Here's Peter Walton talking to BT:

"

VAR would not have got involved in the incident, because the goalscoring opportunity did not occur immediately after there was a potential handball.

"There were 7 seconds or so between that potential handball and the ball hitting the back of the net. That's not immediately and the law states it's only an offence if a goalscoring opportunity happens immediately. Good use of VAR."

So in his view the goal didn't follow immediately enough. Let's face it, 7 seconds is not immediate. It would have to be, say, 6 seconds before VAR could review it (He knows the rule doesn't define immediately so allows him to come up with any figure he likes to defend Var.) What a load of bollocks.

But at least he knows the handball rule. Unlike the MotD presenters.

 

The law is an ass. The handball, even with an element of bad luck on Perez’s part cos it came off his leg, played a major factor in Leicester winning the ball back for Tielemans to have freedom/space in midfield  to shoot seconds later. Without it Leicester don’t score.

similarly on Wednesday when Mount’s goal bound shot was blocked by an arsenal player’s hand should have been a pen for us. 

Edited May 15, 20215 yr by The Brit

1 hour ago, Backbiter said:

Here's Peter Walton talking to BT:

"

VAR would not have got involved in the incident, because the goalscoring opportunity did not occur immediately after there was a potential handball.

"There were 7 seconds or so between that potential handball and the ball hitting the back of the net. That's not immediately and the law states it's only an offence if a goalscoring opportunity happens immediately. Good use of VAR."

So in his view the goal didn't follow immediately enough. Let's face it, 7 seconds is not immediate. It would have to be, say, 6 seconds before VAR could review it (He knows the rule doesn't define immediately so allows him to come up with any figure he likes to defend Var.) What a load of bollocks.

But at least he knows the handball rule. Unlike the MotD presenters.

 

He also said he didnt think it was a handball because it came off his knee. The guy is an absolute clown..he basically just agrees with his pals on the pitch and in the var room, no matter what decision they give.

However many goals have we seen that have disallowed even for the most unintentional handballs. The goal was scored seconds after it happened all in the same phase of play. All i heard on bbc and then on motd is it would of been a shame to disallow such a good goal. Well wasent it a shame for them to disallow a last minute equaliser.

I'm starting to worry about TT.Why play Kepa when he has proven unworthy?.Alonso and Jorginho are squad players,each have a (limited) role to play, but christ on a bike to start both tells me TT is missing a few cogs in the wheel.

This Var thing is a joke millimetres off side!..get a f**king grip it's destroying what's left of 'the beautful game's,and finally Silva was more at fault than kepa - there comes a time when you HAVE to make a challenge.

2 hours ago, The Brit said:

The law is an ass. The handball, even with an element of bad luck on Perez’s part cos it came off his leg, played a major factor in Leicester winning the ball back for Tielemans to have freedom/space in midfield  to shoot seconds later. Without it Leicester don’t score.

similarly on Wednesday when Mount’s goal bound shot was blocked by an arsenal player’s hand should have been a pen for us. 

Speaking of Wednesday Brit, in the first half Leicester were given a free kick for handball by Silva for the exact same hand position that Arsenal were not punished for in the incident you mentioned. Same distance traveled from the ball to hit the hand too basically as well.

 

So 9 finals out of 12 lost eh? We are becoming the second biggest bottle jobs in the land, behind Spurs. Though we are frightfully catching them up at an alarming rate.

Edited May 16, 20215 yr by axman2526

One thing on the ref/VAR calls. Regardless of whether they were right or wrong by the letter of the law one thing we can all be 100% sure on is if those calls had gone the other way everyone including Brendan and all the pundits would be saying what an injustice it is, that they were robbed and how VAR is ruining football.

Cause it happened to Chelsea though is all good.

10 hours ago, Backbiter said:

Still confused about the non-handball decision. Here is the law:

The handball is indisputable, and the goal-scoring opportunity arose as a result. 

I'll be interested to hear the official explanation.

 

 

 

Looks like you learn something new every day. Your image doesn’t include all the rules, especially the caveats. The first exception to it being an offence is interesting shall we say...

10 hours ago, Deino said:

For me, Mendy in goal might not save that but Tielemans won't try a long range shot with Mendy in goal.

With Kepa, you know he dives with the wrong hand. Habits is hard to change.

What? If you are running at goal and the defender infront of you is backing off you take it as far as you can before shooting, silva invited him to shoot and he did

8 hours ago, axman2526 said:

Thanks to @Malta Blue who gave me a way to watch it, sadly it was a boring game and we just did not do enough to win.

No problem you can thank the good folks over at the nfl. I started using on demand streams like that so I could watch the 49ers especially the SNF and the MNF

27 minutes ago, axman2526 said:

One thing on the ref/VAR calls. Regardless of whether they were right or wrong by the letter of the law one thing we can all be 100% sure on is if those calls had gone the other way everyone including Brendan and all the pundits would be saying what an injustice it is, that they were robbed and how VAR is ruining football.

Cause it happened to Chelsea though is all good.

Agreed.

Very disappointed we lost. To say the least. Sorry it’s not exactly any deep footballing insight!

12 hours ago, nonotnowjim said:

Blame VAR all we like. 

But we:

1) have not scored in the last 2 games

2) have no plan b

3) played at a single geared, pedestrian, tippy teapot sh*t. Where was the energy of the Madrid games?!

4) created f**k all

5) gifted them the ball with a criminal mistake from James. He has ultimately cost us the game. 
 

We are looking like spurs bottle jobs.

At no point during the match did I feel that our players - bar the exception or two - had the desire to win this, to play for the badge. We've lost before and I'm usually quite capable of shaking off the disappointment, but now I'm downright gloomy. Is this our team? What the hell happened? We beat Atletico, Porto, Madrid, City, and we can't beat Leicester? This isn't just on Werner missing chance after chance, this is on the mentality of the squad. And with what gameplan are they sent out onto the pitch for heaven's sake? If we have such a world class head coach, having seen in earlier matches how we can't break down teams, why isn't he more rigorous and decisive in changing things around?

I'm dreading things to come.

Edited May 16, 20215 yr by Valerie

8 hours ago, Backbiter said:

You writing off West Brom's chances tomorrow?

Zero chance West Brom can do anything. They are already relegated.

This lost final hurts so much because it was probably the most achievable silverware this year and that all the awesome work done by Tuchel ending up this way. He blew it by not playing his best line ups on both games. Now things are crumbling and we may end up with nothing which would be a huge blow. I still believe we were the better team in both of the last two games and we didn't deserve to lose, but we weren't great either.  Not starting our best team cost us here. Not having goal scoring striker cost us here. 

On Tuesday you can bet that Leicester will come for a point and will be parking a bus to hurt us on the counter. it will be hard to create goal scoring opportunities. They will be slowing us down due to a packed midfield and defence.

This is the game where Giroud needs to start as crosses likely would be the key to scoring the first goal. Still time to turn this around and end up on high.

            MENDY

AZPI SILVA RUDIGER

  JAMES        CHILWELL

       KANTE   KOVA

     MOUNT    PULISIC

               GIROUD 

     

Imagine if any other striker was given the opportunities instead of Werner. He reminds me of the shi* kid at school who always got picked because of his effort. I even watched Welbeck score for Brighton yesterday and thought to myself how much more accomplished he looked.

2 hours ago, Malta Blue said:

What? If you are running at goal and the defender infront of you is backing off you take it as far as you can before shooting, silva invited him to shoot and he did

I think it was the error of Jorginho who waved to Silva and asked him to close down Tielemans instead of attacking the Leicester player on his own.

18 minutes ago, rocker_joker said:

 

On Tuesday you can bet that Leicester will come for a point and will be parking a bus to hurt us on the counter. it will be hard to create goal scoring opportunities. They will be slowing us down due to a packed midfield and defence.

This is the game where Giroud needs to start as crosses likely would be the key to scoring the first goal. Still time to turn this around and end up on high.

            MENDY

AZPI SILVA RUDIGER

  JAMES        CHILWELL

       KANTE   KOVA

     MOUNT    PULISIC

               GIROUD 

     

Mendy

James Silva Rüdiger

CHO Kante Kova Chilwell

Mount Havertz Pulisic

I would start like this. CHO was hurting them in the last 20 minutes and James did a fantastic job with his speed to stop Vardy.

i promise i never edited the picture and expertly moved him back about a foot but you can see he chilly is definitely behind the lines VAR doodle onto the frame

VAR really a great addition to the game as instead of sitting and bemoaning bad offside calls we... sit and bemoan bad offside calls; but with the add minutae of how many mm's offside. 

Shoulda done goal line tech and be done with it.

I don’t think we can really blame VAR. It’s frustrating but we didn’t do nearly enough to win the game. Leicester took their one chance and scored. I don’t think either team was any better than each other. Just comes down to one moment 

Just like JM7 said, we done nothing really to deserve the game neither did Leicester. If you don't want to run the risk of 50/50 ref calls don't let it get to that stage.

We show no urgency until we go behind and then I can't see any goals from anywhere apart from Mason and Pulisic. 

The disappointment isn't in the VAR or ref calls, it's in the teams approach to a cup final.

2 hours ago, Malta Blue said:

No problem you can thank the good folks over at the nfl. I started using on demand streams like that so I could watch the 49ers especially the SNF and the MNF

Which stream was that?

The fear is that we will lose two finals and not finish in top 4...TT must learn from his errors...he's selected the wrong teams and been slow in making changes during the game itself...the same criticisms that were directed at Frank...

When we lost the CL final in 2008 I didn't buy a paper for a week I didn't use the internet back then. The Leicester love in is grating I've barely looked at any news sites it's going to be even worse if we lose to City.😟

1 hour ago, Malta Blue said:

i promise i never edited the picture and expertly moved him back about a foot but you can see he chilly is definitely behind the lines VAR doodle onto the frame

This goal should have stood.