February 11, 20215 yr Read a tweet somewhere which pointed out that the team which finished the game against Sheffield was the perfect representation of Modern Chelsea: Mendy (Cech Appointment) Azpi, Christensen, Rudiger (Back 3 from the Conte Era) Kante, Jorginho, Kova (Sarri's midfield) CHO, Mount (Lampard & Cobhams Touch up top) Wingbacks being a combination of Lampard & Conte, it is of little surprise we have a slightly disjointed team currently with various blends and flavors in the team, hopefully Tuchel is able to combine all the available assets together and compile a title winning team.
February 11, 20215 yr Wasn't a very impressive game, but have to give the credit to Tuchel. He recognized changes need to made, and he was quick to do so at the 45'. That completely changed the dynamic of the game, and a big factor leading to the win. He also saw players weren't performing, and did not hesitate to pull them out. On and forward!
February 11, 20215 yr 6 minutes ago, haviet1 said: Wasn't a very impressive game, but have to give the credit to Tuchel. He recognized changes need to made, and he was quick to do so at the 45'. That completely changed the dynamic of the game, and a big factor leading to the win. He also saw players weren't performing, and did not hesitate to pull them out. On and forward! Yep he doesn't wait until 70-75 minutes to realise doing the same sh*t and expecting a different result is insane. Performance to forget but that's the magic of the cup turn up with your expensively assembled squad and get turn over by a team worth one weeks wages of few of your players.
February 11, 20215 yr Credit to him for making the changes .That experiment with Emerson and Alonso both in the lineup was horrendous though. He was probably surprised that Barnsley actually came at us and they were not sitting back.But that's the problem with this formation.You're always going to have problems if you cb's aren't comfortable on the ball and you lose one player that are usually good on the ball in midfield/attack.
February 11, 20215 yr 5 games in and 4 wins. Tuchel seems to have turn things around results wise. Definitely the thing that is missing is the performances. Need a little more on the performances side because it’s a painful watch. At the minute, Tuchel is getting away with it because we’re winning but the moment we have 1 or 2 losses then there will be criticism. Can you imagine losing with one of these type of performances?
February 11, 20215 yr 23 minutes ago, Brutos said: Yep he doesn't wait until 70-75 minutes to realise doing the same sh*t and expecting a different result is insane. Performance to forget but that's the magic of the cup turn up with your expensively assembled squad and get turn over by a team worth one weeks wages of few of your players. He did in the Wolves game. Lesson learned perhaps.
February 11, 20215 yr Said in the match thread tonight's game was pretty much the same as Sheffield United on Sunday. Lots of possession, didn't do a great deal with it, rarely threatened, and never looked entirely comfortable at any point. The only difference was this was played on a ploughed field. We're winning but we're winning ugly. For now, that's probably enough for Roman. Play like this and don't make the 4, it probably won't be.
February 11, 20215 yr Tonight Thomas learned that teams who are prepared to press us are a significantly different proposition to the teams who will passively let us have possession. He has a long way to go with this group before we can truly acclaim him the second coming.
February 11, 20215 yr I actually like these wins. Title winning team always seem to find a way to grind out a 1-0 win, even when playing poorly. Athletico Madrid never play pretty, but they always win 1-0, 2-0, etc.
February 12, 20215 yr 4 hours ago, Gol15 said: IMO he should switch to a back 4 as soon as T.Silva as back. I think he may want players with tactical flexability that allow him to change between a back 3 and a back 4 without making any subs, so he could change it during a first half if things are not going well for example. So if he started with the 343 Mendy Azpi Silva Rudiger James Jorginho Kovacic Chilwell Mount Abraham CHO He could then go Mendy Azpi Silva Rudiger Chilwell James Jorginho Kovacic CHO Mount Abraham
February 12, 20215 yr Also we have yet to see if Tuchel has what is needed to get this lot to turn a game around once going behind. We have seen a sore lack of fight in that position in the last few months of Frank and I have yet to see anything that tells me anything has changed in that regard.
February 12, 20215 yr 5 games, 4 wins, 1 draw, 6 scored, 1 conceded (Rudigers own goal), from 10th to 5th, through to next round in the FA Cup. Only 5 games in but we can see the style Tuchel wants to implement but he haven't found his best players nor have the players executed his ideas in full. We have had 4 managers to try and build from the back and we still can't do it so it tells me we don't have the personnel for it. I know it isn't easy but my word are we bad at it. We end up whipping the ball up the field 70% of the time. Tuchel has a system of creating triangle between defenders and midfield to break out from it but currently it is not working very well. Sometimes I question the intelligence of some of our players. What gives me hopes is Tuchel is great at drilling players to learn how to cope in situations in games.
February 12, 20215 yr 10 hours ago, JM7 said: 5 games in and 4 wins. Tuchel seems to have turn things around results wise. Definitely the thing that is missing is the performances. Need a little more on the performances side because it’s a painful watch. At the minute, Tuchel is getting away with it because we’re winning but the moment we have 1 or 2 losses then there will be criticism. Can you imagine losing with one of these type of performances? Literally the only difference between Tuchel and Lampard is the opposition isnt getting that goal they keep threatening, we are scraping wins with rubbish performances whereas we were drawing/losing with rubbish performances under Frank. We have had one decent game under Tuchel, the rest have been garbage, back to hundreds of nonsense passes backwards and sideways, back to no penetration from midfield, back to hoping someone manages to create something. Our youth players are dragging us through games. People keep going on about seeing progress, changes etc but I cant see any, its the same old sh*te with the same old sh*te players.
February 12, 20215 yr The biggest task for Tuchel is to get us creating chances, because we are struggling to create more than 2 decent opportunities a game at this point. The wingers and midfielders have been awful on the attack, especially the wingers. Pulisic has been horrendous this season, same with Ziyech. Injuries don't help, but they shouldn't be THIS bad. Pulisic can barely get into a game these days, it's like playing with a man down. Ziyech is conceding possession too easily and is half assing everything. Hudson-Odoi has improved this season, but I still don't think he is a player that will strike fear into the opposition just yet. He doesn't dominate games or play well for the full 90 minutes. The wingers aren't even an upgrade on Pedro and Willian at this point, that is how bad things have become in that area. As for the midfielders, the only one capable of being creative and offering a threat in attack seems to be Mount, and even he is patchy. The others are good in deeper positions, but once they need to start putting attacks together, they break down.
February 12, 20215 yr 6 minutes ago, dkw said: We have had one decent game under Tuchel Out of interest, which game?
February 12, 20215 yr 6 minutes ago, dkw said: Our youth players are dragging us through games. Which is the best aspect of the season.
February 12, 20215 yr Just now, Sindre said: Out of interest, which game? Burnley, the rest were painful to watch.
February 12, 20215 yr 4 minutes ago, Sindre said: Out of interest, which game? 3 minutes ago, Scott Harris said: Burnley, the rest were painful to watch. Scott knows....
February 12, 20215 yr 7 minutes ago, Scott Harris said: The biggest task for Tuchel is to get us creating chances, because we are struggling to create more than 2 decent opportunities a game at this point. The wingers and midfielders have been awful on the attack, especially the wingers. Pulisic has been horrendous this season, same with Ziyech. Injuries don't help, but they shouldn't be THIS bad. Pulisic can barely get into a game these days, it's like playing with a man down. Ziyech is conceding possession too easily and is half assing everything. Hudson-Odoi has improved this season, but I still don't think he is a player that will strike fear into the opposition just yet. He doesn't dominate games or play well for the full 90 minutes. The wingers aren't even an upgrade on Pedro and Willian at this point, that is how bad things have become in that area. As for the midfielders, the only one capable of being creative and offering a threat in attack seems to be Mount, and even he is patchy. The others are good in deeper positions, but once they need to start putting attacks together, they break down. Our midfielders when they get in the opposition half And back to the keeper.....
February 12, 20215 yr 3 minutes ago, dkw said: Scott knows.... Figured you meant Burnley. To label the performance away to Spurs as garbage is harsh though. In my opinion that was a good performance all in all. Everything went to sh*t when Kovacic was replaced by Kante but that was only for the last 15 minutes or so. Up until that we controlled that game.
February 12, 20215 yr Wolves at home, decent first 10-15, then resembling the worst of Sarri ball till about an hour but then we picked up the pace and were unlucky not to find a winner. Burnley at home, great performance should have been a lot more. Spurs away, great for 2/3rds but then constantly buggered up the final ball, fair score would have been 3-0. Sheffield away, tragic first 15-20, but then controlled the game better. Wasn't the best performance and we probably couldn't have complained if they got a point but we were facing a side who are well coaches in defending and frustrating, a week before they forced the runaway leaders into a similar fight of a match on their own patch. Last night, yes that was tragic no arguments there.
February 12, 20215 yr As i said, at least we’re winning for now and we are controlling games pretty well. Teams aren’t having lots of shots on goal. We just need to work on creating and finishing chances. Once we do that, we’ll be a really good team. The basics are there.
February 12, 20215 yr Tuchel is fortunate with the opposition we've faced since coming in. The results we've had so far are probably the same results or similar that Lampard would have got. Where we've typically struggled is against teams in the top half of the table who are more willing to step up onto us and play in our half. So far Tuchel has played against sides setting up to play on the back foot against us. Creatively we continue to be pretty woeful. Their keeper didn't have to make any saves last night and that's been the story of Tuchel's football so far. Still early days yet but the switch in formation doesn't seem to have helped our struggles in the final third.
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