Based on recent experience I wont be surprised if we try to buy taglifico from leicester for 50 million plus (their chilwell replacement for 20m) in 2 years and to offload chilwell somewhere..

Hope I am wrong... 

10 minutes ago, comtrend said:

I don't rate Ben Chilwell at all, he has been below average in almost all the games I've seen him. He is not quick like the worldclass L/R backs that dominates in CL now, for 65mil he should be. 

We should be spending most of our money on Havertz & Declan Rice instead. Take a chance on Reguilon, who is quick, for under 1/3 of the price of Ben Chillwell.

I think we are still going for Havertz, Rice & a goalkeeper.

 

 

 

With the money being spent, got to expect Lampard to make a good go of the title challenge. He wanted Chilwell, and wanted the other signings. No excuses now. 

I really don't understand Frank's fixation with Chilwell, still we know what he's like with our defence,hasn't got a clue.

2 hours ago, big blue said:

You don't know that though, why not hold judgement until we get some confirmed figures. I think Chilwell has gone from overrated, to underrated. He is still a good player despite a poorish 6 months. 

The 18 months prior to that he was one of the best in the league. We would all prefer a cheaper option, but i thi k this transfer could end up like Pulisic, where there are plenty of complaints about the price, but in a very short time, that is all forgotten, when the perfomances are good.

That entire Leicester team was completely f**ked the entire time that Chilwell struggled, too - basically all of 2020. So although they had a pretty solid squad that should have finished top 4, Chelsea will be better this coming season so I’d like to think that he’ll perform better and play more like what we saw in the months prior to Leicester’s struggles.

15 minutes ago, acidicleo said:

Based on recent experience I wont be surprised if we try to buy taglifico from leicester for 50 million plus (their chilwell replacement for 20m) in 2 years and to offload chilwell somewhere..

Hope I am wrong... 

Oh yeah when Tagliafico is 30 years old? Yeah you’re already wrong.

8 minutes ago, mwblue10 said:

That entire Leicester team was completely f**ked the entire time that Chilwell struggled, too - basically all of 2020. So although they had a pretty solid squad that should have finished top 4, Chelsea will be better this coming season so I’d like to think that he’ll perform better and play more like what we saw in the months prior to Leicester’s struggles.

If you remember the opinions on chilwell in december, most fans wanted him. 

I can see why Lampard wants him, he is physically ahead of all other options in terms of speed, stamina, and strength. He has age on his side, and whilst he isnt particularly strong defensively or offensively, he does a decent job at either end with room to improve. 

My preference wouldve been Telles or Tagliafico, but neither are orivem in a top league, and both players do not match up to Chilwell physically, and when you consider the make up of the squad, maybe a more robust and pacy left back makes more sense. 

I just think its a shame there are fans on twitter giving him abuse, and putting negativity in his head before he has even kicked a ball with us. Surely its best to just get behind players, and if you are going to slag them off, keep that to forums like this rather than the players social media. Theres even been 1 or 2 death threats which is disgusting.

Chilwell is also pretty good in the air, he wins many of his aerial duals. This is an underrated quality people aren't considering. Also, Pep was apparently interested in bringing in Chilwell a year or so ago. I'm not going to lie, I watch very little of Leicester so therefore I don't watch much of Chilwell. If Pep is interested in Chilwell, then I am sure there's some good quality there.

Found this: https://lastwordonfootball.com/2019/02/17/why-ben-chilwell-has-been-so-impressive-this-season/

28 minutes ago, Bluesince66 said:

I really don't understand Frank's fixation with Chilwell, still we know what he's like with our defence,hasn't got a clue.

He clearly sees something us fans don't....we already have a LWB in Alonso and TBH there's also one in there somewhere with Emerson, trouble neither can provide that old fashioned stay at home LB style of play when we need them to. I hope he doesn't end up like another Drinkwater....I think the 'add on' should have been sending Danny back to Leicester for free if they pick up his wages.

 

Good signing if it happens. Especially if Emerson is offloaded to Inter for the rumoured €20m.

Can't see us signing Rice if we sign both Havertz and Chilly

7 minutes ago, TomCFC85 said:

Can't see us signing Rice if we sign both Havertz and Chilly

Personally I would much rather spend the Rice Money on the Leipzig CB or Gabriel from Lyon if we are buying Rice to play at CB. I think its a specialist position and can't see Rice being hugely successful playing there immediately, he will probably take a few years acclimatising to that role. Having Rice and Chilwell on the left side of that defense does not fill me with huge confidence. 

If Rice is being brought in to play DM with occasionally filling in at CB which is similar to what he does at West Ham I wouldn't mind investing 50m on him. 

Hopefully if he comes he proves to be the signing Frank appears to believe he will be and some of us doubt he can be.

Even if he does ot does not solve our defensive issues. We still need a commanding CB and a good lieutenant one to him. 

2 hours ago, enigma said:

With the money being spent, got to expect Lampard to make a good go of the title challenge. He wanted Chilwell, and wanted the other signings. No excuses now. 

Those players we are spending big on at least have to be good enough though. If we don't get that defence right, then we won't be competing for the title, that is for certain.

I don't understand how this hype for Chilwell started. Even when he was playing well at the start of the season, he wasn't that great. He just looks like one of those players that was going through a run of semi-decent form, we see that from a ton of players in the Premier League every season. He hasn't been able to replicate that form since though and has looked pretty rubbish for about half a year now, and the fact Leicester fans seem to be willing him to leave should be a big concern.

3 minutes ago, Scott Harris said:

Those players we are spending big on at least have to be good enough though. If we don't get that defence right, then we won't be competing for the title, that is for certain.

I don't understand how this hype for Chilwell started. Even when he was playing well at the start of the season, he wasn't that great. He just looks like one of those players that was going through a run of semi-decent form, we see that from a ton of players in the Premier League every season. He hasn't been able to replicate that form since though and has looked pretty rubbish for about half a year now, and the fact Leicester fans seem to be willing him to leave should be a big concern.

Some of them are happy for him to leave because of the fee they are getting and can spend on other positions. Not because they want to see him go and dont rate him.

Taken from the Leicester forum...

"If the Club manages to get 50+ million then that’s good business.

He was good going forward but poor defensively. Too many goals conceded 

down our left hand side. Week in week out."

I thought Chilwell was decent before the start of this year though...?

Is it too much to ask to get someone that can actually defend? 

 

Just now, jack_super_class said:

Some of them are happy for him to leave because of the fee they are getting and can spend on other positions. Not because they want to see him go and dont rate him.

From what I have seen, they have be highly critical of his performances for a long time now. I remember them being furious with him after the FA Cup match they lost against us.

44 minutes ago, rtwelch said:

Taken from the Leicester forum...

"If the Club manages to get 50+ million then that’s good business.

He was good going forward but poor defensively. Too many goals conceded 

down our left hand side. Week in week out."

I thought Chilwell was decent before the start of this year though...?

Is it too much to ask to get someone that can actually defend? 

 

Remember he is only 23. I can’t see it as well as he is but the club must see the room for growth.

The fact is this if one club full of the highest football  minds in the country think he is worth 80 million and our club full of more of the best football minds in the country think he is worth close enough to that to make a deal then clearly there is something to him to create this value.

You have to assume a high value player that our manager is desperate to land and the club are willing to back must  know more about him than a couple of fans on a Leicester forum. 
 

Again I agree I can’t see it, plenty of top options at a lower fee, but he is English, he is 23 and it seems we are collecting the next generation England squad and the club must see some good business in there, we generally don’t lose money so let’s hope for the best. 

These "highest football minds in the country" bought Kepa for 70mil+ and Drinkwater for 40m+. 

I would be very happy with Chilwell. He's had an inconsistent year but he's also showed his quality. He's exactly the type of player that will fit into our system, he's a great athlete, can run up and down that left flank all game long, he's young, prem proven and has room to get even better. He's also very good at winning aerially duels

 His pace will also be massively important to stretch the game as a lot of our attackers will be looking to come inside so width from the fullbacks will be important 

I'm not massively fussed on the price either, it's not my money and we quite clearly have a large budget to bring in new players

Lastly, there's not many other better options available. Most people had barely heard of Reguilon before he was linked to us, Tagliafico is obviously a good player but defending in the Dutch League is massively different to defending in the Premiership and at 27/28 wouldn't be a truly long term option. I don't really rate Alex Telles that highly, he has an incredible left foot but isn't the quickest player and I just feel if he was truly top class he would be playing at a higher level right now and Alaba would probably break our wage budget

 

These "highest football minds in the country" bought Kepa for 70mil+ and Drinkwater for 40m+. 

Exactly that...I rather keep Alonso and Emerson and go big for a world class CB to cover him replacing Alonso with Chilwell seems like losing Alonso goal threat but keeping his defensive weakness

1 hour ago, comtrend said:

These "highest football minds in the country" bought Kepa for 70mil+ and Drinkwater for 40m+. 

Can see logic in the kepa signing. He was seen as a young keeper with huge potential..Unfortunately it didnt work out..The huge price was due to the panic situation we ended up in thanks to snake..

Cant get my head round on spending that much on DW...

8 minutes ago, Brutos said:

Exactly that...I rather keep Alonso and Emerson and go big for a world class CB to cover him replacing Alonso with Chilwell seems like losing Alonso goal threat but keeping his defensive weakness

I think the rumour is we’re selling Emerson to Inter Milan. Can’t imagine we’d also sell Alonso as that would leave us with no cover at left back. What’s our situation with regards to youth team left backs? Surely Lampard would want cover if Chilwell is his first choice? 

15 hours ago, comtrend said:

These "highest football minds in the country" bought Kepa for 70mil+ and Drinkwater for 40m+. 

Drinkwater just won the league with Leicester and kepa was seen as Spain’s next number 1, it wasn’t based on nothing. 
 

Plus drinkwater was solely a marina signing, we have Petr advising her now and it’s frank that wants Chilwell, no guarantee any signing goes right but the point is it’s based on something not just hopes and dreams. 

Edited August 16, 20205 yr by SFL82