28 minutes ago, Werner said:

The PL only needs one bad guy … now it's the russian

Did someone say "Bad Guy"?

"Bad times don't last, but bad guys do"

Rest in power RR.

4 hours ago, Mana said:

For me it’s Saudi Media group. The owner is a Chelsea fan, and has promised to expand the Bridge and improve the team. They have the money and we don’t have to worry about selling our big star players to save money.

The only thing that concerns me is if the PL had to examine them…how long? We can’t drag it for too long.

The worst one will be the US-Swiss bid with the Spuds fan. That is basically the end of Chelsea Football Club and the ambition to win anything if they win. And we will have to experience even more banter by the Spuds fans.

Take it from a US citizen, you do not want that guy running the club. I said 'no thanks' out loud when I read he was interested in buying. 

Is there any list of these "200 bidders"? 

Obviously some of them will be trying to keep quiet, but these things do tend to leak.

 

46 minutes ago, TheChelseaBlues said:

Take it from a US citizen, you do not want that guy running the club. I said 'no thanks' out loud when I read he was interested in buying. 

You mean Todd Boehly? 

1 hour ago, axman2526 said:

You mean Todd Boehly? 

If the club was told it could only accept bids from the US, I'd take Boehly ahead of the Ricketts family and Woody Johnson based on what I've read.

In saying that, the bid led by Boehly has some promising aspects to it such as this so-called "winning" mentality he demands but Wyss and Goldstein (a Spurs fan) make me nervous.

Reading that the Lille game is in doubt following EU sanctions.

French government could really screw us by failing to allow the game, meaning Lille get a 3v0 win

3 hours ago, TokyoBlue said:

Is there any list of these "200 bidders"? 

Obviously some of them will be trying to keep quiet, but these things do tend to leak.

 

I’m 192 of them. 

52 minutes ago, nonotnowjim said:

Reading that the Lille game is in doubt following EU sanctions.

French government could really screw us by failing to allow the game, meaning Lille get a 3v0 win

If they do it you can question why they are in sports in the first place. I really think Lille players and manager want to beat us on pitch and not in the cabinet...if that ends up happening I won't lose sleep over it. 

6 hours ago, dansubrosa said:

Government clearly have enough evidence to sanction Roman, and now the EU have joined in, as much as I like Roman, he’s not the squeakiest cleanest of them all. If I were you, I wouldn’t be making such bold clams like that, but rather question why aren’t we allowed to support our team? Fair enough if Roman is guilty but he’s an owner, he’s not Chelsea FC. What have the fans done? What about the catering staff? Or the merchandise staff? Even the door/stairs men? What about us? There’s so many people associated with Chelsea and the team bring so much joy to our lives, and bunch of c*nts are happy to take it all away from us so they’d look good on the rags. F*ck them.

Are you sure they really do? He has been investigated several times by the SFO & the Foreign Office and nothing came up. I find the whole majority shareholding at Evraz a bit cynical, he isn’t involved in the daily running of the company. You also wonder why they haven’t gone after the pension funds & investment firms who own a large chunk of the shares also. 

They are now arguing the Club is still being managed by those close to Roman Abramovich, leading to friction in discussions with the government over how the team can operate. I just get the feeling the government want to see the club go into administration, and would see that as a win.

45 minutes ago, ducavis said:

Are you sure they really do? He has been investigated several times by the SFO & the Foreign Office and nothing came up. I find the whole majority shareholding at Evraz a bit cynical, he isn’t involved in the daily running of the company. You also wonder why they haven’t gone after the pension funds & investment firms who own a large chunk of the shares also. 

They are now arguing the Club is still being managed by those close to Roman Abramovich, leading to friction in discussions with the government over how the team can operate. I just get the feeling the government want to see the club go into administration, and would see that as a win.

I don’t mean to preach to you but you are only going to wind yourself up more and more if you waste any of your emotions trying to rationalise the imposition of sanctions against RA . They aren’t going away nor in reality can any of us be at all surprised that others will see it completely differently.

RA may have done some very good things for the community here in England particularly those of Jewish heritage but you really shouldn’t look further than the influence he clearly had in his homeland.

As for the club still being managed by those close to RA again isn’t that fact ?
 

Look at this time we are just going to have to suck it up and play out the games as the crop up. I personally believe that the PL will have got the message that clearly was put out there yesterday when we requested that FA cup game to be closed doors. If we are saying opposition fans ensure competition integrity then the PL, UEFA ( if we get past tonight ) will certainly be arguing from the same angle.
 

I was a bit surprised just how naive some of the commentators and journalists have been because we all knew that the game wasn’t going to be played behind closed doors Chelsea’s hierarchy almost certainly would have known that.

If I were a betting man I would put money on tickets being sold going forward and as to what happens to the money we’ll it really isn’t beyond anyone with an ounce of common sense to set up a bank account into which proceeds can be directed which is totally independent of the clubs coffers and the destination of those proceeds determined once the sale goes through.

Just now, terraloon said:

I don’t mean to preach to you but you are only going to wind yourself up more and more if you waste any of your emotions trying to rationalise the imposition of sanctions against RA . They aren’t going away nor in reality can any of us be at all surprised that others will see it completely differently.

RA may have done some very good things for the community here in England particularly those of Jewish heritage but you really shouldn’t look further than the influence he clearly had in his homeland.

As for the club still being managed by those close to RA again isn’t that fact ?
 

Look at this time we are just going to have to suck it up and play out the games as the crop up. I personally believe that the PL will have got the message that clearly was put out there yesterday when we requested that FA cup game to be closed doors. If we are saying opposition fans ensure competition integrity then the PL, UEFA ( if we get past tonight ) will certainly be arguing from the same angle.
 

I was a bit surprised just how naive some of the commentators and journalists have been because we all knew that the game wasn’t going to be played behind closed doors Chelsea’s hierarchy almost certainly would have known that.

If I were a betting man I would put money on tickets being sold going forward and as to what happens to the money we’ll it really isn’t beyond anyone with an ounce of common sense to set up a bank account into which proceeds can be directed which is totally independent of the clubs coffers and the destination of those proceeds determined once the sale goes through.

 

Pretty sure the Saudi deal is dead in the water I only caught a bit of it but on 5live some Tory tosser saying the Newcastle deal got under the wire and things have tightened up since. Johnson can go cap in hand for oil but I doubt he'll let the Saudi's have another football club and the statement that the government won't interfere about who's bid is successful is laughable Candy being a Tory donor has to be odds on.

One of Chelsea owner Roman Abramovich's superyachts, Solaris, is heading for Turkey. Muhsin Bayrak claims to have met Abramovich, last week, to discuss buying Chelsea. A spokesperson for Mr Bayrak says another meeting was planned later this week. (Sky News) #CFC

43 minutes ago, bluehaze said:

Pretty sure the Saudi deal is dead in the water I only caught a bit of it but on 5live some Tory tosser saying the Newcastle deal got under the wire and things have tightened up since. Johnson can go cap in hand for oil but I doubt he'll let the Saudi's have another football club and the statement that the government won't interfere about who's bid is successful is laughable Candy being a Tory donor has to be odds on.

Yeah there would be so much scrutiny on that deal if it went through, so many questions. It would be embarrassing for the government as well that they’ve let another Saudi group in. 

It's crazy how rival fans are now preaching that Carragher monologue and don't even understand the issue with it. Because it's certainly not about whether the content of his statement was accurate or not.

Has Chelsea been taking advantage of other clubs? Maybe, I don't know... They've bought some of the best players of other clubs, who themselves were willing to join Chelsea, and paid the clubs a lot of money for it. If you buy from a PL club you simultaneously weaken the competition, then again the player tends to be double the price of a player of similar quality from abroad. Everyone can decide for themselves if there's exploitation involved and from which side, any case can be made I guess.

All I know is that every big club is doing this. Naturally, every big club is trying to achieve the best for themselves and that includes buying top players, particularly if the opportunity is favourable due to some external circumstances. Chelsea may have been "the" big money club for a bit, yet over the last decade our net spending is actually far below the "traditional elite". Nonetheless, I wouldn't waste a second on arguing about which English top 6 club is the most "exploitative", because that's completely pointless.

That's why Carragher's statement is actually quite bizarre: Would I be outraged at ManUtd if they, in a scenario in which everything at Chelsea goes completely t*ts up, tried everything to sign Tuchel? Not for one second. I would be slightly surprised by Tuchel's judgement if he agreed, but that's besides the point. ManUtd have done nothing wrong with regards to our current situation (it's not like they expressed any claim on Tuchel), and honestly, I can't see how they could be doing anything wrong in the future. If the outcome of this situation is the complete disintegration of the club, our top assets will obviously end up with some other big clubs, what else?

And that's where we get to the real problem with Carragher's suggestions: it's not about ManUtd, it's about Mr Carragher himself. A sky sports pundit, supposedly hired to contribute insightful sports commentary rather than partisan advertisement. Instead, at the slightest suggestion, he's absolutely drooling over the idea of the complete and football-unrelated dissolution of a 117 year old club with millions of fans around the country and the world. That is the problem, and nothing he said on Sunday remotely adressed that. 

I say f**k Carragher,f**k the government and f**k all the delinquent's who want our team gone.

4 hours ago, nonotnowjim said:

Reading that the Lille game is in doubt following EU sanctions.

French government could really screw us by failing to allow the game, meaning Lille get a 3v0 win

How would that work? Would be a weird scenario but then anything is possible these days

 

5 hours ago, nonotnowjim said:

Reading that the Lille game is in doubt following EU sanctions.

French government could really screw us by failing to allow the game, meaning Lille get a 3v0 win

Sky says it goes ahead.

Mind you, could be wrong as they also have the wrong score in their sub-heading!

 

 

How does the buying/selling process go ? Who is vetting/deciding who the winner will be? And what will that be based on. I believe RA had some stipulations, does he still factor in this? And where does the money go?

5 hours ago, nonotnowjim said:

Reading that the Lille game is in doubt following EU sanctions.

French government could really screw us by failing to allow the game, meaning Lille get a 3v0 win

I know Sky confirmed that the game is going ahead already, but if there was no confirmation, it wouldn't make any bloody sense.

At that point, you'll be 100% attacking Chelsea FC and the fans, 0% on Roman. Why? The UK has already sanctioned Roman, he's not getting a single penny earned from the club. So why stop Chelsea from going to Lille?

2 hours ago, bluehaze said:

Pretty sure the Saudi deal is dead in the water I only caught a bit of it but on 5live some Tory tosser saying the Newcastle deal got under the wire and things have tightened up since. Johnson can go cap in hand for oil but I doubt he'll let the Saudi's have another football club and the statement that the government won't interfere about who's bid is successful is laughable Candy being a Tory donor has to be odds on.

Things haven't tightened up since. There hasn't been new rules/laws in place to stop Saudi Media owning Chelsea unless they have ties with the Newcastle owners.

Tories can lie you know, we have seen this many times before - including them saying they had sanctioned Roman before when they didn't. And I can tell you now (if that was a Tory MP speaking), that is a lie.

Edited March 16, 20224 yr by Mana

#Chelsea (1/2): It is my understanding that the Swiss-American consortium is (surprisingly) still looking for partners. Team NOT complete as previously believed. Talks are taking place. This doesn’t change the fact that the 🇨🇭🇺🇸 bid (around £2,5 billion) is already in

#Chelsea (2/2): The consortium currently consists of three businessmen: Swiss billionaire Hansjörg Wyss, U.S. tycoons Todd Boehly and Jonathan Goldstein (a longtime Spurs fan). Raine Group will choose preffered bidder after the Friday deadline. Guess we‘ll know more next week.

Boyhood Chelsea fan Nick Candy has discussed joining forces with the consortium consisting of Todd Boehly, Jonathan Goldstein and Hansjorg Wyss - with final bids for the Premier League club expected on Friday.

- @SkySportsNews

🚨Sky Sports News understands talks have been initiated between Nick Candy and the consortium involving Todd Boehly, Jonathan Goldstein and Hansjorg Wyss. Some of the bidders for Chelsea are considering joining together to form a super consortium to buy the club. #CFC

There are strong suggestions, too, that Raine Group and the government, in their capacity monitoring the sale of a sanctioned community asset, will pursue the deal that they deem best to safeguard the club’s future, as opposed to merely going with the highest bidder (Athletic)

1 minute ago, JM7 said:

Boyhood Chelsea fan Nick Candy has discussed joining forces with the consortium consisting of Todd Boehly, Jonathan Goldstein and Hansjorg Wyss - with final bids for the Premier League club expected on Friday.

- @SkySportsNews

Nick Candy. Unless you have full say over these owners about the matters of our club....WHY. You are discussing the future of Chelsea with a Spuds fan.

I don't want Goldstein having any say on our future.