46 minutes ago, Argo said:

I would actually consider it a red flag if players said anything else.

It's one thing fans taking a more realistic outlook but it's a slippery slope if players/managers start doing it, United for example have got so infested with the top 4 mentality Ten Hag has been talking that up as the aim before kick off.

Think it's the reason we didn't win the league in Jose mk2 season 1. Seemingly endless comments about how we weren't good enough to win. 

On 03/08/2023 at 18:30, bisright1 said:

Think it's the reason we didn't win the league in Jose mk2 season 1. Seemingly endless comments about how we weren't good enough to win. 

Either that or we struggled against team who park the beus

 

 

Now we see the real Enzo, What a baller 

 

 

 

Today was the first time I saw him play like he does for Argentina. This was the Enzo I was looking forward to seeing.

What a player. He could be a Chelsea legend in time. Would like to see 5-10 goals and assists this year minimum. 

The only signing where I basically said pay 100m pay it all he's worth it and yes he really is. Even though we didn't win, because of Enzo we were in the commanding position throughout the match which hasn't been the case in the prior years with Jorginho, Kante and so on.

I imagine once Poch starts playing a back 4 formation that it's then we'll see a lot of goals and assists coming from every angle.

Edited August 13, 20232 yr by Gol15

41 minutes ago, Scott Harris said:

Today was the first time I saw him play like he does for Argentina. This was the Enzo I was looking forward to seeing.

Hmm no. In the WC, enzo played very deep. 

With the Caicedo deal happening people have been saying Enzo isn't worth the money we paid for and this performance again shows the player we bought! He'll be even more dangerous with a DM beside him.

9 minutes ago, Bob stark said:

Hmm no. In the WC, enzo played very deep. 

That doesn't mean he just sat deep like he was doing under Potter and especially Lampard. He's much more involved in Argentina's build up play and attacking play.

I think we got more control of the game when he started coming more deeper.

I know he said he wants to play more further forward but this is where coaches need to save players from themselves, from a deeper position he can dictate the flow of games to a level very very very few can.

Best player in the team for me, fantastic player he is. 

Hope I'm not getting too far ahead of myself but I always feel confident when he gets on the ball, I haven't felt like that about a player since Hazard and Fabregas. 

1 hour ago, Scott Harris said:

Today was the first time I saw him play like he does for Argentina. This was the Enzo I was looking forward to seeing.

At this point, I think we should have paid more for him. It's what I keep saying about these player prices. No one really gives a sh*t as soon as the player starts producing on a world class level. Those price tags get forgotten pretty quickly. No one remembers how much VVD or Allisson cost Liverpool anymore (as opposed to Kepa's price tag with us). No one cares how much Madrid paid for Bellingham anymore and it's still early. No one cares what astronomical wages City are paying Haaland, he probably deserves more. I can go on and on. 

Enzo is an absolute top drawer player. When he gets paird with Caicedo, we'll see even more production from him. And this isn't a slight on Gallagher, btw, who was fantastic today. Caicedo just offers even more. Exciting times ahead for us. Enzo is doing justice to that No. 8.

53 minutes ago, Argo said:

I think we got more control of the game when he started coming more deeper.

I know he said he wants to play more further forward but this is where coaches need to save players from themselves, from a deeper position he can dictate the flow of games to a level very very very few can.

He's basically a Pirlo + Fabregas hybrid (with a sprinkle of Ramires) and will absolutely prove it with the right guidance. Seems like Poch is doing that for him so far.

Love his technical ability, love his vision, love his passing, love his fire. 

He's alright is our Enzo.

A fantastic footballer.

Sometimes you do get what you pay for...

Edited August 13, 20232 yr by 2211

Get Caicedo and let this guy have a more free role. Got the be the plan for sure 

World class .. this is what a proper midfielder looks like.. massive massive yesterday.. 

His control in tight areas and passing range is insane.

Marvelous player.

4 hours ago, I am a CPA said:

His control in tight areas and passing range is insane.

Marvelous player.

His passing range has always been obvious but i was left speechless by his control and dribbling ability, like you say. Had two men close him down and easily evaded them both multiple times. Huge player.

Yeah, he was pretty much unplayable in the second half. A few little drag-backs/tricks to completely drop his marker(s) in midfield. We just need to find that same level of composure in the final third. Such a shame Nkunku got injured. 

14 hours ago, KokeFran96 said:

 

 

Now we see the real Enzo, What a baller 

Can we get a condensed translated version, i think the North Stand will struggle with it as is.

Likely going to turn out to be one of the best signings of the last decades. If Poch manages to get this squad firing on all cylinders and Enzo manages to stay injury-free and productive in terms of goals and assists, he is likely going to be considered the best midfielder in football by many.

13 hours ago, Scott Harris said:

That doesn't mean he just sat deep like he was doing under Potter and especially Lampard. He's much more involved in Argentina's build up play and attacking play.

He was also effectively playing Messi's defensive role for him.