13 hours ago, WhiteWall said:

Great, so don't big it all up as part of a grand scheme of getting the club back to an elite status.  Let's all accept that the vast number, if not all, are being purchased purely to farm out and move on for small amounts  or large in some cases, of profit that will add to the coffers. So in the same way that DD Fofana was purchased purely for potential gain with virtually no possibility of playing for Chelsea regularly, I get the same vibes about the majority of these signings now. Guiu, Kellyman, Wiley, none of these are Chelsea players. There are here purely to increase the profitability of the Company. So there is a project, and I understand it. Its not a Chelsea project because there is little, if any, sporting endeavour involved. Its a BlueCo project, along with other areas where they are trying to maximise profit and minimise loss on.

Santos has a lot of the raw materials that mean he could be a first team player for us. 

Conor Gallagher was at Swansea when he was Santos's age. Santos is further along for sure. 

If he doesn't hit our first team, then he can be sold, probably for a profit. 

Some of the players we sign are for farming sure, but that's business. And I think the people you are angry at for hyping these kids up are not actually the club. 

I'll wager Santos, amongst many of our signings in the past year or so, will never play for the first team in any meaningful capacity.

Disappointed we're not going to see him this year but this does look decent actually. Fair play Strasbourg

 

 

Cute video

Scored in a really good performance today. Ended in a 3-1 win.

He really should be in our squad if Lavia can't stay fit.

Edited August 25, 20241 yr by Luca Vialli

People who know about/watch the French League say that Santos has started like a house on fire at Strasbourg. Building on a very good finish to last season. Anyone able to confirm?

Maybe we have something real there?

 

10 hours ago, TheCeleryKing said:

People who know about/watch the French League say that Santos has started like a house on fire at Strasbourg. Building on a very good finish to last season. Anyone able to confirm?

Maybe we have something real there?

 

 

 

 

36 minutes ago, Ukraine Bolt said:

 

I love the phrase "so far this season"

It's been 2 games. 

I think he's great, but prefer to see a bit more data this full season

4 hours ago, bisright1 said:

I love the phrase "so far this season"

It's been 2 games. 

I think he's great, but prefer to see a bit more data this full season

2 games that any other player could have been better than him!

6 hours ago, bisright1 said:

I love the phrase "so far this season"

It's been 2 games. 

I think he's great, but prefer to see a bit more data this full season

Laurel and Hardy probably annoyed now the window has closed so they can’t sell him.

I doubt very much Santos was bought to sell on. He’s been given the opportunity to play every week and his development can now gather pace.

Hes the one who might be able to solve the Enzo Fernandez problem. Enzo struggles to fit our system whereas Santos looks like he could be the answer.

Early days for sure but I have huge faith in him to come back and play a significant role next season

Andrey Santos – 7

A standout performance from the Brazilian who scored once and could have had two. He started the move that saw him net RCSA’s first, breaking the lines before finishing the move off himself. He almost had a second but his header came off teammate Sow before finding the back of the net. Unfortunately for Strasbourg, Sow was in an offside position. However, despite his size, Santos has a knack of popping up in the right place in the box. 

6 hours ago, bisright1 said:

Andrey Santos – 7

A standout performance from the Brazilian who scored once and could have had two. He started the move that saw him net RCSA’s first, breaking the lines before finishing the move off himself. He almost had a second but his header came off teammate Sow before finding the back of the net. Unfortunately for Strasbourg, Sow was in an offside position. However, despite his size, Santos has a knack of popping up in the right place in the box. 

Frank.... is that you? Mk 2 of of SFL would be welcomed.

Needs to be integrated into the first team next season. He is another one they need to make space for in the squad. He offers goals which none of our midfielders have.

30 minutes ago, ducavis said:

Needs to be integrated into the first team next season. He is another one they need to make space for in the squad. He offers goals which none of our midfielders have.

Very true.

We have precisely zero goals from our midfielders and defenders in the 7 games so far this season !

He'll be sold for profit imo

Whisper it but he might be better than Enzo…

The model isn’t “designed to sell for profit”. That is a false narrative. It is designed so that those that don’t make it can be sold for profit, which is an entirely different principle. Targeting one or two big names, at an older profile and higher wages, has great risk. If you target the best 5 younger players at a lower PSR impact per year, then you are hoping one or two of them can be elite. 

That is why we brought in the Timberwolves guy in my opinion. He is a genius at manipulating soft caps like PSR and FFP. You don’t know which player is going to be the next Palmer, and which one is going to be the next (insert player that has not thrived on the first team). 
 

There will come a point, like with Man City, where we will have a much more settled first team and the need to both buy, and sell, will be reduced. We will then have younger competition challenging the established first team to keep them sharp or take their jobs. And we will probably target a specific immediate upgrade every now and then if the opportunity arises.

We had teams interested in Santos for VERY good money already. They were adamant about keeping. We brought in a group of super talented younger players, and he is a “keep”. The others are good enough that we will make (or not lose money) on them…. And the team gets stronger. Andre is developing so quickly from match to match, and right now he is planting the flag to make our sister team successful, and if Lavia continues to have injury issues we might see him recalled in January.

Well I have seen more from Santos than Enzo.

I didn't need to do this. 

( I'm also very much of the view that comparing a player in a mid table team in the 5th most competitive league to a player in our team is unfair)

58 minutes ago, bisright1 said:

I didn't need to do this. 

( I'm also very much of the view that comparing a player in a mid table team in the 5th most competitive league to a player in our team is unfair)

Yes you can't compare the PL to Strasbourg etc.

What is interesting is Enzo's duel stats. They seem way below what should be expected of a holding midfielder. He also goes to ground much to easily. 

I've been very down on Enzo I know but he doesn't seem to be settling and maybe we could sell if we could recover his fee.

1 hour ago, bisright1 said:

I didn't need to do this. 

( I'm also very much of the view that comparing a player in a mid table team in the 5th most competitive league to a player in our team is unfair)

Surprised about the low long pass accuracy of Enzo, I thought that he had a very good passing range skill, including long passes.

2 hours ago, bisright1 said:

I didn't need to do this. 

( I'm also very much of the view that comparing a player in a mid table team in the 5th most competitive league to a player in our team is unfair)

You wouldn't need to do that Squawka Comparison for Enzo vs Caicedo vs Lavia either 🙂 

23 hours ago, RMH said:

Surprised about the low long pass accuracy of Enzo, I thought that he had a very good passing range skill, including long passes.

I'm not surprised. My biggest criticism so far this season is what he is doing on the ball vs off it. 

In short. He needs to be doing far better. 

 

On 22/09/2024 at 17:47, ducavis said:

Needs to be integrated into the first team next season. He is another one they need to make space for in the squad. He offers goals which none of our midfielders have.

Chucky does.