Is everyone starting to warm to the idea of Pochettino? Or are we just trying to convince ourselves now it seems inevitable?  I remember doing similar when Potter was signed, hopefully this time it works out better.

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Verbal agreement supposedly in place guys 🤝

He's apparently told his family he's accepted the job, as being reported his son will be part of his team that would be joining (he's a data analyst). 

Unlike the Nagelsmann and Enrique links this time it looks pretty concrete. I think this is probably the best appointment we could have made based on the current climate we find ourselves in.

We need a coach that:

Can develop youth✔️

Wants to play attacking football✔️

Can compete tactically with Pep/Klopp etc. ✔️

Has won trophies✔️

Managed big names✔️

Can work with a budget✔️

Gets on with the board✔️

Hungry to prove themselves✔️ 

High emotional intelligence✔️

Played at the highest level✔️

Pochettino meets the requirements, I'm really optimistic about this appointment provided no last minute hitches we've got a coupe on our hands. People seem to forget Madrid hold an interest in him too, Anceolotti staying is the best possible scenario for us and it seems this is the case. 

Fun fact under Pochettino, Harry Kane won the golden boot twice (back to back seasons). Pochettino knows how to get goals.

1 minute ago, LongtimerLurker said:

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Verbal agreement supposedly in place guys 🤝

He's apparently told his family he's accepted the job, as being reported his son will be part of his team that would be joining (he's a data analyst). 

Unlike the Nagelsmann and Enrique links this time it looks pretty concrete. I think this is probably the best appointment we could have made based on the current climate we find ourselves in.

We need a coach that:

Can develop youth✔️

Wants to play attacking football✔️

Can compete tactically with Pep/Klopp etc. ✔️

Has won trophies✔️

Managed big names✔️

Can work with a budget✔️

Gets on with the board✔️

Hungry to prove themselves✔️ 

High emotional intelligence✔️

Played at the highest level✔️

Pochettino meets the requirements, I'm really optimistic about this appointment provided no last minute hitches we've got a coupe on our hands. People seem to forget Madrid hold an interest in him too, Anceolotti staying is the best possible scenario for us and it seems this is the case. 

Fun fact under Pochettino, Harry Kane won the golden boot twice (back to back seasons). Pochettino knows how to get goals.

Let's hope he knows how to get Kane as well!

3 minutes ago, WhiteWall said:

Let's hope he knows how to get Kane as well!

I don't think Levy would sell to us, probably to TT and Bayern. I also think Oshimen will have a huge bidding war. For me the shrewd thing for us to do is sell Lukaku to Athleti for £40-50m and exercise our buy back option on Tammy.

I could see Pochettino doing something special with him, especially after a couple of seasons with our José.

He's quick, can finish and knows the league. Would be an ideal player for Nkunku and Havertz to play off. Not to mention Sterling, Mudyrk and Mount. Chelsea DNA so what's not to like? Remains to be seen what we'll do, but with Broja showing promising sings, I would love a Broja  Tammy Abraham strike force. 

Can't see Rom suiting a high pressing Pochettino team

6 hours ago, Ibby_786 said:

Pochettino not good enough.

so underwhelming

Can anyone actually provide an argument against Pochettino that doesn't result in either "He's not a winner" or "He's a Spurs man so it'll be toxic"? 

Both arguments just completely flawed. 

Just now, Sconnie Blue said:

Can anyone actually provide an argument against Pochettino that doesn't result in either "He's not a winner" or "He's a Spurs man so it'll be toxic"? 

Both arguments just completely flawed. 

I don't understand the negativity that seems to hang around our fanbase. I always believe we're going to be great next season. 

1 minute ago, bisright1 said:

I don't understand the negativity that seems to hang around our fanbase. I always believe we're going to be great next season. 

It just reeks of an agenda against Boehly and/or the club not getting their preferred manager. Some even wanting Conte or Mourinho back. Grown men wanting Mourinho back Jesus wept. 

Being as rational and open minded as possible, Pochettino presents the less risk out of everyone mentioned. 

9 minutes ago, bisright1 said:

I don't understand the negativity that seems to hang around our fanbase. I always believe we're going to be great next season. 

I understand people being pessimistic and not wanting to put their hopes high because of what happened this season but I honestly don't get the negativity and toxicity to the extent where people criticize every move the club does just for the sake of it.

In terms of the Spurs connection, it’s probably the best time for him to join us as we’re at a proper low point, no other obvious candidates out there….and basically we’re desperate. 

3 hours ago, DarkMata said:

But does that not mean if we keep him we've lose the full £50million? Might as well get some cash back and get rid rather than have him stinking up the dressing room.  Struggling to think who could afford him and at the same time he would be willing sign for though.  Not the top 2 Spanish sides, Serie A has no money, and probably not Bayern now Tuchels there.  PSG at a stretch or its Saudi Arabia. 

Yes it does. It all comes down to whether we can afford to take the full hit immediately or not. The same issue applies to players like Cucurella, Sterling and Koulibaly. Lets just say the upcoming transfer window is going to be an interesting one

My oh my....

 

Whoever comes in will need to trim the squad. A lot. 

 

Spurs under Pochettino were a great side, never got over the line, and he elevated some proper wasters. Rose, Dier... 

 

Hard to get exited though, we've been through the wringer

On 23/04/2023 at 21:57, ozboy said:

Ange's title in Japan was with the J1 league. Of course Australian football is hopeless. I personally think it would be a big step up for him but then so was Japan over Australia. So was Celtic over Japan.  Celtic is a big club, he already has more champions league experience than Potter when Potter was appointed. 

He wasn't expected to last a month a Celtic now he is the toast of the club. I have followed his career since he coached the Brisbane Roar. There the first thing he did was sack a number of older players (including world cup players who had had successful international careers) and brought in a bunch of younger players. Then they started scoring goals and playing exciting football that even someone like me (a Sydney platinum plus member) had to admire.

When we (Australia) won the Asian championship we did it with a very average team, although the comp was held in Australia. We only just won because South Korea had a good team and Japan are always competitive.

Pochettino has really not had that big a coaching record. He is like Potter in doing ok without winning. He may do very well with Chelsea. Who am I to say. I haven't met him or attended his training sessions. I don't really have a clue. Kompany may turn out to be a great manager but he clearly doesn't have any track record to speak of yet. He would be a complete risk. 

My point is that Ange has a very solid track record. He has achieved success (winning a competition) just about every time and over a decade or more. He has a very good managerial CV. If he doesn't go to Chelsea he will get many more offers.

Hi might be a good coach, the trouble is we don't know, winning the championship with Celtic is NOT an indication of being a good coach, I could coach Celtic to the Scottish title!  They have come up woefully short in the Champions League, Gerrard looked like a great coach when he coached in Scotland!  Scotland is a pointless league, those 2 are so far ahead of the other clubs in Scotland that its basically a 2 horse league.  The Scots have destroyed their own league because 90% of Scots support either one or the other to the detriment of their local clubs, at least Kompany has 'walked' a VERY competitive league.

3 hours ago, WhiteWall said:

Let's hope he knows how to get Kane as well!

Spur's best football were under Pochettino, he made Dele looked world class, and the the guy fall apart after Pochettino got the sack. He's the best we could get right now, I'm weary if Boehly stalls, we will miss out again. Sign him up, let him observe for the remaining games. I think it's not fair to throw a new manager in this mess now, of course the new manager will be judged as soon as he takes charge, there are no free trials at this level. At least give the new manager a pre-season to build something.

2 minutes ago, icecoolguy22 said:

Spur's best football were under Pochettino, he made Dele looked world class, and the the guy fall apart after Pochettino got the sack. He's the best we could get right now, I'm weary if Boehly stalls, we will miss out again. Sign him up, let him observe for the remaining games. I think it's not fair to throw a new manager in this mess now, of course the new manager will be judged as soon as he takes charge, there are no free trials at this level. At least give the new manager a pre-season to build something.

We all know that if Chelsea aren't in the top 3 10 games into next season 'some' fans are going to be calling for his head!!  If we appoint Pochettino then so be it.....he IS a good coach but FFS we must give him TIME!!  Who knows there is always a chance that he is a perfect fit and the team gets no injuries and things go well from the start but there is also the chance that every game we play we lose one of our 'best' players to serious injury and it MIGHT take a while for Pochettino to separate the wheat from the chaff, it might take a while for the team to settle into his way of playing.........we shall see but FFS we MUST give him TIME!!

3 hours ago, Droyman said:

Hi might be a good coach, the trouble is we don't know, winning the championship with Celtic is NOT an indication of being a good coach, I could coach Celtic to the Scottish title!  They have come up woefully short in the Champions League, Gerrard looked like a great coach when he coached in Scotland!  Scotland is a pointless league, those 2 are so far ahead of the other clubs in Scotland that its basically a 2 horse league.  The Scots have destroyed their own league because 90% of Scots support either one or the other to the detriment of their local clubs, at least Kompany has 'walked' a VERY competitive league.

Yeah but it’s not just Celtic who by the way did poorly in the season prior to his arrival. He has won everywhere. 
by the same token the ONLY place Pochettino won is France with psg where there aren’ even two competitive teams. 
I agree Kompany  has done exceptionally  well, but it’s only one season. You need, in my opinion, 3-5 successful seasons prior to managing  a top club. 
 

Also ange football is attractive. Lots of goals. It doesn’t matter I don’t expect anyone here to support an Aussie over a European. I really don’t. It’s just unrealistic. 

5 hours ago, Sconnie Blue said:

Can anyone actually provide an argument against Pochettino that doesn't result in either "He's not a winner" or "He's a Spurs man so it'll be toxic"? 

Both arguments just completely flawed. 

That's a perfectly valid argument. 

There are good coaches and there are winning coaches. There are many in the former category, of which Pochettino is undeniably one. However very few coaches ever taste the rareified air of actually winning trophies. Pochettino has failed do anything other than win a league by virtual default.

Pochettino's teams impress the social media crowd because they play great football and they're tactically interesting, but mentally his teams are weak. It isn't so much that his teams haven't won anything, but the meek manner of their exits that speak to a complacency and lack of winning mentality.

7 hours ago, Sconnie Blue said:

Can anyone actually provide an argument against Pochettino that doesn't result in either "He's not a winner" or "He's a Spurs man so it'll be toxic"? 

Both arguments just completely flawed. 

He was at Tottenham for ages and they won nothing. He couldn't handle PSG dressing room at all and completely failed there.

13 hours ago, Sconnie Blue said:

Pochettino demands high intensity football. Do we really want to make this same mistake again?

Hiding st who does not defend is very easy. This is not the problem under TT

2 hours ago, SydneyChelsea said:

Pochettino's teams impress the social media crowd because they play great football and they're tactically interesting, but mentally his teams are weak.

Are Conte and mou's teams weak mentally aswell? 

I’m ready to cast all my scepticism about the current set-up - and the state of football - aside and hope to be made a fool of. I like Pochettino. Think he did a terrific job with spurs - they punched well above their weight and came really close to winning stuff. Which of other people’s preferred “proven winners” would have won a premier league title with that Spurs side?
 

Ok - so Pochettino then went to manage a team that “should” have been winning stuff, but punched BELOW its weight. But PSG is a Mickey Mouse club - the summation of everything that’s wrong with the game today. It’s enough for me that it has that cretin Neymar in it. No team with Neymar in it ever wins stuff, as football is a team sport - not a stage for an individual to do some trick that goes viral. Brazil probably would have won the last two world cups if they didn’t include Neymar…. I mean, how the hell did Brazil lose to Croatia? 
 

Anyway. Back to Pochettino, if the deal is done, good luck to him and come on Chels! 

40 minutes ago, Bob stark said:

Hiding st who does not defend is very easy. This is not the problem under TT

I agree, but Lukaku's problem is not his defensive work-rate, it's his attacking movement and work-rate that is the issue. Lukaku says he hates playing as as target man but his refusal to move or play facing goal almost necessitates it. He wants to make the same play all the time - receive an early ball from defence, lay it off to a midfielder and run on to a return through pass.  At EPL level, where defenders are generally both fast and strong, he cannot consistently bully defences into giving him the time he needs to make that play. You can bet your last dollar that every single EPL video analyst identified the same pattern.

You can't hide a striker who won't attack. Timo Werner, for all his inability to finish, got into great positions and was a general threat. If Lukaku was working hard and making runs into space off the ball he would be a success but he just doesn't have the inclination.

1 hour ago, BluesMadLad said:

Are Conte and mou's teams weak mentally aswell? 

Not initially, because both are quite good at cultivating a "siege mentality" of sorts that units players in a common cause. However, this almost always ends spectactularly as the managers descend into paranoia and blaming everyone but themselves, and the players inevitably burn out.

Let's be honest. None of us can be sure that any manager on the market who we appoint can make this team look like a force again. 

Im happy with Pochettino but have no idea how he can turn a bunch of turds into gold. Kai has been awful under 3 managers. I don't see that changing with Pochettino. 

We need a huge fire sale this summer.