14 minutes ago, Gol15 said:

 

So you first accept that YOU are an asset of Roman and thus of Putin just as the club is, but then you say Chelsea wasn’t targeted even though the full focus of sanctioning Chelsea is the CFC? You have 0 common sense here, you can’t have it both ways you idiot...

@Mod Is this guy allowed to constantly abuse people on here, calling people idiots over and over again because they disagree seems wrong. 

Edited March 10, 20224 yr by nonotnowjim

10 minutes ago, Gol15 said:

Then why fans can’t buy tickets anymore?

The fans can't buy tickets, because Romans assets have been frozen. Not as a "punishment" to Chelsea FC or our fans. 

Although frankly, it is probably for the best that you can't buy a ticket - wouldn't want you to escape that padded cell.....

9 minutes ago, Gol15 said:

Then why fans can’t buy tickets anymore?

I think if the club can find a way to guarantee that the proceeds of ticket sales do not go to Roman, or any of his companies, then perhaps they can sell tickets again. Even merchandise. But until those details are figured out, these elements of the business are frozen. I imagine these details are tricky to figure out because in effect you would have to redirect any income into a fund that is inaccessible to the current owning company. 

2 minutes ago, nonotnowjim said:

More incoherent nonsense... as always. 

I am very clear. 

These sanctions target Roman Abramovich, and 6 other oligarchs. 

They do not target me, you, anybody else on this forum or Chelsea fc

The fact that they impact Chelsea is undeniable - but that is irrelevant when it comes to intent.

Yoy have consistently said that you think Chelsea were targeted, and in doing so, you show your immaturity and lack of grasp about how The UK government sanctions regime works.

 

What is irrelevant to you isn’t for me, you’re just an asshole that doesn’t give two f**ks about the rest because you got a season ticket. Because of people like you being a yesman no matter what, the governments are doing whatever they want, you are the problem.

1 minute ago, Gol15 said:

What is irrelevant to you isn’t for me, you’re just an asshole that doesn’t give two f**ks about the rest because you got a season ticket. Because of people like you being a yesman no matter what, the governments are doing whatever they want, you are the problem.

Absolute terrible post get a grip.

1 minute ago, Gol15 said:

What is irrelevant to you isn’t for me, you’re just an asshole that doesn’t give two f**ks about the rest because you got a season ticket. Because of people like you being a yesman no matter what, the governments are doing whatever they want, you are the problem.

2x idiots and 1x asshole tonight...

Can this guy just get banned already?!

2 minutes ago, Gol15 said:

What is irrelevant to you isn’t for me, you’re just an asshole that doesn’t give two f**ks about the rest because you got a season ticket. Because of people like you being a yesman no matter what, the governments are doing whatever they want, you are the problem.

Again, your opinion does not outweigh facts.  

Well done our away fans today. Magnificent.

3 minutes ago, Gol15 said:

What is irrelevant to you isn’t for me, you’re just an asshole that doesn’t give two f**ks about the rest because you got a season ticket. Because of people like you being a yesman no matter what, the governments are doing whatever they want, you are the problem.

Gol, calm down, you're just going to get yourself banned. 

There is no point in us falling out over this, we already have everybody else in football looking to take us down.

Sweden sold steel to the Nazis during WWII, I don't really think they had a choice and I don't really think Abramovich has a choice either.

Likewise we sell arms to Saudi who are bombing and killing civilians including kids it is just politics that Putin is the current focus and not Yemen.

Leicester also have dodgy owners with links to funding paramilitaries in Thailand and more. 

Also Biden is using Bush and Cheney's people like Vicky Nuland in Ukraine to stir things up (been going on since 2014) and provoke Russia so once again we have a dirty war and the little people in the middle suffer.  Little difference for me from Iraq just a better cover story that the media are selling as they are frightened of selling Yemen. Just in Ukraine the downside is potentially much worse. 

 

 

Lets just try and chill a bit, tempers can be running high just now. Political threads always get riled up, but there is nothing we can do about this one, so it has to stay.

Simon Jordan with a piece in the Mail that explains how we could set things up for now, so that the club could sell tickets/merchandise again. Not to mention complete the sale to a new owner:

Simon Jordan explains how Chelsea CAN be sold to a new owner after Roman Abramovich is sanctioned | Daily Mail Online

I suspect the club is already working to put something like this in place.

 

@Gol15 my friend please calm down. 

Everyone is entitled to an opinion but please don't start calling someone else on here names like you did. You are better than that mate.

let's no fall out over this. Let's pull together.

We are all angry due to this situation, me included, so we all need to control our emotions.  You are better than that, Gol15.

1 hour ago, Sheva said:

His assets are getting frozen because he has links to the Russian invasion in Ukraine. There's links to him having money in steel manufacturing which is currently being used for tanks in the Russian Army that's killing civilians in Ukraine. It really is amazing to see what tribalism does to fans of football clubs. There's a war going on in europe and people in this thread are saying its AGAINST CHELSEA! No it's not, we're an asset of a oligarch linked to Putin.

If he sold the club then the money goes to him and maybe Russia. The government taking control of the sale of the club now makes sure the money does not go to Roman. As much as I am grateful for Roman and the success over the past 20 years. It's nothing to what the country of Ukraine is going through right now and he should be sanctioned.

The premier league needs to look at other clubs now so something like this doesn't happen again and I can only hope that the government protect us as an asset and a sale is not a fire sale and well thought out.

 

I'm sorry but that's just a load of bollocks. What makes his money dirty? Everyone and their mother are in business of selling arms, including the very government that just sanctioned Roman. And it won't make any difference in what's happening in Ukraine.

So he has investments in manufacturing of steel that's used in building Russian taks that are now used in Ukraine. If you dig that deep to find something wrong you can find plenty of English people and companies that profited massively over the years from dealing with Russian businessmen with ties to Kremlin. You want to sanction them too? Or once money gets from Russians into British or American hands it stops being blood money? Not to mention UK for years selling arms to the Saudis that they used to bomb the sh*t out of Yemen. This is one of the worst regimes on the planet but they had no problem acquiring Newcastle. Apparently US businessmen have no problem owning PL clubs either and yet I bet quite a few of them either supported Iraq invasion or even profited from it one way or the other. I lived in New York at the time and remember very well how it happened. That war was based on a lie, cost far more lives and caused much more destruction than the Ukraine campaign will. And Brits took part in it, too.

My point is, this is not about morality or doing what's right. It's about geopolitical battle between Russia and US with England backing their usual allies. The rest is just self serving propaganda and posturing.

Edited March 10, 20224 yr by abramovich

Will Roman walk away? I’m not so sure, he’s a billionaire and we’ve seen how ruthless he can be to be successful, for him to hand the club over to government so easily? I don’t think he's going to go down without fighting.

I wouldn’t be surprised if he takes the government to court.

Gol stop being a bellend mate cheers

6 minutes ago, dansubrosa said:

Will Roman walk away? I’m not so sure, he’s a billionaire and we’ve seen how ruthless he can be to be successful, for him to hand the club over to government so easily? I don’t think he's going to go down without fighting.

I wouldn’t be surprised if he takes the government to court.

At the moment he can still control the sale. Just has to get a license that shows he has no control of where the money goes or rather ensures it does not go to him.

4 minutes ago, Sharpy said:

Gol stop being a bellend mate cheers

Nice sentiment, next time do it without the insult we are trying to calm the situation down not rattle it up.

3 "serious" bidders have offers on the table.

https://weaintgotnohistory.sbnation.com/2022/3/10/22971665/at-least-three-serious-bidders-for-chelsea-to-push-ahead-with-process-reports

The Swiss (I hate Roman) and US proposal, the Ricketts family (owners of Chicago Cubs) and @Munkworth favorite euphemism, I mean, NYJ owner...

lovely eh, or bad options imo but I guess of you are in the fire the frying pan looks pretty nice.

@Valpo @USATim 

Can any of you offer any feedback on these potential owners? Or any of our other US fans.

Edited March 10, 20224 yr by axman2526

15 minutes ago, axman2526 said:

Can any of you offer any feedback on these potential owners? Or any of our other US fans.

Asking them is a waste of time. Not because the US fans are Americans, it's because the American owners may have different ambitions for Chelsea FC.

They can be fantastic owners for say, Chicago Cubs in the US but bad owners for a different club elsewhere.

Perfect example - The Kroenkes. The Kroenkes have invested a lot of their money towards the LA Rams and it has shown. New stadium for them and the LA Rams won the grand prize the Super Bowl this year. 

Now look at Arsenal with the same owners. 2 FA Cups in 10 years - no PL trophy for 20+ years.

Edited March 10, 20224 yr by Mana

4 minutes ago, Mana said:

Asking them is a waste of time. Not because the US fans are Americans, it's because the American owners may have different ambitions for Chelsea FC.

They can be fantastic owners for say, Chicago Cubs in the US but bad owners for a different club elsewhere.

Perfect example - The Kroenkes. The Kroenkes have invested a lot of their money towards the LA Rams and it has shown. New stadium for them and the LA Rams won the grand prize the Super Bowl this year. 

Now look at Arsenal with the same owners. 2 FA Cups in 10 years - no PL trophy for 20+ years.

Yeah fair point, guess we would not know until we see what they do.

28 minutes ago, abramovich said:

I'm sorry but that's just a load of bollocks. What makes his money dirty? Everyone and their mother are in business of selling arms, including the very government that just sanctioned Roman. And it won't make any difference in what's happening in Ukraine.

So he has investments in manufacturing of steel that's used in building Russian taks that are now used in Ukraine. If you dig that deep to find something wrong you can find plenty of English people and companies that profited massively over the years from dealing with Russian businessmen with ties to Kremlin. You want to sanction them too? Or once money gets from Russians into British or American hands it stops being blood money? Not to mention UK for years selling arms to the Saudis that they used to bomb the sh*t out of Yemen. This is one of the worst regimes on the planet but they had no problem acquiring Newcastle. Apparently US businessmen have no problem owning PL clubs either and yet I bet quite a few of them either supported Iraq invasion or even profited from it one way or the other. I lived in New York at the time and remember very well how it happened. That war was based on a lie, cost far more lives and caused much more destruction than the Ukraine campaign will. And Brits took part in it, too.

My point is, this is not about morality or doing what's right. It's about geopolitical battle between Russia and US with England backing their usual allies. The rest is just self serving propaganda and posturing.

I did say that the premier league needs to now take a stance on other clubs who will likely end up in the same situation as us. I don’t think it’s right we get sanctioned and other clubs get away with it. This should be an eye opener to the premier league and a lot of the blame falls at their feet.

Regarding war, I agree with you. At that level of government there’s all sort of posturing going on and it’s not about doing the right thing for them. I have no doubt there’s trails of dirty money leading to all different sports and businesses. I’m not that naive to think otherwise. 

However for me on a personal level it doesn’t sit comfortable. It is about doing the right thing. I am happy to throw the book at Putin and his oligarchs to attempt to stop the war. If that happens at the expense of us losing Roman as an owner. Then so be it.
 

 

 

 

 

 

 

2 hours ago, strider6004 said:

Leicester also have dodgy owners with links to funding paramilitaries in Thailand and more. 

Where’s the evidence for this?

Gotta love the British rags. Chelsea 81 days from folding, Chelsea facing financial Armageddon. Reveling in it to sell there cr@p pieces.

Morons.

24 minutes ago, axman2526 said:

Gotta love the British rags. Chelsea 81 days from folding, Chelsea facing financial Armageddon. Reveling in it to sell there cr@p pieces.

Morons.

It is a possibility if the gov are really inept about it, but yeah they are definitely trying to get the clicks in. It's unfortunate that we can't keep up to date without reading all the attack pieces.