Need a coach that is likeable amonge players.

Poch was one of them, although we didn't give him a chance to show his best this season.

Maresca could well be a great manager but maybe more so for a team that can manage themselves.

This strict and straight to the point version has alienated alot of the team and his performance.

4 hours ago, bluetrooper said:

Jose is working with also rans in an also ran division. He's not even at the best club in Istanbul. He was great for us, both times, but his next move should probably be international football. 

My post wasn't meant as a 'let's go get Jose' suggestion. I know he's way past his prime now, we were discussing the 2004 version of Mourinho.

6 hours ago, Sunspear_88 said:

I still have faith in Maresca as I believe the problems at Chelsea are far less on him. However, we did have the chance to hire Luis Enrique or Hansi Flick, but we failed to do so. Nagelsman turned us down because he probably knew he wouldn't get the time, or be shown the patience from the fans. 

If I remember rightly he turned us down because he wanted overall control of the recruitment.  Wasn't that the spin we were fed at the time.

Who has he improved so far?

I would say Palmer, Madueke, Jackson, and Gusto were better last season.

Caicedo, Enzo, and Cucu have marginally improved that's about it. 

But most importantly the attack isn't better, and that's with the additions of Sancho and Neto who should be an improvement on Sterling right? But have they been? 

 

15 minutes ago, Victor90 said:

Who has he improved so far?

I would say Palmer, Madueke, Jackson, and Gusto were better last season.

Caicedo, Enzo, and Cucu have marginally improved that's about it. 

But most importantly the attack isn't better, and that's with the additions of Sancho and Neto who should be an improvement on Sterling right? But have they been? 

 

Enzo has improved?  

Caceido and Cucurella I'd agree. 

Enzo looks just as inadequate this season as he has since he joined us.

10 hours ago, dkw said:

He has 2 choices now, change he "philosophy" bo**ocks that blatantly doesn't work, or get sacked in the very near future.

Amazes me that coaches want to now basically coach individuality out of players, make them into robotic system players, football us atrocious to watch now 90% of the time because of it. 

I'm not convinced he's got it in him to change the system even if he wanted to. He knows one style and I've seen nothing to suggest he can adapt it. Even his subs are like-for-like 90% of the time.

3 minutes ago, loz said:

Enzo has improved?  

Caceido and Cucurella I'd agree. 

Enzo looks just as inadequate this season as he has since he joined us.

The standards are low, he had some glimpse in form earlier in the season, last season I can't remember him having a decent string of games, just the occasional good game every now and then. 

3 minutes ago, loz said:

Enzo has improved?  

Caceido and Cucurella I'd agree. 

Enzo looks just as inadequate this season as he has since he joined us.

Caicedo was sensational at the end of last season.

Cucurella is, in my opinion, a liability. But when you put him that far up the pitch he's unlikely to make mistakes we concede from quite as often as he would playing as a traditional left back.

D

Granted, player limitations and just generally going up against better opponents skew the data somewhat, but we certainly don’t belong in the ‘if it’s working, don’t fix it’ bracket of a Liverpool etc. Amorim is willing to die on this hill it seems.

 

Abysmal really. 

 

2 hours ago, cfr95 said:

I'm not convinced he's got it in him to change the system even if he wanted to. He knows one style and I've seen nothing to suggest he can adapt it. Even his subs are like-for-like 90% of the time.

Spot on. 

Fear not. As it worked so well for Graham Potter our esteemed ownership have decided to bring in former Wigan Warrior Willie Isa to a "senior role" to teach our players all about "leadership" and several other buzz words.

Clueless.

5 minutes ago, axman2526 said:

Fear not. As it worked so well for Graham Potter our esteemed ownership have decided to bring in former Wigan Warrior Willie Isa to a "senior role" to teach our players all about "leadership" and several other buzz words.

Clueless.

He's no Gilbert Enoka, that's for sure ... 🙂 

58 minutes ago, axman2526 said:

Fear not. As it worked so well for Graham Potter our esteemed ownership have decided to bring in former Wigan Warrior Willie Isa to a "senior role" to teach our players all about "leadership" and several other buzz words.

Clueless.

 

16 hours ago, abramovich said:

My post wasn't meant as a 'let's go get Jose' suggestion. I know he's way past his prime now, we were discussing the 2004 version of Mourinho.

if that's the case, he wouldnt have signed for a club with our ownership

On 23/11/2024 at 23:35, Liam said:

I'm very happy with Maresca. I think he's done a fine job so far. 

He's been clever with how he dealt with the ridicule heaped on the club, when he first joined, over the squad size.

He has at all times been very clear on how he will operate and he has been unfailingly true to his word. He backs himself and trusts his vision.

Our stryle of play has been crystallizing week on week. In today's game there were a number of occasions where we moved the ball from front to back as if it were a setpiece.

There seems to be a good spirit in the camp and the players look as if they are fully on board with "the project". 

As a Chelsea fan I think he has done more than enough to deserve our support.

 

 

Hi @Mod. Sorry to bother you. I think my account was hacked late November last year. Would you mind looking into that for me? Sorry to bother you. 

45 minutes ago, Liam said:

Hi @Mod. Sorry to bother you. I think my account was hacked late November last year. Would you mind looking into that for me? Sorry to bother you. 

Same @Mod someone hacked into my account back in September and posted Dewsbury-Hall was an upgrade on Gallagher, you wouldn't mind deleting it would you? 

17 hours ago, Term_X said:

D

Granted, player limitations and just generally going up against better opponents skew the data somewhat, but we certainly don’t belong in the ‘if it’s working, don’t fix it’ bracket of a Liverpool etc. Amorim is willing to die on this hill it seems.

Not that I don't agree with Maresca being stubborn, but we really can't take anything from that data when we genuinly only have one striker, a bunch of like for like supporting wingers, and no other CM/DM to replace Enzo or Caicedo. 

We can scream Felix/Nkunku all we want but we'd then be hypocrites. 

The annoying thing with modern coaches is to get the pro licence you have to set up all types of formations. Coaching against a certain formation and showing how you change or adapt to overcome your opponent.

The issue is if you’re transfixed with a favourite wether it suits your team or not.

On 09/02/2025 at 19:26, loz said:

Enzo has improved?  

Caceido and Cucurella I'd agree. 

Enzo looks just as inadequate this season as he has since he joined us.

I don't think he has improved Caicedo. Caicedo was already our 2nd best player in the 2nd half of last season, I just think he has carried on from where he left off.

Cucurella? maybe. But again, Cucurella under Pochettino immediately improved when he started playing the inverted full back role. I think in recent months he has been a bit up and down though because Maresca seems to want him all over the pitch instead of just moving into midfield to be an extra man like he was at the end of last season and start of this one. I think it's hurting us having our full back taking up attacking midfield positions. Cucurella even finds himself in the strikers position at times. It shouldn't be called an inverted fullback role under Maresca, it's more like a free roaming fullback role.

Maresca hasn’t improved a single player. The current players carried over the form from last season and the longer he has with the players the worst it gets.

You can see the regression on all the players.

To be honest, now look back at our last season, With that many injuries, Poch has done a pretty decent job, despite losing the cup final ( deserved the criticism) . We had a good run when everyone was fit, even for 24 hours we looked like challenging the title. As soon as Maresca told people to calm down, and a few players started to drop in form , we looked a completely different team worse off. The January window was a disaster as far as reinforcement, but then again Macresca need to get more out of the current bunch.

1 hour ago, El regreso said:

Maresca hasn’t improved a single player. The current players carried over the form from last season and the longer he has with the players the worst it gets.

You can see the regression on all the players.

At the start of the season he did, but the deeper into Maresca-ball we've fallen in to the worse the players have looked.

2 hours ago, Scott Harris said:

I don't think he has improved Caicedo. Caicedo was already our 2nd best player in the 2nd half of last season, I just think he has carried on from where he left off.

Cucurella? maybe. But again, Cucurella under Pochettino immediately improved when he started playing the inverted full back role. I think in recent months he has been a bit up and down though because Maresca seems to want him all over the pitch instead of just moving into midfield to be an extra man like he was at the end of last season and start of this one. I think it's hurting us having our full back taking up attacking midfield positions. Cucurella even finds himself in the strikers position at times. It shouldn't be called an inverted fullback role under Maresca, it's more like a free roaming fullback role.

'''like a free roaming full back" ....more like a dog fetching a stick when the owner throws it in all directions..

3 hours ago, timetowaste said:

At the start of the season he did, but the deeper into Maresca-ball we've fallen in to the worse the players have looked.

There were even times where Maresca was mixing things up and I was thinking Leicester fans were wrong about him. Like when we played Brighton, we were mostly counter attacking, it worked well. We did the same against Newcastle. We suddenly just completely stopped mixing it up in December though, and we have been falling apart ever since.

There is not one player who I could honestly say, hand on heart, looks better than they did last season.

I am all for giving Maresca his P45 now, but can't see it happening as this lot like a yes-man and seem quite happy to stumble our way to the end of the season, probably finishing about 9th with the odd scrappy win here & there and perhaps with the Conference League trophy.

It's a f**king shambles and for the first time I can remember, I find myself losing a lot of interest. That's not being a fair weather supporter, as I've supported CFC for 50+ years and been there through the sh*t times with piss-poor attendances and relegations etc. But the football currently is so dull and boring and I think I'm literally watching in the hope that Cole Palmer can produce another bit of sublime magic to lift things. Without him, we are absolutely dire and even he's struggling now.

Some might say, "get a grip - we're 4th in the league", but I find it all utterly depressing.

  

Edited February 11, 20251 yr by Nibs