On 03/10/2023 at 13:02, Drogba1 said:

EBL called Ange's success at Spurs and Potter to fail at Chelsea way before most people, they're a very good account

They've also made some pretty big blunders this season dus far.

Off the top of my head Havertz, Liverpool, United, Ten Hag, Onana, Emery are topics they've got totally wrong.

10 hours ago, Sexyfootball said:

Also quite incredible how a team with so many players that people have wanted us to sign over the years was completely destroyed by Newcastle last night.

Donnarumma, Hakimi, Skriniar, Hernandez, Ugarte, Dembele, Ramos ...  and that's without even mentioning Mbappé LOL

We've dodged the whole clip 🙂 

I think most of these players are fine, I would never have taken Dembele or Skriniar though. The problem is the league they play in. When they're playing against rubbish so often, they can't adapt to the sudden change in quality.

14 hours ago, Sexyfootball said:

Also quite incredible how a team with so many players that people have wanted us to sign over the years was completely destroyed by Newcastle last night.

Donnarumma, Hakimi, Skriniar, Hernandez, Ugarte, Dembele, Ramos ...  and that's without even mentioning Mbappé LOL

We've dodged the whole clip 🙂 

It's not just us with @Whats_The_Mata? though. All clubs have "supporters" like these SF.

If you go on the PSG fan forums you will see a poster called @Quel-est-le-Problème. He only pops up whenever they suffer a defeat and is continually berating the Emir of Qatar as the worst owner in World football, saying he has spent multiple billions via the Qatar Sports Investment ownership vehicle, and yet still hasn't brought any "top class young talents with high ceilings" like Fernandez, Chukwumeka and Caicedo.

His post after the Newcastle thrashing was more of the same 

"Nous ne gagnerons jamais la Ligue des champions. Notre propriétaire est un branleur".

15 hours ago, Argo said:

They've also made some pretty big blunders this season dus far.

Off the top of my head Havertz, Liverpool, United, Ten Hag, Onana, Emery are topics they've got totally wrong.

I had a quick look at a few of their articles, my god what a load of utter tosh. Its just cliches, "in" phrases and basically bollocks all written in a fashion to pull in a certain type of modern football fan, the type that just throws out these phrases, terms and nonsense to show how amazingly they get football. Its so tiring.

17 hours ago, Sconnie Blue said:

PSG basically also have a new team as well. 6 or 7 new players in the XI. 

Yes, and lining up in a bizarre 4-2-4 against Newcastle, with their strong midfield, made life more difficult than it needed to be. Completely overrun.

2 hours ago, dkw said:

I had a quick look at a few of their articles, my god what a load of utter tosh. Its just cliches, "in" phrases and basically bollocks all written in a fashion to pull in a certain type of modern football fan, the type that just throws out these phrases, terms and nonsense to show how amazingly they get football. Its so tiring.

This is the kind of article that a lot of fans like this days though. Sadly it project the wrong picture of football. 

What they do is pointing out structural problem in games. Some of them are crucial and some of them are just irrelevant. They are not that difficult to spot though. 

Now finding solution to that problem is the real key and it is far more difficult than just say do this or that. 

Trust the process it will be slow there certainly will be more bumps in the road but Poch is slowly moulding a group of strangers into a Team.

1 hour ago, El regreso said:

So glad am not bothering to watch this sh*t show

 

3 minutes ago, El regreso said:

Trust the process it will be slow there certainly will be more bumps in the road but Poch is slowly moulding a group of strangers into a Team.

😅 yeah you definitely showed how much your trust the process today...

Just now, dkw said:

 

😅 yeah you definitely showed how much your trust the process today...

🤣🤣All part of the healing process 

Edited October 7, 20232 yr by El regreso

8 games in, 21% of the season - my total subjective grading is a C. 

A team riddled with injuries quickly took a step back after an encouraging preseason, losing games we should have been winning. Saying that, it’s nice to put 3 wins together and see improvement in many players. The injury room is also down to 7 now - amazing for us. We need to kick on now - actually excited the next run of games are all teams above us. We need to show that we can compete, start beating teams around or above us, and gain points to put ourselves in a competitive position where we belong. 

Was watching Brighton play .. they were fckin extremely lucky last season.. this is suicidal football ..

I wouldn’t want Poch to play like that… complete madness.. 

Edited October 8, 20232 yr by Jangz

5 hours ago, Jangz said:

Was watching Brighton play .. they were fckin extremely lucky last season.. this is suicidal football ..

I wouldn’t want Poch to play like that… complete madness.. 

Considering Liverpool were outplaying Tottenham with 9 men, I'd argue Brighton played really well

 

Liverpool were also the first ever side to have more possession and XG against Brighton at the Amex since De Zerbi took over a year ago, which pretty much highlights how well he's done.

Long two weeks for him to figure out how to beat a very, very good Arsenal team. Needs to get everything spot on, and we need a win against a top side badly.

Started to seeing the dividends of the work Poch and the team put in. The passing and movement are faster, players started to find each other more around the box. It helps massively when key players step up. Of course it's only Norwich, but at least something to build and improve on when we heading towards a tougher run

10 hours ago, Drogba1 said:

Considering Liverpool were outplaying Tottenham with 9 men, I'd argue Brighton played really well

 

Liverpool were also the first ever side to have more possession and XG against Brighton at the Amex since De Zerbi took over a year ago, which pretty much highlights how well he's done.

As brighton you can play so loose like that.. they also conceded 53 goals last season.. taking so many risks. teams at the top end like us need to play attacking football like Brighton while balancing defense like an Athletico madrid..

 

i've watched this 50 times

4 hours ago, azpi28 said:

 

i've watched this 50 times

We need to see displays, goals and, most importantly, results, flow against PL quality opposition.

We scored more goals against Burnley and Luton than we did Fulham, however Fulham are much better side with mostly PL quality players imo.

Luton, Sheff United and Burnley have to be the worst trio of promoted clubs to ever come up to the PL, they are all hopeless and don't have one single player between them good enough for the top flight.

Fulham do, and we controlled them for almost the whole game. It was a beautiful display and now I want to see us play like this, and get results, against the likes of Arsenal, Brentford, Brighton and Spurs. Sides with PL quality players and good managers.

I want to see the calmness, that teamwork and control deliver results against average, good, very good and top sides. Then we can say that Pochettino is getting his ideas across, the players are buying in and developing well as a cohesive unit and individually.

We finally had a good run of results. Hope we can do the same against the big boys. The potential is there 

I think Poch is doing a good job so far. In almost every game we've dropped points we have been the better team in, so it's not like we're playing like a relegation side. 

It's also important to note how this is a completely brand new team that's playing together, the starting 11 that we've mostly played with have never played a professional game together, hell some of them have barely even played professionally. Not to mention that injuries that have definitely impacted our gameplan and quality on the pitch. I have some criticism with Poch's gameplan for sure but considering all the factors I believe he's done a good job.

Just keep up the good performances and the results will come, we keep opening up teams and working hard on the pitch we will start winning more games. Less of that first half vs Burnley, and more of the 2nd. 

15 hours ago, axman2526 said:

We need to see displays, goals and, most importantly, results, flow against PL quality opposition.

We scored more goals against Burnley and Luton than we did Fulham, however Fulham are much better side with mostly PL quality players imo.

Luton, Sheff United and Burnley have to be the worst trio of promoted clubs to ever come up to the PL, they are all hopeless and don't have one single player between them good enough for the top flight.

Fulham do, and we controlled them for almost the whole game. It was a beautiful display and now I want to see us play like this, and get results, against the likes of Arsenal, Brentford, Brighton and Spurs. Sides with PL quality players and good managers.

I want to see the calmness, that teamwork and control deliver results against average, good, very good and top sides. Then we can say that Pochettino is getting his ideas across, the players are buying in and developing well as a cohesive unit and individually.

And I’d like to see some calmness in the supporters if we loose to Arsenal, etc I’d love the doom brigade to stay as quiet and calm as they’ve been after these two weeks. I’d love them to understand that this is, by no means, a one week/month/season (even) project and try to get behind the team and club. But I know that that will never happen and, as soon as we loose against that north London sh*te, they’ll be out again.

35 minutes ago, RMH said:

And I’d like to see some calmness in the supporters if we loose to Arsenal, etc I’d love the doom brigade to stay as quiet and calm as they’ve been after these two weeks. I’d love them to understand that this is, by no means, a one week/month/season (even) project and try to get behind the team and club. But I know that that will never happen and, as soon as we loose against that north London sh*te, they’ll be out again.

Spot on,

I think most of our fans have been fair to Poch and have understood he's got a difficult job on his hands and sacking him gets us nowhere, so they've just gone after the board. What I can't stand though is how after one bad game every player we have is sh*t, overrated, flop, dud, you name it. 

Enzo is the best thing since sliced bread after a win, when we lose he's an overrated fraud. 

39 minutes ago, RMH said:

And I’d like to see some calmness in the supporters if we loose to Arsenal, etc I’d love the doom brigade to stay as quiet and calm as they’ve been after these two weeks. I’d love them to understand that this is, by no means, a one week/month/season (even) project and try to get behind the team and club. But I know that that will never happen and, as soon as we loose against that north London sh*te, they’ll be out again.

Fair point, though losing at home to either Arsenal or Spurs usually sees the team and manager booed off the pitch, won't be special to this group 

Expectations need to be managed though. We won our last two matches but let's be real, these are games we should be winning. What can be said is that bar a few hiccups, we won those games very comfortably. 

This next tough run will surely have ups and downs, maybe moreso the latter. 

14 hours ago, Sconnie Blue said:

Expectations need to be managed though. We won our last two matches but let's be real, these are games we should be winning. What can be said is that bar a few hiccups, we won those games very comfortably. 

This next tough run will surely have ups and downs, maybe moreso the latter. 

I wouldn’t be surprised Chelsea being Chelsea we win these so called “hard” games.

On 11/10/2023 at 08:11, Victor90 said:

I think Poch is doing a good job so far. In almost every game we've dropped points we have been the better team in, so it's not like we're playing like a relegation side. 

It's also important to note how this is a completely brand new team that's playing together, the starting 11 that we've mostly played with have never played a professional game together, hell some of them have barely even played professionally. Not to mention that injuries that have definitely impacted our gameplan and quality on the pitch. I have some criticism with Poch's gameplan for sure but considering all the factors I believe he's done a good job.

Just keep up the good performances and the results will come, we keep opening up teams and working hard on the pitch we will start winning more games. Less of that first half vs Burnley, and more of the 2nd. 

I wish people would give him that grace. One of the biggest criticisms of Potter was that even if its a "process" there should be signs of improvement when we play bad. The team has shown improvements both offensively and defensively even in our losses so Poch deserves time for the improvements to continue to progress.