on him though - it’s not like it is just Lukaku who underperformed last season. All our attackers bar Mount were hugely inconsistent.

Yeah it’s quite refreshing to see Tuchel being backed and given authority. For years, the manager has been sidelined. 

On 22/06/2022 at 12:16, JM7 said:

Yeah it’s quite refreshing to see Tuchel being backed and given authority. For years, the manager has been sidelined. 

We know why that is. Giving too much room for a person who potentially stays for 1,5 years. I remember when we gave that room for the manager we ended up losing more money. "It was the last managers set of players". We need sporting director who has a footballing philosophy.

Should terminate Sarr's contract. 

Not even kidding. 

13 minutes ago, Sconnie Blue said:

Should terminate Sarr's contract. 

Not even kidding. 

He is good enough backup. We already own him. Let's not waste more money. We don't need to.

16 minutes ago, Sconnie Blue said:

Should terminate Sarr's contract. 

Not even kidding. 

Not sure what that would achieve. We’d still have to pay his contract. 

 

29 minutes ago, evissy said:

He is good enough backup. 

You are really saying that with a straight face after what we saw from him last season?

25 minutes ago, charierre said:

Not sure what that would achieve. We’d still have to pay his contract. 

 

Then loan him out. He will virtually be last in the pecking order behind Ampadu and Colwill.

A colossal waste of space of mediocrity. 

28 minutes ago, Sconnie Blue said:

Then loan him out.

Who would take him ?  No-one wanted him on loan last year after his poor loan the previous season in Portugal, and it's not as if his stock has risen based on his Chelsea appearances LOL.

13 hours ago, Sconnie Blue said:

You are really saying that with a straight face after what we saw from him last season?

Then loan him out. He will virtually be last in the pecking order behind Ampadu and Colwill.

A colossal waste of space of mediocrity. 

The only reason he was in the team last season was because nobody wanted him. We tried to loan him out. 

14 hours ago, Sconnie Blue said:

You are really saying that with a straight face after what we saw from him last season?

Then loan him out. He will virtually be last in the pecking order behind Ampadu and Colwill.

A colossal waste of space of mediocrity. 

He isn’t a waste of space though. I think fans are getting too fixated on his wages of £120k/w which gives a false impression he is overpaid. We signed him on a freebie, and instead of giving him a sign on fee + agent fees upfront, we decided to spread it out into a 5-year contract. In reality he is more on like £40k/w, with the agent + sign on fee making up about £80k/w. 
He is an highly rated CB with suitors in Serie A (Inter & AC Milan retain an interest), and West Ham are also interested. The only barrier to a move is our valuation of him. Anything around £25m and you will find teams lining up to buy him off us. He only just turned 23, but unless you are a Maldini regen fans have no patience.

5 hours ago, ducavis said:

He isn’t a waste of space though. I think fans are getting too fixated on his wages of £120k/w which gives a false impression he is overpaid. We signed him on a freebie, and instead of giving him a sign on fee + agent fees upfront, we decided to spread it out into a 5-year contract. In reality he is more on like £40k/w, with the agent + sign on fee making up about £80k/w. 
He is an highly rated CB with suitors in Serie A (Inter & AC Milan retain an interest), and West Ham are also interested. The only barrier to a move is our valuation of him. Anything around £25m and you will find teams lining up to buy him off us. He only just turned 23, but unless you are a Maldini regen fans have no patience.

Why does it have to be one extreme or the other.

Patience is all well and good but there has to be a projected end product of some substance there, Sarr looks in over his head.

"Raphinha’s agent Deco: “We spoke about Chelsea too, but Raphinha was afraid he’d be used as a wing back at some points in the season, as he isn’t used to that system."

2 minutes ago, dkw said:

"Raphinha’s agent Deco: “We spoke about Chelsea too, but Raphinha was afraid he’d be used as a wing back at some points in the season, as he isn’t used to that system."

Fair point, he has seen CHO, RLC and CP play there out of position.

If that is his worry, we should just go on and find another player. 

On 25/06/2022 at 17:50, axman2526 said:

Fair point, he has seen CHO, RLC and CP play there out of position.

Raphina is also a far better player than either of those 3 could dream of being.

All 3 have ended up at Wingback precisely because they're not good enough in their actual positions to get near the team.

You'd hope that wouldn't be the case for Raphina

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