I still think he's our best CB, Luiz is more likely to be dropped than Rudiger. 

3 hours ago, coco said:

And Rudiger wass terrible today, but i hope he can sharpen up quickly.

If you put Beckenbaer, Bobby Moore or Franco Baresi next to Luiz they would look crap. One man can't do two mens job.

Rudiger was the blame for the first goal, but got better as the game went on.

Truth is though - no-one at the back looked entirely comfortable with a flat back four.

 

41 minutes ago, just said:

If you put Beckenbaer, Bobby Moore or Franco Baresi next to Luiz they would look crap. One man can't do two mens job.

Agreed. Anyone asked to play next to Luiz in a two man defence is likely to look a bit average (unless your name is John Terry).  That is especially true when you play behind a non-existent midfield press and keep giving the ball away.

Maybe we did need a new centerbacks. Not sure any of our youths are ready to step up. 

Personally think rudiger may be better as a full back for us.

4 minutes ago, Spiller86 said:

 

Agreed. Anyone asked to play next to Luiz in a two man defence is likely to look a bit average (unless your name is John Terry).  That is especially true when you play behind a non-existent midfield press and keep giving the ball away.

It makes no difference what is happening in front of, behind or to the side with Luiz. He plays 90% of the time in a vacuum blissfully unaware of what is going on around him. His total focus is on the ball. Not who has crept 5 yards behind him. It is like he is hypnotized by the little white round thing. He defends like he's 10.

I am not that surprised he is still here because no other top side would want him, but I am stunned that it looks like he might be a regular starter for Sarri. It isn't going to end well if he plays in a flat back four.

 

58 minutes ago, just said:

If you put Beckenbaer, Bobby Moore or Franco Baresi next to Luiz they would look crap. One man can't do two mens job.

 

15 minutes ago, Spiller86 said:

 

Agreed. Anyone asked to play next to Luiz in a two man defence is likely to look a bit average (unless your name is John Terry).  That is especially true when you play behind a non-existent midfield press and keep giving the ball away.

Gary Cahill better than any and all of those lads he won the champions league alongside Luiz. ;)

Lol

 

Seriously David luiz is not a viable long term option there. Sarri does want to sign the young lad from juve and we appear to have failed him there.

I think Luiz's ability with the ball will be the key for him to be the starter. Christensen and Rudiger will switch beside him. Not worried the least. Rudiger could easily slot into Leftback IMO. 

 

4 minutes ago, evissy said:

I think Luiz's ability with the ball will be the key for him to be the starter. Christensen and Rudiger will switch beside him. Not worried the least. Rudiger could easily slot into Leftback IMO. 

 

10 minutes ago, just said:

It makes no difference what is happening in front of, behind or to the side with Luiz. He plays 90% of the time in a vacuum blissfully unaware of what is going on around him. His total focus is on the ball. Not who has crept 5 yards behind him. It is like he is hypnotized by the little white round thing. He defends like he's 10.

I am not that surprised he is still here because no other top side would want him, but I am stunned that it looks like he might be a regular starter for Sarri. It isn't going to end well if he plays in a flat back four.

 

Don't worry too much. Never takes managers long to cotton on to the fact that Luiz is all tip and no iceberg. 

I do feel sorry for he and Rudiger. Today was the worst case scenario for a defender against any team. Midfield and forwards giving the ball away consistently and making no effort to win it back.

BTW why wasn't Ampadu in the squad?

1 hour ago, just said:

If you put Beckenbaer, Bobby Moore or Franco Baresi next to Luiz they would look crap. One man can't do two mens job.

One of them is dead and one is his 70s, so I’m not really surprised to be honest. 

He really impresses me this dude, he covers the ground effortlessly, and he can defend, reminds me of Rio.

 JT could of prolonged his career with this whippet around him

Love this guy, but would maybe prefer him as a right back with ‘Dave’ switching over to the left. Alonso is too slow for my liking & doesn’t suit a flat back 4! (And I haven’t seen enough of Emerson). 

However, We’d probably sign a top class CB in January. 

Anyway, only my opinion but -

Rudi..... top player!!! 

Top player but we shouldn't waste him at RB like so many keep saying. His pace and passing in the middle is perfect for the high line we try to play. 

Have to say I was skeptical when we signed him but he's proven me wrong so far. His speed and passing is much better than I initially thought. 

Rudiger is our best CB atm followed by Christensen. Though Christensen didnfall off towards the end of the season but at the beginning he was amazing

 

Really, REALLY like the aggression and fight he brings to the team, and him being a seriously quality player just seals the deal. Hoping he becomes a mainstay of the side for many years to come. Also poses a good threat on set peices too.

In my opinion had one bad game against Roma away, but mostly excellent very strong, dominant in the air and has a lot of pace for a center back. Think he and Luiz could compliment each other, with obviously Cahill and Christensen there to jump in.

Can't see Cahill getting much game time. 4th choice now. Maybe even behind Ampadu.

Edited August 13, 20187 yr by Zeta

Lots of compliments being handed out for Rudi (rightly so!) and if he continues to be played at CB....

Who would you choose to partner him?

Luiz, Ampadu, Christensen or Cahill?! 

Just now, Chelsea J said:

Lots of compliments being handed out for Rudi (rightly so!) and if he continues to be played at CB....

Who would you choose to partner him?

Luiz, Ampadu, Christensen or Cahill?! 

Christensen. 

However, i think Luiz will partner him for most of the season as Sarri seems to be a fan. 

Remember when a few wrote him off last season, he's our best defender with all the right attributes to become a legend at the club

And he’s still only, what, 25?  Has to be one of the best signings we’ve ever made, considering the quality of the player and the price we paid for him.  Man, Roma really missed out on some Euros between Rüdi and Salah...

Edited August 13, 20187 yr by mwblue10

I really hope Ampadu gets game time in the cup matches as I see him and Rudiger being our Long term CB pairing possibly from the start of next season. 

We had an awful Summer last year in terms of signings but Rudiger was an absolute steal. Think he'll take it up a notch this season under Sarri, his strength, passing and speed are perfect for his tactics