2 hours ago, BewareoftheDrog said:

Not been here for a while. However:-

Chelsea Hat: Check

Chelsea flag: check

Chelsea 1970 FAC winners shirt on: check

Beer: check

TV working: oh boll**ks!!!

Stream anyone??

 

 

Gonna quote myself here:- Chelsea Hat back in wardrobe. Check

Chelsea flag back in cupboard. Check

Chelsea 1970 FAC winners shirt back in box. Check

Hugely disappointed. Check

Some beer still left. Check

Drink self into stupor. Check

See you for the CL Final

I want to see Pulisic, Mount and Werner in our attack for the remaining games. James and Chillwell as our wingback. Hopefully Kovacic recovers soon so we can play him with Kante in midfield.

Final rant...not sure what Bt were like but BBC’s coverage was a disgrace. I get the underdog and Leicester being more of a story, but it was the most one-sided coverage of a final I’ve ever seen. They even knew they were crossing the line with commentator and lineker saying at different points ‘sorry chelsea fans watching, we are saying this (but basically in other words fcuk it)...’

chelsea aren’t popular, we’re part of the super league conspiracy playing a team who had never won the competition before..I was always expecting this to be reflected somewhat. But it was so Leicester orientated, it was like tuning into Leicester’s own website. Expect the national broadcaster to try and be fair to both sides.

4 minutes ago, Jezq8 said:

Maybe the Var was dodgy. 
 

but what did we create today.? Apart from a super save by Kasper? Yes first half we had control of the game. But I can’t remember any clear chance. 
 

finals are won by individual brilliance and that’s that.

we need to get a win on Tuesday and against villa! 
 

lastly, changing goal keepers can’t be healthy it seems to disrupt that back line. I want mendy in goal from now on Thomas ! 

Bang on, I agree it disrupts the rear line. The defence gets used to when the keeper comes for the ball, his overall positioning and his view of the game. Not to mention that Kepa isn't good enough. 

Just now, The Brit said:

Final rant...not sure what Bt were like but BBC’s coverage was a disgrace. I get the underdog and Leicester being more of a story, but it was the most one-sided coverage of a final I’ve ever seen. They even knew they were crossing the line with commentator and lineker saying at different points ‘sorry chelsea fans watching, we are saying this (but basically in other words fcuk it)...’

chelsea aren’t popular, we’re part of the super league conspiracy playing a team who had never won the competition before..I was always expecting this to be reflected somewhat. But it was so Leicester orientated, it was like tuning into Leicester’s own website. Expect the national broadcaster to try and be fair to both sides.

BT much the same 

All this talk about new contracts for Tuchel, Rudiger, Silva and Jorginho’s agent chatting about things all since the lately surely can’t of helped.

IMO contracts and performances should always be reviewed at the end of season not a few matches from the end, especially with 2 cup finals and an ongoing battle for top 4 still to be sorted.

Sporting matters first money matters after the season ends.

19 minutes ago, KonaKai Blue said:

Had we won today and lost on Tuesday, as good as today would've been, the sick feeling of losing out top 4 and potentially city will hurt for a lot longer. If we get top 4 and still lose the CL, at least we can have another REALISTIC crack next season.

I too am not fussed about this loss. Well I do have a bitter taste from that offside goal but before that I accepted defeat. Won't be losing any sleep.

You're talking horsesh*t. 

Do you know how this reads to me? This is how I am reading it "never mind losing two finals, because if we make top 4, we can celebrate giving it another go next season"

It's such a losers mentality, almost Tottenham like. I don't celebrate taking part, I celebrate winning. 

Anybody that isn't fussed about losing a cup final doesn't understand the passion for the game. If this how you feel, then you must have loved the idea of the Super League. After all, we would have been guaranteed to take part in that every season. 

Our most successful era was built on winning these competitions, it gave us belief that we could go on and keep winning more. So when I see somebody like you playing it down like it's almost meaningless, it really pisses me off and I can't help but feel you're not a true fan of club. Sorry if that sounds harsh, but I cannot accept any fan not feeling really hurt by this loss. This is the ultimate prize for football fans and the players, nothing gets better than seeing your team win trophies, but to you, it's not important because we are still going for a top 4 finish, something that only guarantees you play in one competition, nothing more. It's not even comparable to losing a cup final.

14 minutes ago, Gol15 said:

We lost because VAR denied us a clear goal. So instead of going 1:1 we lost 0:1. All because of a non-existing offside decision. Leicester scored a goal after having 1 shot on target from 30 yards or so.

You don't lose a game on one isolated decision. You lose because of a lot of little decisions that add up, such as the ones I've highlighted. You could also throw in the decision of playing Alonso over Chilwell and not giving Giroud more game time or not having Abraham on the bench...

So now we lost 2 games to Leicester this season and same to Arsenal.  I hope Leicester won't get the better of us on Tuesday. That would be just too much.

25 minutes ago, Gol15 said:

Not at all, his run was perfectly timed.

 

Come on gol. Any sensible person would not provide that clip as evidence. 

At least scott put a still up from in line, which i also think he is offside, but i get scotts point about the frame. The technology isnt there becsuse it only records in 30 fps. 

Tough decision, but we have seen them ruled out closer than that all season. 

1 minute ago, SaS said:

You don't lose a game on one isolated decision. You lose because of a lot of little decisions that add up, such as the ones I've highlighted. You could also throw in the decision of playing Alonso over Chilwell and not giving Giroud more game time or not having Abraham on the bench...

Yes you can, if Leicester's goal wasn't allowed because of VAR for whatever reason and our goal was allowed then they would have lost the game unfairly as well. You can't ignore the biggest decision in the game, a clear goal getting erased after some millimeter fake offside, specially not in a final where the two teams are very similar, that alone changed everything. 

3 minutes ago, big blue said:

Come on gol. Any sensible person would not provide that clip as evidence. 

At least scott put a still up from in line, which i also think he is offside, but i get scotts point about the frame. The technology isnt there becsuse it only records in 30 fps. 

Tough decision, but we have seen them ruled out closer than that all season. 

Watch the clip like I did, 10 times. And then tell me if you can honestly say that Chilwell's run isn't timed perfectly. That's all I'm asking.

1 minute ago, The Brit said:

Final rant...not sure what Bt were like but BBC’s coverage was a disgrace. I get the underdog and Leicester being more of a story, but it was the most one-sided coverage of a final I’ve ever seen. They even knew they were crossing the line with commentator and lineker saying at different points ‘sorry chelsea fans watching, we are saying this (but basically in other words fcuk it)...’

chelsea aren’t popular, we’re part of the super league conspiracy playing a team who had never won the competition before..I was always expecting this to be reflected somewhat. But it was so Leicester orientated, it was like tuning into Leicester’s own website. Expect the national broadcaster to try and be fair to both sides.

I am going to argue that the BBC comer game was excellent today, I watched it all from before lunch, there was an hour of Ashley Cole going through his cup final appearances for example

You are right the “romance” of the club was always going to favour Leicester. It really doesn’t bother me and the fact that they won. 
 

The VAR decision massively bothers me. It’s there to correct clear and obvious errors but it clear is not and the fact this is the third FA cup final in a row where we been undone by very dubious reffing decisions. At least it wasn’t Arsenal this time. 
 

oh well, onwards and upwards, we are a young team going in the right direction over time this will be a blip. 
 

 

 

24 minutes ago, abigsmurf said:

Here's the resolution of VAR in making decisions (based on 25fps video).

A man running can be out by as much as 15cm (a foot of a running person can be as much as 30cm out). Additionally, the foot kicking the ball can also be up to 30cm out

Then there's the inherent inaccuracy of manually drawing the points the lines are based on. On top of the above inaccuracies.

In short, it's f**king farcical having any confidence in saying offsides that tight are "clear and obvious errors". 

 

"Clear and obvious" is not applied to offsides. The principle is that you are either on or off. It's meant to be an objective decision, but as we know, it's based on a subjectively paused, blurry still-image of a player and a ball both in motion. 

6 minutes ago, 2211 said:

All this talk about new contracts for Tuchel, Rudiger, Silva and Jorginho’s agent chatting about things all since the lately surely can’t of helped.

IMO contracts and performances should always be reviewed at the end of season not a few matches from the end, especially with 2 cup finals and an ongoing battle for top 4 still to be sorted.

Sporting matters first money matters after the season ends.

 

I really wouldn't care if Jorginho goes, I understand he is supposed to be the linchpin of the team at the back but far too often he makes negative plays and we just go nowhere. I watched the Arsenal game where he had a space in front of him and really wanted to pass to someone in that space even though there was no one in that part of the pitch, it just doesn't occur to him to run into that space.

Oh and I utterly hate how modern defenders have become utter wusses when it comes to getting hit by the ball, turning sideways is never a good look and offers more room.

16 minutes ago, The Brit said:

Final rant...not sure what Bt were like but BBC’s coverage was a disgrace. I get the underdog and Leicester being more of a story, but it was the most one-sided coverage of a final I’ve ever seen. They even knew they were crossing the line with commentator and lineker saying at different points ‘sorry chelsea fans watching, we are saying this (but basically in other words fcuk it)...’

chelsea aren’t popular, we’re part of the super league conspiracy playing a team who had never won the competition before..I was always expecting this to be reflected somewhat. But it was so Leicester orientated, it was like tuning into Leicester’s own website. Expect the national broadcaster to try and be fair to both sides.

I personally think this is only the start, does anyone think the media and companies like Sky, BT Sport and Talksport really want anything other than Leicester & Liverpool making the top 4 and us finishing 5th.

I think this will be seriously ramped up over the next few days.

And let’s not even think about the perceived romance and beauty of Pep finally getting his hands on the Champions League for Man City.

The reality is, as I’m sure we will see in the next couple of weeks is nobody wants us to succeed accept Chelsea fans.

None of that would even matter if we had players mentally strong enough to block out the noise and get on with the job in hand and knuckle down to work.

The real problem is we don’t have nowhere near enough of those characters at the club.

Edited May 15, 20215 yr by 2211

37 minutes ago, BordeauxBlue said:

In thirty years, Leicester fans will still remember lifting a cup. 

 

Who gives two craps about top 4, apart from accountants and a

Top 4 for me. It's a democracy. We are all filled to choose

 

1 minute ago, The Don Antonio said:

Top 4 for me. It's a democracy. We are all filled to choose

 

At this rate it might wlel be neither...

I remember when VAR was bought in and they said it wouldn't run the game and would only cancel out the really bad mistakes, but that isn't what is happening at all, it's completely taken over the game. Why are offsides not treated the same way as penalty decisions? It only gets overturned if it's a clear and obvious error. Why isn't this rule applied to every VAR decision?

Also, I can't even f**king celebrate a goal anymore. I'm just sitting here waiting for a few seconds. The players start celebrating, I watch them hoping VAR doesn't get involved, I post on here thinking we have scored, but then I return to the game and I see VAR check, fearing the worst, and the worst comes to pass. I should be shouting in excitement when a goal is scored, but now I am silent, waiting for the moment where VAR decides if the goal was good or not. By the time a good is given, the moment passes and the only emotion I feel is relief..............f**king bin it.

Edited May 15, 20215 yr by Scott Harris

Im absolutely devastated. This is the third FA Cup final we have lost in 5 years and each one has hurt more than the one before. 

We cant even talk about what's more important, because we havent secured top 4 yet or won the Champions League, and this game will have no bearing on those events.

It just hurts so much. I thought any handball that leads to a goal is not allowed..but they are saying it was 7 seconds until he scored so that was long enough, nonsense. Then the chilwell goal was prob taken at a later frame. Either way it came down to a poor selection from Tuchel. We should of played our best 11, and then could of made some substitutions later. We only looked threathening after those 5 subs came on..and by that time it was gone 70 mins.

30 minutes ago, Gol15 said:

We lost because VAR denied us a clear goal. So instead of going 1:1 we lost 0:1. All because of a non-existing offside decision. Leicester scored a goal after having 1 shot on target from 30 yards or so.

We lost because we were sh*t. Nothing to do with VAR

It looks like teams have figured out to match our formation and match us man for man while also putting pressure on Jorginho. While playing a low block

It worked for Brighton Arsenal and Leicester. Thankfully mancity will play a back 4 in the UCL final 

4 minutes ago, BordeauxBlue said:

At this rate it might wlel be neither...

Meant to say free to choose. Daem auto correct but u catch my drift

3 minutes ago, Stas1 said:

We lost because we were sh*t. Nothing to do with VAR

It can be both. We were sh*t, especially in the second half, we came out really sluggish, like all of the energy had drained away. But we also can't ignore VAR's part. Both or own performance and VAR played a part.