Oh please, let him go to Italy!

1 hour ago, HazardousChoice said:

Oh no.

However will we replace Ziyechs 3 goals a season? 😞

It will probably result in Pulisic playing every game LOL ...

Set for a return to Cleaning Solution FC IF Antony joins United.

They wanted a loan, us and Hakim want a permanent deal. Talks ongoing.

3 minutes ago, axman2526 said:

Set for a return to Cleaning Solution FC IF Antony joins United.

They wanted a loan, us and Hakim want a permanent deal. Talks ongoing.

We better leech them dry. 

Antony is going to MU. This pretty much seals the deal for Ziyech to return to Ajax. We even might get a decent fee of him.

We also need to replace him. Zaha or Aubameyang...?

I still think he is quality, but just not suited to the Premier League. Selling him is probably the right decision, but only if we can bring somebody else in. I don't personally like the idea of Mount and Havertz playing left and right forward all season.

Sky are reporting Cleaning Solution FC are in advanced talks to bring him back, but only on loan. If that loan is not including a good size loan fee and a buy obligation I hope we tell them to go away.

23 hours ago, evissy said:

Antony is going to MU. This pretty much seals the deal for Ziyech to return to Ajax. We even might get a decent fee of him.

We also need to replace him. Zaha or Aubameyang...?

Both. We've lost 4 attacking players. That's a big worry. 

53 minutes ago, Edjmendy said:

Both. We've lost 4 attacking players. That's a big worry. 

Not when you factor in that said 4 players were distinctly average.

Just now, Nibs said:

Not when you factor in that said 4 players were distinctly average.

After what we have seen up front so far this season, I don't think they could have been any worse. Mount and Havertz are not forwards.

Just now, Scott Harris said:

After what we have seen up front so far this season, I don't think they could have been any worse. Mount and Havertz are not forwards.

True - but Mount and Havertz combined to win us the CL and they can live off that just like John Barnes did with his goal against Brazil!!

 

2 hours ago, axman2526 said:

Sky are reporting Cleaning Solution FC are in advanced talks to bring him back, but only on loan. If that loan is not including a good size loan fee and a buy obligation I hope we tell them to go away.

Ajax have banked £85m but want to take him on loan, and want us to pay a sizeable amount of his wages. We are getting mugged off in this window by everyone.

35 minutes ago, Nibs said:

Not when you factor in that said 4 players were distinctly average.

These same four attackers bar Lukaku won us the Champions League. With Lukaku we won the super cup and world cup! Why would you say they are distinctly average? Its crazy when  fans belittle players who have won us 3 trophies!!!! Lets see how many trophies we win with the new players first!

Ajax just got 80M, let's not go easy on them. Not the worst idea to let him go, until we start whinging about lack of creativity tomorrow night.

We won't miss him.  LIke most of our forwards, he is good for 3-4 good games a year.  His attitude has never appealed to me.

Ziyech is a top player but not exactly system coach type player. However he was able to change his football to Tuchel football pretty well. His pressing and recovering numbers sre very good. 

If Tuchel changed our system to 4-3-3 which he should do. Hakim would be among our best players.

Most of our squad is best at 4-3-3, why Tuchel doesn't play it is beyond me. 

16 hours ago, Edjmendy said:

These same four attackers bar Lukaku won us the Champions League. With Lukaku we won the super cup and world cup! Why would you say they are distinctly average? Its crazy when  fans belittle players who have won us 3 trophies!!!! Lets see how many trophies we win with the new players first!

I am not sure how that particularly correlates. We won the CL in 2012 with Ryan Bertand on left wing and Bosingwa at RB.

Clearly a change is required in our attacking approach. we lost 3-0 to Leeds and if we'd scored with every shot we had on target we still would have only got away with a draw.

The issue is not moving some of the atatcking players on its the fact that we have brought nobody in to replace them and that the only players in our squad that seem to have any worth to the outside world are the youngsters

41 minutes ago, evissy said:

Ziyech is a top player but not exactly system coach type player. However he was able to change his football to Tuchel football pretty well. His pressing and recovering numbers sre very good. 

If Tuchel changed our system to 4-3-3 which he should do. Hakim would be among our best players.

Most of our squad is best at 4-3-3, why Tuchel doesn't play it is beyond me. 

Valid points

56 minutes ago, evissy said:

Ziyech is a top player but not exactly system coach type player. However he was able to change his football to Tuchel football pretty well. His pressing and recovering numbers sre very good. 

If Tuchel changed our system to 4-3-3 which he should do. Hakim would be among our best players.

Most of our squad is best at 4-3-3, why Tuchel doesn't play it is beyond me. 

I would agree, unfortunately the exception to the "most of the squad" is currently the 2 centre halfs which I would guess accounts for the back 5 issue, hopefully Fofana can help resolve this and we can then push to a 433 

21 hours ago, Edjmendy said:

These same four attackers bar Lukaku won us the Champions League. With Lukaku we won the super cup and world cup! Why would you say they are distinctly average? Its crazy when  fans belittle players who have won us 3 trophies!!!! Lets see how many trophies we win with the new players first!

The four who have been offloaded are Lukaku, CHO, Ziyech and Werner. Only Werner actually started in the CL final and none of these players made much of an impact in a Chelsea shirt so yes, I would stand by my view that they were (and still are) distinctly average.

I honestly think last night rivalled Bakayoko v Watford for the worst ever cameo by a Chelsea player.

Just now, RIP Mourinho said:

I honestly think last night rivalled Bakayoko v Watford for the worst ever cameo by a Chelsea player.

Ha. I said this in a group chat to my family last night as well. Gave the ball away everytime, in a really good crossing position and shanked it for a goal kick, twatted two free kicks straight into the wall. Lost the ball when he tried to dribble. Was a complete disaster for him from the minute he stepped onto the pitch. 

16 minutes ago, drjonesy1994 said:

Ha. I said this in a group chat to my family last night as well. Gave the ball away everytime, in a really good crossing position and shanked it for a goal kick, twatted two free kicks straight into the wall. Lost the ball when he tried to dribble. Was a complete disaster for him from the minute he stepped onto the pitch. 

Been that way for a while, don't know why Tuchel persists. 

Don't forget catching the ball for throw in whilst still in play ..,total kn*b , needs gone

Expecting him and Pulisic to score 20-30 each this season now that they aren't being stifled by Tuchel's negative tactics, can't wait