31 minutes ago, Sexyfootball said:

Or alternative take, looking at the career Chelsea tallies of our forwards :

Mount (30) + Pulisic (25) + Havertz (24) + Ziyech (14) + Sterling (3) + Broja (0) + Aubameyang (0) = 96 = Trossard 🙂

Then buy Trossard in January.

He is such a nice guy everyone will like him which will delight the owner.  Important thing is that everyone respects his managerial skills ,tactics and dealing with players. Keep our fingers cross  Alan Sugar once said business people lose brains when they go into football.  Giving 5 unproven people 5 year contracts I think confirms this.

Still feels like I will wake up from this nightmare. Looks like a perfect yes man appointment. Brighton fans don't even seem to be that bothered about him. They are more angry about Bruno. I felt Chelsea had finally turned a corner. We will be hunting for a new manager at the end of the season.

It’s been a long time since we last won a trophy with an English manager and that was the really prestigious Full Members Cup in 1990 which followed our equally excellent second division title the previous year. 
 

It has been over 50 years since we last won anything significant with an English manager. Time to write some new history Mr. Potter! 

5 hours ago, azpi28 said:

Östersunds are now 16th in the Swedish second division. With Potter they played in the Europa League

Middlesbrough are 17th in the Championship, with McClaren, they won the League Cup and reached the UEFA Cup final.

I'm not saying Potter will be a failure, but his achievements with Ostersunds mean very little, because it's a world of difference when it comes to coaching.

Edited September 9, 20223 yr by Scott Harris

Wow, so much negativity. 
Welcome Mr Potter, welcome to Chelsea, best of luck.

Now, get this team playing proper football, ditch the turgid f**king boring crap we’ve had to watch for god knows how long and f**k off all the w**kers that don’t give a f**k about this club. 

So a DoF still has yet to be chosen. There goes the rumors a DoF chose Potter when in reality it will be the other way around. 

This screams panic move I'm afraid. 

First English manager to win the European Cup since Brian Clough, you heard it here first.

Since Glenn Hoddle is think only Rafa has received more negativity to his appointment as our manager than Potter, just.

9 hours ago, dkw said:

I was happy for him to get a chance during the period of struggle with Lampard, simply because we had a reasonable showing of a long term plan and strategy to integrate young players into the squad, and felt Lampard would be given more chances due to his connections to the club, I was hopeful we would finally settle as a club, I could see a way forward and a way out, it was nothing to do with it being a club legend for me, it was all about a hope we were going to change the direction of the club and Roman would allow that. I've said many times I wasn't disappointed he got sacked because he was Frank Lampard, I was disappointed he got sacked because of the hope that died.

Under Tuchel there were no indications whatsoever he had any idea what to do, he admitted himself several times, we were progressively getting worse in every single way, he was putting players in positions to fail and had sucked every inch of enjoyment out of everything to do with watching us, it was tedious nonsense designed not to lose rather than to win.

 

But hey, if anyone is simple enough to think I "hated" Tuchel because he followed Lampard in then thats on them. Ive said I had zero resentment towards him when he came and hoped he would win everything available and prove to be the best manager we had ever had. I went of him as time went on due to his handling of young English players, his tactics which never progressed from just defending to nick a win, his tactics designed to shield certain players form their weakness`s rather than build on the strengths of others, his complete inability to get any semblance of attacking style. 

You literally wrote that you had decided to not like Tuchel after he had been in the job for about two months. This was in a debate with me in like March or April 21.

So good luck rewriting history but everyone know you where a tedios whiner for Tuchels entire reign.

 

6 minutes ago, axman2526 said:

Since Glenn Hoddle is think only Rafa has received more negativity to his appointment as our manager than Potter, just.

It's quite polarising. I'd say more fans are excited about this appointment than were about tuchel. 

5 minutes ago, axman2526 said:

Since Glenn Hoddle is think only Rafa has received more negativity to his appointment as our manager than Potter, just.

With Rafa we knew he was interim so we could sort of get away with being negative, and then we had Jose II to fall back on.

With Potter i think people are worried were going to look even bigger fools if it goes tits, and Tuchel goes somewhere else and succeeds, which is very possible.

It would feel like it does every time KDB scores a goal, gutting.

14 minutes ago, bisright1 said:

It's quite polarising. I'd say more fans are excited about this appointment than were about tuchel. 

If that is right, and am not sure it is, probably that was because more people were upset Frank got sacked whereas we were shocked TT Did.

12 minutes ago, coco said:

With Rafa we knew he was interim so we could sort of get away with being negative, and then we had Jose II to fall back on.

With Potter i think people are worried were going to look even bigger fools if it goes tits, and Tuchel goes somewhere else and succeeds, which is very possible.

It would feel like it does every time KDB scores a goal, gutting.

Fair point. Though you were never worried Roman may decide to keep Rafa?

1 minute ago, axman2526 said:

 

Fair point. Though you were never worried Roman may decide to keep Rafa?

I can't remember but i don't think so. I was jokingly calling for Jose to come back towards the end of Rafa, then next thing Jose being interviewed on TV in London, smirking when asked if he's returning to Chelsea, can't remember what he said, but remember being absolutely shocked when it was announced he was coming back.

People put too much stock into getting a manager that 'has won something'. In the end, the vast majority of successful managers have become successful because they have been given a chance by a big club.

Would people on here be interested in Guardiola, Klopp, and Zidane when they were at Barcelona B, Mainz, and Madrid B, respectively? No, the same negativity would be there. But because Real Madrid, Dortmund, and Barcelona gave them a chance, they have now become managers everyone wants.

Nobody would be interested in a manager who kept Mainz up and then got them relegated, nor two second-tier Spanish league managers. But some of the biggest clubs in their respective leagues gave those managers a chance, and they reaped the benefits.

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8 minutes ago, coco said:

I can't remember but i don't think so. I was jokingly calling for Jose to come back towards the end of Rafa, then next thing Jose being interviewed on TV in London, smirking when asked if he's returning to Chelsea, can't remember what he said, but remember being absolutely shocked when it was announced he was coming back.

I remember Rafa sort of confirmed it for me when he said regarding the Chelsea fans "You don't need to worry about me, a new manager is already coming in"

I actually felt a bit for Rafa at the end! That day when he was walking off with Mata, who then turned direction to go to the fans, while Rafa carried on down the tunnel head down cause he felt he couldn't go over. I reckon he would've loved to of stayed, but it was a case of Cheers now son, Jose's home!

14 minutes ago, Chelsc96 said:

People put too much stock into getting a manager that 'has won something'. In the end, the vast majority of successful managers have become successful because they have been given a chance by a big club.

Would people on here be interested in Guardiola, Klopp, and Zidane when they were at Barcelona B, Mainz, and Madrid B, respectively? No, the same negativity would be there. But because Real Madrid, Dortmund, and Barcelona gave them a chance, they have now become managers everyone wants.

Nobody would be interested in a manager who kept Mainz up and then got them relegated, nor two second-tier Spanish league managers. But some of the biggest clubs in their respective leagues gave those managers a chance, and they reaped the benefits.

First 2 you mention would lift any dressing room as soon as they walk in.  Not many of those about

25 minutes ago, coco said:

I can't remember but i don't think so. I was jokingly calling for Jose to come back towards the end of Rafa, then next thing Jose being interviewed on TV in London, smirking when asked if he's returning to Chelsea, can't remember what he said, but remember being absolutely shocked when it was announced he was coming back.

A poster on another forum who had/has a source (who told us before the media AVB banishing Anelka and Alex amoung other things) told us in February it was happening.

Emotion aside it did kind of make sense appointing the poundland version of Mou to do the acclimatising the players to the tactics for him.

28 minutes ago, Chelsc96 said:

People put too much stock into getting a manager that 'has won something'.

I dearly hope you still feel the same way next May.

Must admit I'm massively surprised that there aren't a load of videos all over the club web site to show GP's first training session ... 

Well I remember the board backing Sexton and selling Osgood and Hudson, only to give Sexton the boot not long after .You can always rely on us to create chaos and bafflement  for us to scratch our heads over and to provide amusement for everyone else.

I also endured Danny Blanchflower for almost a season,  he was nice bloke too !

9 minutes ago, Argo said:

A poster on another forum who had/has a source (who told us before the media AVB banishing Anelka and Alex amoung other things) told us in February it was happening.

Yeah that rings a bell, maybe thats what we heard on here back then as well.

3 hours ago, HazardousChoice said:

Might be worse.

Going from Trossard to Pulisic and Ziyech is a downgrade.

Trossard 96 goals in 330 career games.

Pulisic 44 goals in 249 career games.

Potter might struggle to get a goal every 2 games out of our lot!

How is this a valid comparison at all.  Toussard is six years older than Pulisic, and a sizable percentage of his 96 career goals came playing in the second tier of Belgian football.  He did not start scoring in the top tier of the Belgian league until he was 23 (same age as Pulisic is now) and even then was scoring at rates similar to what Pulisic is  doing in the far more difficult EPL.    He arrived in the EPL when he was 25 and scored all of five goals on 31 appearances in all competitions.  In comparison, Public's first year in the EPL he was 20, and he scored 11 goals in all competitions (9 league) on 30 appearances.  I'm digressing here, but everyone on this forum complains about lack of output, but they fail to take age into account.  Pulisic's first year at Chelsea he outperformed Hazard, Salah, Stearling, Thieryy Henry and most other wingers I could find when they were twenty. To be fair, Hazard did have a breakout hear in France when he was 21, but his first year in the EPL at age 22, he scored same number of league goals that Pulisic did in his first EPL year, and only two more non-league goals than Pulisc.  Heck, when Drogba was 20, he was playing in the second tier of France, and scoring exactly zero goals.  The last two seasons have been injury plagued years, spent mostly in a system that does not favor a traditional winger.  If you don't think system matters, look at Henry's career.  When he was 22, he was playing for Juventus in a 3 back system where he was often asked to play wing-back.  (Sound familiar?)  At Juventus he scored all of 3 goals.  The next year he moved to Arsenal, where he played in a system that was better suited for his skill set, and he scored 26 goals in all competitions. Can Pulisic eventually become as good as these players?  Is batman a transvestite? Who knows.  Nobody on this forum does, that's for sure.   It may be he turns out like Alexander Pato, a guy whose graham cracker-like hamstrings destroyed his career.  He may recover and have a great career.  More likely, he ends up with good career numbers, better than Toussard, somewhere below the Hazards, Salahs, and Henrys of the world. It is just too early to tell.   

Leicester fans who watched Chilwell week in and out laughed at us spending £50m on him, fan opinions mean nothing.

Looking as his demeanor he does seem like an Ole Gunnar Southgate but we can't judge until we see his Chelsea team in action and also his affect on the clubs culture off the pitch as well.

2 hours ago, axman2526 said:

Since Glenn Hoddle is think only Rafa has received more negativity to his appointment as our manager than Potter, just.

I think he'll be fine, if he is given a chance and to be honest we have to all hope that this guy can develop something here that is sustainable rather than the plastic, pampered self absorbed caricature of a football club that we have been becoming over recent years.