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Torres - The "Groundhog Day" Thread

Torres: stay or go? 226 members have voted

  1. 1. Torres: stay or go?

    • Stay
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      34
    • Go
      84%
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I would say his workrate is alright- he just doesn't have it anymore. He's no longer a footballer. Talent gone, pace gone, touch gone, awareness all gone.

 

It summed it up when he ran on to the ball over the top yet miskicked the ball backwards.

 

Nope, completely wrong mate. His workrate isn't all right. Far from it. Workrate only has meaning if it is productive, if it is directed to the role it is meant to be achieving.

 

Example. I could go into work tomorrow and repaint all the doors and windows. Some colleagues might say; "Woah. he worked hard today. 6 hours non-stop to do all that painting"

 

Then another might point out: "So f**king what! That's not his f**king job! He is Head of Accounts! He was supposed to be paying all our wages today!"

Man Utd - Managers get time to shine, players get dropped if not performing (Rooney against Madrid).

 

Chelsea - Mangers get no time to shine (although it's still impossible to shine that turd named interim) and players who imitate a donkey get treated like a bloody thoroughbred racehorse.

 

Whoever said it's a mad world, get that man a pint.

I have never ever wanted to see the end of a season come to an end before. Torres and Rafa both need to go. If Torres is still here next season then we are in real trouble. Thankfully i think Torres has given up and will demand to leave. He has said he wanted to leave each summer since he joined us. Hopefully this will be the one where he gets his wish.

I have never ever wanted to see the end of a season come to an end before. Torres and Rafa both need to go. If Torres is still here next season then we are in real trouble. Thankfully i think Torres has given up and will demand to leave. He has said he wanted to leave each summer since he joined us. Hopefully this will be the one where he gets his wish.

 

It is a strange feeling being so eager for the off-season to come...but I too am in that boat....but if somehow we start the next season with both Rafa and Nando at the club, I may have to release myself into blissful oblivion.

IF that did happen then it would be heart breaking for me. I wouldnt stop being a fan of Chelsea but it would cross my mind to stop supporting them.

I dont think Rafa would take the job even if the board offered it to him now though. He knows that no matter what he does he will be forever hated at the bridge!

If someone ever got around making a compilation of all the time he looses the ball; miss controls the ball; passes into an opposition; doesn't make runs into the box; is flat-footed inside the box the video is probably going to be nearly as long as his goal droughts. 

Who was he trying to pass to?

Why not just try to toe poke it towards the goal at the very least?

I could have scored that and even I am not at my best. I'm finding the old form though. Getting close...

Have we ever had a striker who is so bad at doing the little things correct? I am not talking about scoring or going on 50 yard runs, just simple stuff like controlling the ball, moving into space, passing, holding up the ball? I have been a fan since the mid to late 80s, and in all my time i am not sure of anyone who was ever so bad at doing these little things. I would take Joe Allon and Paul Furlong over this guy at the moment.

I'm feeling rather nostalgic over the Torres thread, or is the correct word "sentimental", I'm not sure.

 

This thread is a shadow of its former self, or of its former incarnation, the "original" Torres thread.

 

Remember when we all disagreed, when arguments raged, when tempers were lost, when friendships formed over many years were broken beyond measure over an opinion expressed regarding our Fernando?

 

What's happened to all that?

 

Is there anyone, anywhere, that can present an argument .. ?

Not any more.

And i'm sure you remember i did support him for a long time.......  Probably too long in hindsight.

Last night was a tragedy, he was truly awful, Moses should have travelled at least !!! 

I think we have to be realistic and accept that Fernando Torres is finished as a 'Champions League' striker. He needs to move on, but who can afford him? Even if we look at mid-table clubs in Europe I doubt that anyone will pay £15m, so we're looking at offloading him on a free transfer or a long series of loans.

The next problem is his wages. Fernando is reportedly on £175,000 a week. Even if he offered to take a 50% pay cut, that's still £87,500 a week. Beyond what any mid-table side can afford without smashing their wage structure. Who's going to do that for a player that's been so woefully out of form for three years? He's hardly selling himself on the pitch, I'm now reduced to laughter every time I watch him play.

I can only see Atletico going for him, purely on sentimental grounds, but we'll probably have to stump up another £50m - £60m for Falcao to enable them to take Mr. Torres on. It's a big problem!

Edited by Huttsey

Hi guys :)

 

I'm a Liverpool fan and I just joined to say how absolutely shocking it is to watch Torres these days, honestly. Most people get a kick out of it, I'm not gonna lie and say I don't get a little bit of one but for the most part, it's actually kind of heartbreaking to see. When Torres first moved, I couldn't quite bare to watch Chelsea play for a long time because I knew he'd be there and I didn't want to see him masquerading around the pitch and celebrating in Chelsea blue when I was so used to seeing him in our red. He was a legend, a hero, a special, special player. The sort that doesn't come around very often, for any club. I notice a few in earlier pages trying to write off his previous successes. Now either you never watched Torres 2007-2010 or you have a poor understanding of what it takes to be a top striker. He was, is, one of the best strikers to have ever graced the Premier League and that's what makes this such a sad state of affairs. You can't discount his pace and movement and say 'without these he'd have been sh*t'.. well of course he would? It just so happens God gifted him with these two talents, as well as an awareness and composure in front of goal that is unheard of. His best attributes were at a world class level and that's what made him world class. I don't subscribe to the argument that Gerrard and Alonso are what made him what he is. This makes it sound like Fernando was incapable of doing anything by himself, he wasn't capable of individual moments of brilliance when in fact, he was. Quite regularly actually. For example, Champions League semi final 2008, at Anfield against Arsenal, 2nd leg.. 1-1, Torres scores the goal that shifts momentum our way, how you say? Simple, one touch, two touch, bang, top corner. 

 

For Torres this is the very thing that he has not been doing at Chelsea. The goals he HAS scored have been put on a plate for him (bar a couple) and I'm pretty sure he has still not ever scored a winner for Chelsea. For a 50m number 9 is so shocking words can't fathom it. I can't say I know what's happened to him as I'm not sure it's enough to say 'he's lost a yard' because he does nothing right anymore. I think he just doesn't care anymore. I think he thinks he's gone past the point of redemption and is just waiting for his chance to leave, hide away in obscurity and pretend his time at Chelsea didn't happen. It was clear after his last few months at Liverpool that Torres had an attitude problem.. or at least a mentality issue. He was not trying for us. He sulked on the pitch, he whined, he bitched, he moaned, he did everything but put a shift in. It's why I knew the second all the reports started (despite the lies he told us) that he was definitely off. He only tried in the big games i.e. Chelsea away. Part of it was Hodgson of course, Torres didn't believe in him for one second and that was true for most people associated with Liverpool at the time, money was tight, fans were in protest, everything at the club was in turmoil so he was seen as our smallest problem. He had excuses made for him at Liverpool.. "oh he's playing in a sh*t team" "Gerrard's off form" "Hodgson's playing style doesn't suit him" blah blah etc. None of that accounted for the scowl he had painted on his face 24/7. When Hodgson was sacked and Kenny appointed, Torres seemed to look a little bit lively again. But alas, it was all a bit late and a few weeks later he moved to Chelsea and no one could have foreseen that everything we had experienced in that last few months with him around would have been magnified 10 fold at Chelsea. 

 

On  a final point, when/if he does leave, where the hell is he going to go? How much of a hit are Chelsea willing to take on this one? I keep seeing reports of 15m etc.. that's mad? Who would pay that plus his sky high wages? 

Edited by werockin

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